Q & A Panel with Voddie

Tell me what's on your mind as a result of the time we've spent here so far. Tonight, For me, I'm just encouraged by you know, as I was listening to you bestor Mike, I was thinking about you know, you would say, you know, we're gonna hear this, We're gonna hear that, we just heard this. I'm just I'm thinking about the flow of this weekend and encouraged by the fact that God has not left us wandering aimlessly in the dark, but we have clear instructions. You know, what marriage is, why He gave it, What husband's roles are, what women's roles are, what parents' roles are, what children's roles are. And I'm struck by that. And then on the other hand, I'm struck by the fact that, in our attempt as a culture to be sophisticated, that we desperately need the basics. You know, we really do, because in all of our sophistication, we've sophisticated ourselves right out of the most basic understanding of the most basic fundamental relationships that there are. Okay, let's move to some of the questions that you've submitted. What I'm doing with your questions is is I'm prioritizing them one around the content of this conference family. So there's some questions that are not about family. We may get to those, but they're gonna have a lower priority. I'm also used prioritizing the questions that tie to the topics that we're discussed tonight. So there's some questions about the women's roles. We may get to those tonight, but if we don't, I'd like to save those for tomorrow as we're going to discuss that in more in more detail. So first question Jen and I let any one of you answer, is what is a good Christian response to people who make fun of your family following God's design? So who would like to jump in and give encouragement to one who a good Christian response? Well? What are they good? What are they good? No? Yeah? Good? A good Christian response? Good Christian response is again a character of Christ and the Word of God. You know, something that would something that would bring to bear, you know, both the character of Christ and the Word of God, and to respond to them in a way that points them to their own need, you know, by pointing to the fact that we don't trust ourselves, that we don't think so highly of ourselves. You know that that we think we can figure it out on our own, that we recognize that we're sinful people and that we're in desperate need of instruction, which would also lead them to sort of rustle with that same truth. So did did you hear what he did? He's a pastor. He turns into a preaching opportunity, and and that's I want to encourage you in that it's an opportunity to just talk about why you are the way you are. So depending on what said to you, depending on what said to you, I would respond with, you know, so they make fun of I don't know how my wife dresses. You know what my response would be, well, I get it, I get it. It's kind of out there. And what's happened in my wife's life is is she's come to understand femininity and and who and who God has created her to be. That it is driven to her to have a desire to dress in a way that's more feminine, because in our culture that's become melded and some a response would be an acknowledgement of you know what, thirteen years ago i'd have been I'd have been laughing at you more than or at me more than you're laughing at me because I hated God. Now I wouldn't need to say that to somebody. But the dialogue is to show them that they're mocking God when they mock godly structure. And the desire is to show them they're mocking God when they're mocking godly structure. And I think for me always it is I get it, been there, done that thought, just like you, and then try to point him to who God is and then how to access God through Jesus Christ or righteousness with God. So I think the context of the people making fun is could be helpful. And my response is that somebody who's making fun of you as your wife down the street, I don't know that there's anything we can do to have that. If it's somebody that you can have an extended response to, then we can. We can take time to explain to them just why we do what we do. And that's really what for anyone that would do that, that would be the ideal thing is explain to him why we do what we do. It's because of who Christ is in our lives, because of what the Word of God says, and hopefully bring the Gospel to bear on their lives during that conversation. You know, I again, if it's somebody walking down the street and they're making fun of your family, what are you gonna do? Stick your tongue out at him. I think I've got one last thing for us to be reminded of what we might do. But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you. So be mindful of that and of those people as well. All right, here's a question regarding uh pastor Mike. If you'l begin here regarding submitting your employer, what is your view of working in an environment where you're not free to talk about God? Example, government employment. You're where you're not supposed to talk to clients about God. Yet God has raised me to a position of authority where I can affect some changes in policy and practice. So so I tend to give answers that are that are not very well received sometimes. But just on the on the face of the question, what do I do if I'm in a place then I'm not allowed to talk about Christ like a public school. Maybe, well, I would take us back to the Book of Acts to Peter and John when the authorities in their lives said, you will not Jesus