Part 1: Your Greater Is Coming Special

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He is lining up the breaks you need. 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.120 He is pushing back forces of darkness. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.120 If you will keep moving forward in faith, you are 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:55.000 going to come in to unuse your faith breakthroughs, healing victories, 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.520 things that you couldn't make happen on your own. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:01.320 You have to stir up your praise, stir up your fat, 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.760 start speaking victory over your life. Start thanking God that 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.560 he's fighting your battles, that this too shall pass, that 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:19.520 greater is coming. Hey, everyone, great to have you with 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.160 us today. It's got a great hour lined up today. 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.960 Got some of my friends and mister Nick Nilson with 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.880 us hosting the program. But guys, I got a new 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:31.440 book out. Walk got Beautiful Victoria by myself. You can't 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.560 miss you in the Beautiful Yellow mentioned my book. But 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.600 so my new book, y'all, is called Your Greater Is Coming, 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.880 Discover the Path to your bigger, better and brighter future. 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.080 I'm excited about the book because I know, you know, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.040 we go through tough times. We think we kind of 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.280 get stuck there. But now you wouldn't be alive unless 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.880 God had something amazing in front of you. So hope 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.680 you'll stay tuned in with us. You can pick up 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.400 a copy as well. But Pastor Nick Nilson, thanks for 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.040 always hosting and be a part of of our Flakewood fans. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.800 Yeah, I'm excited to talk about the idea of this 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.280 book and how relevant and how necessary it is. I 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.440 know we have some of our team here where we've 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.000 explored the book. We're excited to discuss it. Yeah, But 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.120 I mean, in general, I feel like it's a relevant 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:11.120 book and it's timely. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.000 But what main thought. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.760 What spurgs you inspired you to write it? 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.280 What's the main idea of the book? 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.079 You know, Nick, The main thought is there's we all 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.680 go through disappointments, negative things happen. Man, the pandemic hit, 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.720 and you know, just life happens. And it seems like 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.120 at times we can kind of just put our faith 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.640 on hold and let me just make it through and okay, 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.600 I'll just survive. But there's a scripture that I based 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.560 the book off on in Psalm seventy one. It says 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.960 God allowed you to suffer much hardship, but he will 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.240 restore you to greater honor. Now, I think the principle 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.080 is God doesn't say that we won't go through things, 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.480 you know, some suffering, some hardships, some bad breaks, some disappointments, 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.640 but we can't stop there. The promise is I'm going 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.840 to bring you out better. I've got greater honor coming, 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:02.360 greater health, greater friendships, greater you know, just greater in general. 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.480 And so the thought is that we're not going to 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.680 see the greater if our mind's not in the right position, 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.360 if we're thinking, well, why me, why did this happen, 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.680 Why did this person leave, or you know, why did 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.480 this door close? Well that's what causes us to get stuck. 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.880 But I don't believe that God will let a problem 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.120 a difficulty of circumstances come into your life unless he 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.680 knows how to turn it around to greater, unless he's 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.440 going to bring it out greater. The scripture talks about 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.839 that God will make the enemy pay for bringing the trouble. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.840 So my thought with this book is, let's get our 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.560 hopes up, let's believe that greater is coming. Yeah, I 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.800 went through the pandemic. Yeah maybe it slowed me down. 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.600 Maybe some of these other things have happened, But how 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.039 do we know that God's not using that to launch 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.400 us into new levels? And so I talk about I'm 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.360 reading here in the back, start believing again, start dreaming again, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.400 start making plans for what's in your heart, because I 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.800 really believe that our you know, our mindset. I was 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.080 going to say our lack of faith, and everybody has faith, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.280 but sometimes we're just living in a defeated mentality or 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.200 even just a maintaining mentality. And I believe in being content. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.120 Every season is not a growing season. But I don't 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.240 believe that you have to be satisfied and maybe just 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.840 accept where you are is always where you're always going 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.480 to be. Because maybe I didn't have a good childhood, 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.520 or I had a bad break at work, or I 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.640 talked to somebody yesterday and after fourteen years they lost 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.039 their job and it was a difficult time. It was 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.320 six months where it was real, but you know what happened. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.400 God opened up a better door that was close to 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.640 their work. Is on the radio program yesterday and I thought, 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.720 you know what, that's the way God is, and that's 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.120 the message that your greater is coming. This book will 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.320 help you get your mind going in the right direction 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.400 so you can receive the greater awesome. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:44.479 What do you feel like? 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.719 You know, I was thinking about this and I love 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.880 the way this I love this greater sign right here, 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.520 because in math, you're either greater then or less then, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.680 and greater then is really it's an enlarging place. You know, 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.680 someone may be saying, well, I don't feel greater then, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.960 But if you go through difficulties the right way, you 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.840 will come to a spacious place, a larger place in 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.000 who you are and your experience and even how you 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.920 can help other people. So I think that the difference 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.000 between if we stay in discouragement or we rise above 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.560 it is what we're expecting, what we're thinking about our life, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.159 what we're thinking about our God. And so I love 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.560 this book because it gives you a mentality of my 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.719 God is greater than this situation. I'm not going to 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.520 go to the less than sign. I'm going to the 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.720 greater than Sign. Yeah, it hurts, it's painful, you know, 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.679 and sometimes we sit here and it's easier said than done. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.640 But when we begin with this foundation, somehow we can 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.480 get to that greater place more quickly and not get stuck. 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.479 And that's what I love about this book. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.640 And so I think that it would be nice to 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.440 say that in life we'll never have challenges and never 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.240 have problems, and we're not looking for challenges and problems. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.839 I mean, listen, I've been through some and I don't 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:01.480 like it, and I don't really want. 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:02.960 To go to those places. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.200 But through this book, I see that I can be 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.960 pointed to the greater Sign instead of the less than sign. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.800 I love that victory. It reminds me of that scripture 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.920 it says that God brought the Israelites out of Egypt. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.080 They went through not getting exactly right, but they went 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.640 through great affliction, but he brought them to a place 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.360 of great abundance. It's exactly what you're saying. You come 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.920 through those difficulties, but you know on the other side 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.560 is greater. It's greater abundance, greater victories, greater relationships. So 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.320 you know, again, getting our getting our mindset that in 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.720 that place is what allows God to bring it to past. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.400 Yes, Clayton, you have a question for Joel. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.880 Yeah, Joel, in your chapter the shaking is for shifting, 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.880 you talked about the COVID pandemic, which was obviously devastating 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.440 and disruptive for all of our lives. I know that 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.600 was a season where God began to shift some things 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.320 in my own life. What would you say, are some 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.280 ways that through COVID, you know, we were able to 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.440 positively look for greater steps in looking for God during 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:01.960 that season. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.840 Yeah, that's a great question, Clayton, And I love that 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.760 thought the shaking is for shifting, because you're right, you know, 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.640 COVID shook up the whole world, which you ever thought 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.000 the world would shut down like that. It's like, what 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.320 is God doing? But you look in the scripture many 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.840 times when there was a shaking, it was for God 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.160 to position people to move forward into their destinies. And 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.440 so I think one thing just for me personally, for 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.960 us personally. You know, it helps to recognize what the 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.800 right priorities are, helps us to refocus, and I think 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.720 that's what God does sometimes. Again, I don't think God 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.439 sends all the storms, but I do believe He can 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.920 bring good out of it. And so it helped us 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.720 to realize I think in general, in just the world 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.360 that you know, it's not all about work, it's not 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.480 all about just achieving. It is about our family and 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.600 our purpose and what we're doing. So I think it's 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.120 just important when you go through shakings in your own 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.800 life to recognize that God is up to something. Again, 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.560 like we were talking about, feel well, but again I 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:06.000 think about in the scripture, it was the Disciples were 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:10.360 in I believe it was in Jerusalem, but there was 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.760 so much persecution. It says they were pushed out to Samaria. Well, 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.200 if you read it, it says in Samaria that's when 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.160 everything blossomed, That's what. But it took the shaking to 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.440 get them out of where they were. And you know what, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.520 the shakings may not always be comfortable, but God, again, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.400 I believe it's leading to the greater and so that's 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.600 one of the points there is just you know, these 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.240 things that we go through in life. I know it's difficult, 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:36.280 but you have to have that attitude of faith that God, 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.280 you're still in control. God. I trust you God. There's 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.400 some shaking going on in my life. Well maybe, like 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.240 I mentioned earlier that one lady she was lost her job. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.920 There was a shaking, but you know what, it opened 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.440 up a better door. I believe that's the way God is. 