anymore. So their answer was, Hey, you go ahead and judge whether I should listen to you or listen to God. And I know that's a bold statement. I'm not in that position. I don't. But and by God's grace, in God's providence, someday preaching the scriptures on God's design for marriage or sexuality or homosexuality, that all becomes hate speech. Then I'll be able to be told not to do that. And when we come to that passage, we will preach it, and then the consequences may be suffered. So it might be it's easy for you to say you're in a position you get to talk about God. I don't see what's the goal of our job. What we need to provide for our families. There's no question where men we are required to do that. But but what are we going to sacrifice in that provision for our family? And I'll go back to something I said during the sermon. Maybe the job you have and you're a place you can affect some change you got a decent an income, and you got a nice home and a few couple of cars, and and maybe you have to go to a job that pays you far less and you have to live into a two bedroom apartment and drive one vehicle, so that you can blame proclaim the gospel. But I want to challenge us with this concept of what really matters at the end of the day, Your Kingdom, come, your will be done, Come in me and through me. And and so I would say, you continue to preach the gospel. You, Hey, you work your job. Donnie goes through this lots. You work your job. You give them their eight or ten hours or whatever it is. And if it's if it's getting in the way of your job, you can't preach the gospel in the middle of doing your your job on the line. But hey, at a break in the break room at a lunch after work, as you're walking out to the parking lot, if you can't talk about Christ, then I'd find it job that you could. Yeah. The only thing I would add to that is just kind of based on what I heard in the question. Remember also that there's a difference between you going about your business as you always have and you know, somebody coming to you and requiring something of you that is unacceptable and you having contracted with someone knowing full well that those limitations were there, because then your integrity is at stake. So if you content, if you contracted with someone knowing that this job was going to have those requirements, and then you come in later and undermine those requirements, well now you're not letting your yes be yes and your no be no. So make sure that you're on the right side of this thing before you decide how you going to respond. And the second thing that I would add is you have to know what your rights are because in the overwhelming majority of cases, when somebody tells you you can't talk about ABC or X y Z, it's not actually true. And there's a time and a place for us to, you know, respectfully assert our rights and pursue our rights in that regard. You know Paul did that when he you know, asserted his rights as a Roman citizen and appealed to authority in a respectful way. So I would just I would just add those two things. One, you know, understand how you contracted. You know that that that position before you decide. You know, what it is you're going to do, and two have an idea of what your rights are so that you can then make appeals. I can't at this statement up that I'm going to make, but I suspect it's true. Okay, I can't back it up, but I suspect it's true. More people who call themselves Christians are silent in the workplace because they think their boss wouldn't like it, then Christians who are in trouble with their boss for speaking up for christ. I can't back that up, but I suspect that's true. So you know, boy, be Christ's ambassador. If it becomes an issue, then you then you've got an issue. But I think we worry about some of these issues before they're even there. So hell't did anything that this was addressed to vote. So I'm going to have you start. If a Christian man and woman are married and he spends many years at attaining a PhD, is it a masculine masculinization of the wife's role to work to put him through even if they have no children? Get know that. I think so married couple, he's going to school, he's working for many years to achieve he's going to school and he's doing his thing. Is it a masculinization of the wife's role to help put him through school? Not necessarily? Okay, you can stop of that. Yeah, that's my answer, all right, not necessary. Earning money is not masculine per se. Right, there's a lot of ways to earn money that don't necessarily have to be masculine. And there's a lot of ways that you can earn money without forsaking your home. So the question seems to imply that that earning money in and of itself is masculine. Or you know, your family being configured in a certain way for a certain amount of time. You know, it's like like like the woman whose husband is deployed, you know, since they're sort of binding your nails because it's like, well, my husband has certain duties, but he's in Araq right now. So do I let those things fall and my family decay? Or do I sin against God? Well that's ridiculous, Okay, that's the fallacy of the excluded middle. Right that that, again, we have to be reasonable when we think about these things, and it's completely unreasonable to argue that earning an income is in and of itself a masculine or you know, or defeminizing thing so so so, No, it's not anybody else. All right, this is a question from a husband. I realize tonight I've allowed my house to run much different from