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.360 I think about it. Even says about Job. You know, 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:54.880 we all know the story of Job, and he went 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.960 through all these difficulties and it was so unfair. But 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.760 it said at the end, after this Job came out 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.400 with twice the cattle, twice the sheep. And it said 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.480 he went on to live one hundred and forty years, 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.080 to see his children and grandchildren great grandchildren. And so 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.480 after the shaking, there are many great years of joy 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.040 and peace and victory. So keep your you know, keep 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.000 your heart from going to the self pity, the depression. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.920 Why did this happen? Nothing goods in my future? No, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.920 God has something amazing in front of you. He's shaking. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.040 The shaking was to shift you into new levels, greater joy, 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.920 greater peace, greater fulfillments. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.760 You know, I love those I love those examples from 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.080 the Bible. And I was also thinking about when Paul 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:37.560 and Silas were in the prison and there was a 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.920 great shaking, Yeah, and that great shaking was something that 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.880 caused the jailer and all the people, the prisoners in there, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:50.720 to be look within themselves. They became aware of what 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.680 was going on within themselves, and the Bible said that 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.800 they gave their hearts to Christ, you know, and things changed. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.720 The jailer's family changed. And I think sometimes God is 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.360 shifting and shaking because he wants us to change. He's 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.520 always trying to get us to a better place. And 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.760 as we know humans, we can get very comfortable and 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.280 we can get very lackadaisical, and so the shifting can 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.160 sometimes just cause us to be more aware and more 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.680 aware of our family. And I think that's what you 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.840 were saying, you know, more aware of what's going on 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.960 in our life. So sometimes those shiftings are for our change, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.800 for us to change, and it's not easy to change, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.280 but sometimes God will shift it so you will change. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.800 So I think even in my own life, you know, 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.120 there's some things that I can look back and I 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.960 can think I didn't like that shifting. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:41.680 I didn't like that. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.080 But you know, if it wouldn't have happened, I wouldn't 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.840 be ready for this next season. I wouldn't be aware 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.480 of different things. I wouldn't have changed some things. So 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.680 I think that's important as well. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.240 I think that's great, Victorian, and I think as well. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.559 As you go through these difficulties, the scripture says God 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.560 to takes you from glory to glory, and I believe 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.080 to the challenges. This could sound negative, but I don't 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.679 mean it to be. The challenges can get bigger and bigger, 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.280 but every challenge you go through, that's fuel to go 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.320 through the next challenge. That's how God's taken you higher. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.360 Let me give you a better example. So when I 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.079 first started ministering, if I would face some of the 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.320 challenges that I faced today, it would have defeated me. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:20.800 But I think, you know what, God, you brought me 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.600 through the compact Center. God, you helped me overcome this. God, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.480 I look back with my mother and how she overcame. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.040 So every challenge, it may get bigger, but it's because 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.520 there's a bigger destiny in front of you, and that's 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:37.360 fuel for your faith. You know, David defeating Goliath and 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.719 then you know he's got King Saul after him. Well, 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.360 God just kept building him. There were bigger challenges, but 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.520 that's how we reach our destiny. So know that God's 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:50.400 working behind the challenges. He's working behind the scenes things 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.880 we don't understand. Sometimes it's the enemy trying to stop us. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.040 Sometimes it's the hand of God just using trouble as 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.600 transportation to move us to where we're supposed to be. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.000 I think it all boils down. I know I've said 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.080 it three times, but it boils down to keeping that 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.640 attitude of faith God. I trust you. I don't understand it. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.920 I don't like it, But God, I know you're working 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.880 in me, You're working around me, and you're taking me 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.280 to greater awesome. 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.679 We're gonna go to some of the questions from the 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.440 Talk Shop Live crew, and these are these are general questions. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.480 Some of them are specific related to the book. But 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.400 this is a question that came in from Janet from 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:29.400 San Antonio, Texas. She asked, your father was a great minister. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.360 Did you always feel you're going to be a minister 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:33.960 in following your dad's footsteps? 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.240 I really didn't, Nick. My dad was a great minister, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.800 and I admired him. He was my hero, you know, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.320 growing up with this little boy seeing my dad speaking 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.680 in front of the church, in front of thousands of people. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.720 And we'd travel across the United States during the summer, 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.640 and I see my dad at these big conferences and 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.920 everybody loved my dad. But I never thought this was 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.480 in me. I thought that's my dad, he can do that. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.200 I was behind the scenes doing all the production. But 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.760 you know what, God's dream for our life is bigger 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.960 than our own. When my dad suddenly passed in nineteen 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.120 ninety nine, I'd only ministered one time before, but I 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.600 knew I was supposed to step up and pastor the church, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.560 and I didn't feel qualified. My mind told me, there's 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.120 no way nobody's going to listen to you. You shouldn't 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.920 be up there. But you know what, I took that 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.960 step of faith. Sometimes you have to you have to 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:24.800 went out sometimes probably a lot of times, you have 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.960 to bypass what's up here and listen to what's down 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.080 in here. You have to follow what God's put in 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.280 your heart. And it didn't make sense to my mind, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.680 but I took that step of faith, and you know, 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.280 there I stepped into greater I stepped into what I 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.000 never dreamed, never dreamed I would be doing this, never 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.960 dreamed i'd be here with all of you guys today 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.600 and be sitting in the This is an extension of 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.640 the Compact Center where we're in right now. And so 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.920 you know it's part of our core message that you 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.000 don't know where God's taken you, you know you stay faithful. 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.240 I'm not bragging on me, but during those seventeen years 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.040 I was behind the scenes. I tried to make my 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.640 dad look good. I tried to be my best in 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.040 the reduction and living a life that honored God, never 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.920 dreaming that one day I would be here. But even 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.240 going back and get a little off course. But those 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.760 seventeen years, when my dad would speak a message, I 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.360 would have to listen to it because we would edit 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.440 it down from he'd speak like forty minutes and I'd 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.600 have to edit it to thirty minutes for a television program. Well, 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.520 I realize now, you know I had to hear those 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.200 messages four or five times every week. Well, God was 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.360 getting me prepared, but I didn't know it. And I 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.440 think sometimes if God told us what we were going 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.080 to do, I would have been afraid. I thought there's 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.120 no way. But you know, sometimes God just pushes you 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.640 into your destiny and you experience the favor and the 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.360 grace for that season. But that's a long answer to 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.480 a short question. But I never dreamed I would be here, 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.840 And I guess the takeaway is you don't know where 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.760 God's taking you, stay faithful where you are. I think 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.320 another good principle is be your best where you're at 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.600 right now, because sometimes we think, and I wouldn't necessarily 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.760 this way, but sometimes we think, I know there's more 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.040 in me, and I'm just at this certain job, but 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.360 I'm just at this certain level. But if you don't 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.360 pass the test of being faithful being your best where 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.280 you are, I don't believe those new doors will open. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.920 So be your best where you are. God. You're not 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.120 working under people, You're working under God. Promotion doesn't come 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.080 from people, it says, it comes from the Lord. When 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.280 it's the right time, God will open the doors. You'll 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:19.960 come into your greater It's awesome. 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:20.960 What about you. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:25.280 I mean, I know, stepping into pastoring and stepping into 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.120 that was new. It was it was something that you know, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.280 you had to take a step of faith into as well. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.840 How I mean, what's your perspective of did you ever 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.120 imagine you'd be doing this and ministering how you're ministering. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.760 And no, no, no, because I didn't marry a preacher. 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:42.400 He tricked me. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.000 No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, you know, I didn't. I 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.520 knew what I was getting into as far as the ministry, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.320 and I loved ministry, and I loved helping people, and I. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.200 Helped Joel's father a lot. 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.360 But you know, there was there's always something in you, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.320 that there's a knowing in you that greater is coming. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:02.640 Yes, you just have to. 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.359 And some people don't want to tap into that for 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.120 several reasons. Maybe they feel like, you know, they don't 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.000 want to be egotistical, they don't want but God has 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.679 put something bigger in all of us, and so I 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:15.960 didn't know what that was. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.240 I used to ask Joel, Now, Joel. 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.560 You know, if something's coming down the pike, you have 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.240 to tell me. Make sure that you don't know things 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:23.879 I don't know. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:25.200 And because I. 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.199 Always felt like not this, but I always felt like 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.320 there was something else, and we did so many things. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.639 But I think the thing is here. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.920 People don't have to shy away from feeling like there 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.440 is greater in their life because God's already put in 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.040 you what you need, and if there's something that you 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.119 don't have, He's going to. 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.640 Make sure you get it, because God is the one 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:48.400 who's calling. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.119 And I think sometimes and I know I have so 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:55.160 much and still do put so much pressure on myself to. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.880 Be what God wants me to be. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.720 But really God just wants us to lean into him 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.560 and let him bring the greater, you know. And so 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.119 that's a lesson that we all have to learn, is 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.879 to not put so much pressure on ourself. And I 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.639 know that you have to put a fair amount of 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.359 pressure on yourself, you know, because it pressure is what 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.440 forms a diamond. Pressure is what brings out the best 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.120 in us. But there's a point from being under pressure 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:24.000 to being under stress. So much stress that we put 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:24.560 on ourselves. 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:25.800 So the pressure is good. 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.280 I mean, I know that Joel faced a lot of pressure, 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.000 and I know that you talk about a lot how 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:33.760 he had to look in the mirror and he had 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.960 to tell himself that he could do it. He had 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.040 to you know, talk himself into it. And I had 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:41.760 to do the exact same thing. But so pressure is 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.000 one thing, but stress and where you get. 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.040 Really I used to get so discouraged. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.040 I thought, man, Sunday comes around fast every single week. 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.320 You know, boy, it's a Sunday again. 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.800 But I think there's a greater in you, and I 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.080 think that if you'll just rest and lean into it, 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.000 God will help you get to those places. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:01.200 Yeah, I think that's so good. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.080 And Nick, I believe the way I felt. You know 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.320 when my dad died that I didn't feel qualified, but 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.160 I discovered God gives you the grace for every season. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.840 So you may be thinking, well, I could never do this, 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.440 I could never step into my greater. Well, you don't 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.919 feel it right now, but when the time comes, God 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:20.040 has already equipped you, empowered you. You're going to feel 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:21.960 things come out of you that you didn't know you had. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.879 I didn't think I would have this confidence, this boldness, 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.600 these gifts, these talents. But God's put in you everything 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.800 that you need so you don't have to be worried. 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.560 You know when vic Victoria used to tell me, Joe, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.200 one day, you're going to pastor the church. I think 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.600 she is so off because I don't know. I didn't 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:40.359 cook it and get them to take the offering. I 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:41.840 didn't know. But you know what, there are things in 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.479 me that I didn't know. That's what kind of it 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.320 really made me mad When she say that. I'd say, 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.119 I'm not a preacher. She'd say, oh yeah, Joe just 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.600 preach to them like he preached to me. But I 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.880 thought it kind of made me frustrated because I think, 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.080 but what I didn't what I understand now is when 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.440 the time comes, you'll have the grace for it. Yes, 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.800 you'll have the desire to do what you're supposed to do. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.040 That's what you're saying, Victoria. You don't have to put 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.320 so much pressure on yourself because God's going to give 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.840 it the grace. Yes, you have to fight the good 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:08.960 fight of faith and you have to. You know, it's 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.120 I'm not saying it's going to be easy, but it's 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.000 going to be doable. The grace will be there to 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:13.280 do it. 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.399 And you know, you were talking about the confidence you 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.480 have now compared to the confidence you had then. 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.080 That didn't come because it was easy. 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.199 That came because you were doing what you're saying in 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:28.320 this book. It was an attitude with which you, you know, 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:31.639 embrace those challenges that came at you. And so when 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.800 you look back, you can say, yeah, there was some challenges, 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.120 but those challenges enlarged me. They made me more confident, 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:42.280 They made me see the world differently and how I 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.600 could make a difference in the world. 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.320 So I think that's don't you think that's huge? 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.399 Like, think about every challenge you face, it prepared you 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:51.560 for where you are today. 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.480 Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:54.280 Yeah. 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.120 I'm going to go to another question Christina and Las Vegas. 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.359 She says, I'm purchasing a copy of the book for 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.240 my daughter who's just starting college. Can you speak some 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.600 words for young people beginning this next stage of life? 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:08.600 I know one of your one of your chapters of 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.280 the book is stepping into you know, stepping into a 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.600 new chapter next? Is best that kind of thing. Anything 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.399 you'd want to encourage them with. 