what the husband's authority is. What I've heard tonight. How do I change things? I think? I think I was asking where do I start? How do I do it? That's that's a broad question. You can go lots to places. But I would start with where we started in the message tonight. I would start with, first of all, are you right with Christ? Are you right with God through Jesus Christ? Is He your Lord and Savior? Is God your ultimate authority? Start there, because if you're not saying, you're just gonna spin your wheels and it's not gonna work. I mean this, this, this thought of God's designed for family is gonna work. Hey, It'll bring some benefit to non believers, for sure, but it's gonna it's gonna blow up, just like everything else. So I'd start there, and then I would then I would go to the next step. Am I under Am I a man under authority? Am I a man under authority? And then I would begin to lead my family and patiently, lovingly. You know this, this concept of leadership, it requires patience and yet it requires fortitude. I am resolved to lead my family, and I'm resolved to do that patiently. But I'm resolved to lead my family. So it starts with am I right with God? Am I a man under under authority? And then what does God's word? What does my authority tell me I must do? So? Do you catechize your children? Do you do Bible studies with your wife? Do you talk to your wife? Do you know your wife? Are you better with your wife? If you start? You ever seek your children's forgiveness, your wife's forgiveness, or you're too proud to do that so much? But I'd start with who am I in Christ? That's where you gotta start. My answer has an awful lot of assumptions that go along with it, But I would tell you to go see the pastor or elders of your church and start working diligently with them to figure out what that looks like in your house. And I think one thing that I would encourage, one thing that I always try to encourage, is to stop thinking about leadership in the home differently than you think about leadership elsewhere, because the fact of the matter is men ask questions about the issue of leadership in their home that they would be embarrassed to ask about leadership in other places. For example, you know, guys, will you know how can I be the spiritual leader in my home if my wife spiritually is further along than I am. And you ask the same guy about Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson's second year in the NFL quarterbacks of Seattle Seahawks. You asked that same guy do you think Russell Wilson walked into the huddle his first day and said, you know, guys, I haven't been here as long as any of you, So you want to call the place that same man would go, No way, he has to do his job just because he hasn't been there as long as you got. Or a guy who gets promoted at work, does he walk in and say, well, you know, I don't think I should take this promotion because I don't know the job of every person under my leadership, and therefore I cant no. You don't do that. You find out whatever you have to find out in order to do your job better, and you lead sometimes by delegating and taking advantage of the skills that people have that are better than your skills. And I just find it amazing that men who just intuitively know how to answer these questions in other spheres get completely paralyzed when it comes to the same concept applied to the home. Every guy in this room knows how to answer that question, if it's about his work or about his sports. Every guy in this room he knows how to answer that question. And he knows, I'm gonna go get a book on sales. I'm gonna go get a both on leadership. I'm gonna go get a book on this. You know I'm gonna go get back. I mean, he knows you. Every man in this room knows that intuitively, because as men, we've been conditioned to think about our leadership position in those areas. But as men, we've also been conditioned to be feminists, and we are alone to being leaders in the home, and so just the mere thought of it makes us shut off our brain to everything that we know intuitively about what it means to be a leader, and we ask questions that quite frankly, we would be embarrassed to ask about sports or work. If you can't say Amen, you say ouch because you know it's true. And you know it's true well, and and that goes with our children and our wives both and and and I know you're saying that, but think about some of the things we ask on what should we do with our kids. Hey, if you're coaching a team and you're in and and and one of the players says, no, I'm not gonna run these drills. I'm not gonna do what you're asking me. Okay, Well, then you know what you're gonna You're gonna have a consequence with our kid. What do we do he just isn't acting right. What does the Bible tell us to do? Give him the ride to train the foolishes out of them. It's pretty simple. I mean, it's not that's not a hard question. But we have such idalization of our children, and we've been we've been culture culturized to say spanking is bad and harmful. If my dad did anything right. When I was a kid, he whooped me, and when he was around, I acted right. Now I was a center and it was but when he was around, I acted right. Yeah. I don't. I don't think we realize. I just I say that because I don't think we realize how feminized we are. And and I use that as just one illustration of how you know, something that's obvious and intuitive to us in every other area mystifies us in this one area and this one area only. And that's just because we've had it hammered into us by our culture, and we're just absolutely opposed to male headship in the home, and so we just we just we freak out and we get paralyzed. And it's not a woman probably it's our problems. Don't expect it's don't expect it's gonna go well because because your family has been trained by you to not take your leadership. It's gonna go great because you're doing what God's design is. But it's not gonna seem great for a while, maybe for a long time. Okay, Uh, this Pastor Bocca, we brought this uh topic, spoke out on this topic in your talk. Could you expand on the issue of masculinized girls? Can I expand on the issue of masculinized girls? Yes, we we we raise our girls exactly the same way that we raise our boys, and the thought doesn't even enter our mind that there's anything wrong with that, we act as though our children are not moving toward marriage and family. And we also act as though being a husband, being a wife, being a father, being a mother is something that's completely automatic and intuitive and that it doesn't have to be taught. You know, we've sort of bought into this, this real, really this sort of Darwinian idea. It's a Darwinian notion that women, because they're women, are just innately able to be mothers. That's a Darwinian notion. There's skills that have to be learned when it comes to being a wife and being a mother and taking care of a home and you know, taking care of children and raising children. There's skills that there are skills that need to be learned. And so as we're preparing our children, we ought to be keeping that in mind, but we absolutely are not. And so we're raising young women who have absolutely no sense of awareness about the complementarity between men and women. We raise our children to compete with one another, you know, boys against girls, and we raise boys to see girls as adversaries. We raise girls to see boys as adversaries, you know, as competitors for you know, the same goal, the same prize or whatever, and we consider it, we consider it to be an advance to our culture. When girls are playing tackle football. So you're a lot smarter than I, you know, So to me, we masculinize our girls by well, in my house, I'm working with my family because my daughter's three, and we've raised every one of our children and run across the living room and four pillows at them and knock them down. Yeah, she's gonna become a little football player. Right, it's not a good idea. Let's stop turning her into a little boy. Yeah, but it goes, it goes even deeper. I know you're just smarter, you know, were fundamentally Yeah that that you know that that too. But even when they're chill, even when they're small, just teaching our boys that girls are weaker vessels and that they are to be cherished in character. My twenty six year old daughter seven whatever you are these days, sits over there and shakes her head because I raised her in a way that I did exactly what we're talking about. She didn't believes she's a weaker vessel. She is woman here, a roar and so, and so she can't she can't have a relationship with a man, so not a godly man, because she's been raised and trained that she's the same as a man, even though for the last fourteen years of my life I've been trying to tell her a different message. And only as she would turn and fall in the finished work of Jesus Christ, well she'd get that. But she's been trained to be think that way, voting, that's exactly it. She's over there shaking her head. You know, I am woman, and you know here, look I picked on my daughter. Right, Look, y'all, ladies, consider it. Consider that you don't have something welling up in you saying I can do anything a man can do. I can bring home the big end, fry it up in a pan. I mean, that's that's what I grew up with, right, That's what y'all grew up with. I can. I am warm man. I mean, it's all about you know, we chuckle, but it's it's what I shepherd every day with some of the ladies in her church, especially the single ladies. And now we have them on the front line in combat. You know, you can be soldiers, and we're having to train male soldiers not to respond to injured women because innately when you put a woman in a unit with men, they don't respond the same way when a woman goes down as they do when a man goes down. They just don't. And so what do you do when you have to when you put women in the combat union unit? You have to train and beat that out of men, that which God put into them. You have to train it out of them and beat it out of them so that they don't respond the way God designed them to respond. It's unnatural, it's animalistic, it's it's it's it's it's yeah, it's terrible, you know, but but that's what we're doing, you know. And and now women sort of see having a child as you know, kind of a feather in the cap type thing. So it's this, you know, I'm gonna go and do this, I'm gonna go and do that, I'm gonna go and do the other. And then you know, all of a sudden later on in life, they realize, you know, I've got all these accomplishments, but maybe there's something in me that kind of wants to job. So they have a child as sort of an accomplishment to say, okay, I checked that off too, which is a horrible way to think about the role of you know, parenting children, and the children become trophies and you know, just you know, a sign that yes, I'm still you know, a woman that you know whatever. So it's that there are myriad consequences of this, you know, throughout our culture, throughout the