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.000 Probably what i'd encourage my children as well, to keep 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.800 God first place, honor him with your life. He's going 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:23.680 to open the right doors. He's going to bring the 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:27.159 right people. And I think, you know, it's it's difficult 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.359 for young people to figure out who they are and 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.440 what they're going to become and then all the options 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:34.840 these days. But I would just you know, live from 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:38.080 a place of trust, knowing that God's in control. When 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.879 you keep him first place, He's going to bring the 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.320 right people. It says, what does it say, keep seek 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.640 first of King. All these things will be added. He'll 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:47.439 get you to where you're supposed to be. And I 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.320 do I believe too that God, will you know give 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.600 you the desires in your heart. My people ask you know, 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.359 how do I know what I'm supposed to do? Especially 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.960 young people? And again I don't think it's not always easy, 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.280 but I believe God leads you by desire, desires that 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:03.480 line up with his word. I don't mean crazy desires, 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:06.080 but you know, I always had a desire nick from 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:08.360 the time I was a little well ten or eleven 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:12.000 twelve years old, to be involved in media, in the 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.359 production side of it. I love the cameras. We had 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.239 some cameras down at the church when I was growing up, 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.960 and I go down on the weekends and get the 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.080 key and turn them all on and that stuff. But 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.000 that was just in me so and that's the pursuit 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:26.080 that I took. So I believe God puts things in 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.840 you that are natural that you gravitate toward. And I 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.680 believe that's part of your destiny doesn't mean it can't change. 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:34.040 But I know this, God's going to get you to 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.080 where you're supposed to be if you keep it as 0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:38.080 you keep in first place, I believe you will. Doesn't 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.040 mean you're not going to make mistakes, but if you 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:43.639 choose to honor Him and you know, just walk in 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.200 his ways, I believe you're going to see the goodness 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.800 of God and your life's going to be bigger and 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.200 better and more rewarding than you've imagined. 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:52.840 Awesome, you've got good words. 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:53.760 Big Well. 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:55.560 I was going to say, I love the story with 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.639 Jonathan when you were praying for him when he was 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.119 stepping into college and he had met a friend and 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.520 by chance. I mean, I think that that's very encouraging 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:05.520 that God's got divine relationships set. 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:05.800 Up for you. 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.919 It does have divine relationships. And I believe that you know, 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:10.879 as a parent for sure that if you pray for 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.679 your kids, I believe that you know that's that's a 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:15.760 great thing that you can do. You can't always tell 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.160 them what to do, but you can certainly pray for them, 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:21.399 and that moves the hand right there that rules the world. 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:24.840 And I believe that also, and you know, I would 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.520 just say to the young person that's going to college. 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.639 You know, it may be scary and it may seem big, 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:33.120 and you may think that you need to attach yourself 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.280 to someone or something to make it through. But it's 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:40.000 those attachments, it's those divine connections that make all the 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:43.480 difference in the world. Because this is a real formative 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.000 year and years, and so I think that you shouldn't 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.520 just you know, think I need somebody to I need 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.800 to you know, I need to find people. I always 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:57.320 pray God bring the right people across my path. Let 0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:00.240 me see those like minded people, people that I can 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.879 really grow with. So as a young person, that's what 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.000 I would say. And God will do it. God, I 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.480 mean he did it. He did it for my son, 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.959 He did it for my daughter, you know. And so 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.800 I just I think that's I think you need to 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.200 just start talking to God more than talking to your friends. Good. 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:18.119 It's good. So we have one of our Sarah, you 0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:19.080 have a question for Joel. 0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:22.120 I do such a powerful book and a timely book, 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.359 and you know, I was reading in chapter six something 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:28.399 New is Coming. You talk about forgetting the former things, 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.639 the mistakes, the things in the past, and looking forward 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.040 to what God is doing in our life. I know 0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:38.920 I believe that, but what are some practical ways that 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.159 I can apply that to my life so that I 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:44.480 can focus on hope instead of what happened in the past. 