church, and it's just because yeah, we'll be feminized in our mindset. Okay, here's a question worthy of being addressed in a book. If a young woman is not married, maybe if a woman, If a young woman is not married, who should lead her? A young woman is not married? How young is the woman? A young adult woman? I well, her husband, her father? So what's guy's design for family that my daughter would leave or my son would leave when they go cleave, they'll leave their father and mother and cleave to their wife or their husband. So who should lead her? Her father? Now, again, there's lots of there's lots of different circumstances, but just based on that question, it's pretty simple. Her father should lead her. Now if it's a I see, there's so many it's a believing girl with an unbelieving father. Still that still that protections Therefore, that's God's God's grace in her life if she's part of a local assembly where there's elders that can speak into her life from a spiritual perspective. So, but just at face value, their father, Okay, let me ask anything bad to that this. Uh, well, by the handwriting, I presume this is a question from a child, but that would could be presumptuous on my part. Uh, how is God there before time began? Time is a created construct, so so time time time is not a thing right. Time is a form of measurement. So because time is a created construct, you need someone outside of time to create it. And God is the one out side of time who created that construct and that measurement. And in the six days of Creation, he even gives us the means by which we measure time. So he gives us the moon to measure months, he gives us the sun to measure days and years, and then he gives us the actual creation week in order to measure the week, this covenantal concept. So yeah, time is a creative construct. God's the one who creates it, and he also created all of the things out there that give us the actual measurements of time itself. Anybody else, This is a question from a wife. It appears, as I have more understanding of the biblical responsibilities of a husband, what is the wife's role in holding him accountable? To that? You who wrote that quote, No, I was going to somewhat say if you wrote that question, probably none if that's how you're thinking, because boy, be careful with that. So I would encourage you to be praying for your husband. Wait till tomorrow's talk, and then you'll have plenty that you can work on. And that one Peter three one through four that if your husband's not obeying the word that with a quiet and gentle spirit, without a word, by your conduct, you might win him. So it's really not your job to hold him accountable. As I'm hearing that word mass, we have one looking for a direction on what age would you allow your child to make their own decisions whether or not they would tend church, whether or not they would want to attend church. Pastor says, that's an easy one. So I get it, and so I think it's pretty simple. As long as they live in your house under your provision, they do whatever it is you say. So if they're living in their house, the father makes a decision, they elect to move out and not be under provision and protection. Then they can decide to do whatever they want, but they should know that that's probably very unprofitable for them. Question anybody asked, so you know what the reality is? We all struggle with that. You know, it was we kind of laughing joke because we've been down this path in our church a number of times already in our own lives, in the lives of these three men up here sitting here where we have to work through. And you know what, that is such a simple answer. But I'm not that smart because I couldn't figure that out, apparently, But it's really simple. Provision, protection, priesting, and prophesying. Those peas that vote, he writes about, those are all part of it. So you don't get one without the other. You don't get my provision and my protection without my priesting and my prophecy. You don't get that they all come together. And as long as you're willing to live in my home under that structure, then you can be. My daughter doesn't live with me, that's by her choice, and she's outside of my provision, so she doesn't now receive provision, she's not under my protection. She shouldn't have rules. I still give her some counsel, but she can take it or leave it. She doesn't come to church. When she lived in my home, she did all of those things. These are the rules of the house. I think there's also an issue of you know, our children when they There's also the issue of church membership that comes to play there as well, because if our children come to a place of making a profession of faith and becoming members in the church, then they have another layer of accountability as well, and another another source to whom they must answer when it comes to those kinds of things. So I think it's important to recognize that too. All right, next question, my church does not teach what I've heard tonight from Genesis or the husband's authority. What do I do? I'm not gonna have this question. Pastor Vode's going to handle this question because I really want to hear the answer. Yeah, I always. I always worry about that when people say that their church doesn't teach something, because nine times out of ten, they're not telling the truth and they may not even know it. They may they might even know that they're not telling the truth. For example, there have been a number of instances where I've preached sermons that people came to me and they go, oh, I love that sermon where you talked about ABC and X, Y and Z, And I'm sitting there going, I didn't do that. Yeah, I was like elemental p all day long, and you know, and I'm maybe they but they heard something different, you know than what I was, than what I was saying. We would always hear accurately, and we don't always hear what's being said. Uh. And there are a lot of things that churches teach over time. So you could come to our church, for example, for a long stretch we just got through teaching the Book of Revelation. We just finished Revelation two weeks ago. There would have been long stretches that you came to our church and didn't hear a lot of stuff that you heard tonight. Does that mean that we don't teach it? Absolutely not, you know. So number one, you we got to be careful with assuming that we hear everything. And number two, we got to be careful with, you know, taking taking what it is that that we're hearing over a short period of time and assuming that that means the church does or doesn't teach this or that. So my encouragement would be, find out what it is that your church teaches and believes on this on these issues, and engage with them as brothers and sisters in the Lord. You're not a consumer, You're a covenant member. And there's a difference. A consumer gets dissatisfied, gets up, walks away. A covenant member recognizing, recognizes that he or she belongs to that body and will suffer long with that body and endure with that body. So go and find out what it is that is believed on these issues, you know, find out why, you know, try to hear people out, assume the best, show respect. You know that that's the way that that's the way that I would approach that. So so I would say amen to everything he just said, and I would. And the reason I was somewhat Look, here's the thing. If you're there's there's a there's a true out there, and there's a true church that some of those summer churches are more pure than other churches. It's true and the purity of the church that I pastor, we have grown in purity greatly over the five years six years I've been there. And because Semper Reformata We're always reforming. Christians are always reforming, and churches are always reforming. So if you're at a true church, even if the church is not that pure, your obligation is to stay and to work towards reformation. Now, Martin Luther worked towards reformation for a long time and then he was basically excommunicated, but he didn't leave. He tried to reform the church. Look, there is no perfect church. I assure you that Vodie's church is doing something impurely. I assure you that we are. If we knew what that was, we would change it today. But we won't know until we find out. And we will always be reforming. Because there is no perfect church. We are being sack just like we look at Ephesian fives. Christ is purifying his church. So you stay. Now, if your church, you go talk to your pastor, and you stay and you talk and you talk through and at the end of and I don't want to put time on it because and everybody wants to hold me that time some period of time that pastor elder says, no, we do not believe in male headship in the home. And you've stayed and you've talked that through and they're unwilling to change, then it's not the true church, okay, cause the true church won't say that. Do we understand what I'm saying? And it requires it requires patience, see, because everybody, every pastor's had people leave their church. And it's it's very challenging because it is true. We are we are a local assembly. The Apostle Paul writes the New Testament, all these local assemblies, there are local assemblers that couldn't go from place to place to place, and so he says, work, endeavor, stress, strain on, endeavor for unity in the spirit, in the bond of speek, peace with all long suffering. You don't just run at the first sign of trouble because you might not like what has preached tonight. And if this were your church, you might want to leave. And if you were part of this was a church and you were there, you would need If you're a believer, you should come to the elders of this church, and you say, elders, here's what you said. I don't believe that to be true. Here's the scripture that I think supports what I believe. Can we discuss that and then we would discuss that. But we've had having it. I mean, I was part of my first tagged conversation on Facebook today and some people maybe not know what I mean, and I don't know what I mean, but I was part of a ten person invite groups. There's a conversation about just this topic. And I put one one whatever that is post on there, one or maybe two keV two. There must have been one hundred and thirty posts within twenty five minutes. It was, and it was ten guys invited to start with. Because you know what we have been taught, we can leave a church whenever you want to leave a church, and there's plenty of good reasons to leave a church, and it is not true. And look, we got the smallest church in town, so nobody's gonna We're not gonna grow me talking like this. But when people come to our door. We have somebody who's come to our church here recently to Amend's Bible study the church, and I know he goes to a church and we will have a discussion right along these lines. And if we discern and he discerns by and maybe he's been there forty two years, so who knows, right, he maybe he's done all we've talked about doing. But if it's the true church, you stay and you purify it. If it's not, then you leave. But only if it's not the true church. And that's troubling. I get it. It's hard, you know, and you know what, then there's grace. And if you've done that and you're a believer, you're not out of the kingdom. But I would encourage you to go back and get right with that church that you left, whether you go back there or not. Okay, this is our last question, our topic, I guess for the evening. You three men, is there a question you wish would have been asked? Or do you have a question you'd like to ask the other man sitting beside you. Is that a submitted question? That's your question, isn't it? Yeah, that's my that's my question. Yes, that's the question you wanted to ask. Yes, question. The answer could be no, I have not, I have, I have, I probably have five hundred questions I would like to ask pastor vote, but it's probably not the forum for that. I mean, you get one yeah, one shot. I just gave you one shot. Yeah, but this one need this needs to be in private. I think I'm just I'm basically kidding. Let's see one question I could ask anybuddy, Well I don't. I don't have one. Anybody else you can have some time. Yeah, it's okay, you're not coming back tomorrow. You gotta give us a warning for that. Man. You know, we're here to answer questions, and then you ask us what question that we would ask and stuff that's like, that's wrong. What question you wish would have been asked? What question I wish would have been asked? All right, I got one. Can I be a Christian and disagree with what was preached tonight about male headship? Yeah, that would have been a good one, I would say, yeah, I would, or or you said we had to answer him, or I'm yeah, yeah yeah, or or probably something about because it's such a big issue right now, the whole same sex marriage debate and how it relates to you know, these questions of marriage and its origins and yeah, yeah yeah, and marriage and its origins and and and that sort of thing, and you know, the definitions and things like that. Those Yeah, those would have been Yeah, those would have been good. So lastly, would anybody like to offer any responses? To the last two questions that were made. Pastor vote. Can I be a Christian and disagree with male headship? Hey? Would you like to give me more about that? Listen, the longer I walk with the Lord, the more things I realize I've been wrong about. When I realized that I was wrong about those things, I don't realize that I wasn't a Christian. I just realized that I was a Christian who was wrong about X. So as long as we're not talking about the Gospel, as long as we're not talking about Christ and his finished work and substitutionary atonement, the list of things about which we can be wrong and still be Christian is enormous. And the longer we walk with God, the more the more we realize that. You know, we don't even realize how much grace we received when we were saved, you know, and you look back, you know, did twenty thirty fifty years later should the Lord terry and you just go, Wow, I was messed up and yet he saved me. You know, It's just mercy, it's just grace. And especially when we're talking about something like this, where the culture has been so pervasive in blinding our eyes and changing the way we think and the church you know, and again I use that term loosely when you when you look at the image of the Church in the culture, whether you're watching on television or in the movies, or you know, in in you know, situations, you know in public, or you know, things are upheld. I mean, feminism just reigns, and the idea of feminism and evangelical feminism is really prominent. So it's really easy for a Christian to kind of, you know, sort of go along suppressing this idea and even feeling embarrassed about this idea. So yeah, you can. You can. You can be a Christian and be wrong about this, or at least you could have before tonight. Right, So I'm glad you said the last part because what I want I want people to walk away with is that that's I agree one hundred percent, and your mind will be transformed a lot or a little tonight. It just will be because the word of God will do that. And if you walk out in disagreement with God's word in the same place you were when you walked in, then you really ought to examine yourself, because that's having a lore a savior without a Lord, and that's not possible. He is King Jesus, he is God. It is his design. Dry eyes. I got something. I just got something. Good. Suffer long. We're almost done. Had to repeat Vote's question if I could remember it or or summarize it. The answer the answer anybody ever a response to Vote's question regarding I don't even know what you said. Oh about the same sex marriage debate, the relationship between that and the fall and the curses and all these other things that we talked about that yeah seven seven, yeah, all right. Our time is upon us. Uh, Pastor Bakham, Will you give us a closing prayer and we'll dismiss or. Thank you for your kindness and your mercy toward us, for your patience and lung suffering towards us. Thank you for the ways in which you condescend to us, the ways in which you teach us and instruct us and remind us and draw us along, the ways that you shepherd us, the ways that you guide us and instruct us, the ways that you correct us, the ways that you transform us and conform us to the very image of Christ. We thank you for using to night to do just that in our lives. Grant by your grace, that your word might have its way in Christ's name. Amen.