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:46.879 Yeah, that's so good, Sarah. I think that's something you know, 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.240 we all have to do on a regular basis, letting 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.360 go of the old. I love that scripture. I wrote 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.879 the chapter off of It's in Isaiah. We all know 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.560 it. It says God says, forget the former things we hold. 0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.480 I'm doing a new thing, and then ask a question, 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.160 It says, can you not perceive it? And I think 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.840 that's a part of them. I think as long as 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.560 we can't perceive that something new is coming, as long 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.720 as we're stuck in the past, you know what happened 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.879 and what didn't work out, and why this person walked away, 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.080 I think that keeps us from seeing the new things, 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.480 and so practical ways to do it is. I don't 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.359 know that it when you say forget the past, I 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.639 don't know that it means you don't ever think about 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.080 the herd, or don't ever think about you know, lost 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.639 my dad. It's not that you don't, but it's just 0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:32.800 not on the forefront of your mind. You're more grateful 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.360 for what God has in front of you. You're focused 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.239 on the future. I read that scripture the other day. 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.720 I've never spoken on it, but it says, be glad 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.200 for all the good things God has planned for you. 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.639 And I think our mind has to be in the 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.439 present and in the future. If it's in the past, 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.520 I think it's stopping us. So I guess it's just 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.480 for me, Sarah. I just get up every morning and say, Lord, 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.919 I think you for this day. I think she'll tell 0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.080 you the first thing I say when to get out 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.080 of bed today, it's going to be a great day. 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:03.879 I think we just have to focus on the good. 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.800 I think the more we focus on the good and 0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.480 thank God for what's right, the more it pushes down 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:12.000 the past and some of these you know, it's not 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.840 as easy. I had a man on our serious XM 0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:19.120 program yesterday and at thirteen years old, his parents abandoned him. 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:20.760 I mean, it's just like, you can't even fathom this 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.240 kind of stuff. But yet today he's a country music 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.880 star and doing great things. But you know, I think, 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:28.400 how did he do it? You know? And I asked 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.000 him that question. He said, you know, I just did 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.280 it one day at a time, and he talked about 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.919 how he said, Man, Joel, I know I had a 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.200 rough pass, but I was grateful that this family took 0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.480 me in. I was grateful that they paid me twenty 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.360 dollars to mow their law, and I was grateful that. 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.320 I thought, man, you have an amazing attitude. But the 0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.800 fact is he was. He was grateful for what was 0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.760 God was doing in his life. I think, down deep, 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.080 like he said Victoria, he had something in him that said, 0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.639 I'm made for more than this. And I think if 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.960 the battle takes place in our mind, and I wish 0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:58.840 I could say you just snap your fingers and quote 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.080 through things and it's done. But I think it's an 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.840 ongoing battle. I really think it's this. I think forgetting 0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:08.440 the former things, I think it's an everyday process. Every 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.800 day you're every day you're letting go and every day 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.520 you're reaching to the new. And so I think it's 0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.000 just to make it up our mind that you know, 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.760 when we give energy to the past, we're giving energy 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:22.040 to the wrong direction. And so it's like, man, I 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.639 need all my energy to go forward, to love my wife, 0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:28.720 to play with my children to speak each weekend. I 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:32.000 can't put any energy on what somebody said about me 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.520 on social media, or the fact that my father went 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:36.920 to be with the Lord, or the fact that it's, 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.440 you know, just disappointments. So, man, you've got a big, 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.840 bright future in front of you, no reason to look back. 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.280 What do you think, Dick, Yeah, I think that's true. 0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.040 What comes to my heart when I think about moving 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:53.719 forward is the idle mind is the devil's workshop. And 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.800 sometimes we idle. We just idle in these hurts, we 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.600 idle in these things. It's just just we're just like 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.600 simmering in those things. And I think that it's like 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.919 the guy on the radio said, yes, you take it 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.760 one day at a time, but you stay busy. You 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.760 realize you have purpose, that your purpose is. You know, 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.320 sometimes there is you know, pain, but you have a purpose. 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.720 And I think when you look around and you think 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.199 of all the people that you can give to, I 0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.960 think that's purpose. I think when you look at your children, 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.440 you know, that's purpose. I know when your father passed away, 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.400 I remember it was so difficult. 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.200 We were all at the hospital. It was so sad. 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.000 I came home and I'm just so sad, so sad, 0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.280 and here comes my little kids running around the corner. 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.000 They were like, well, my daughter was two months old 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:42.120 and my son was three. 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:43.760 Three and a half. They didn't know what was going on. 0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.720 But I looked and I thought, this is purpose right here. 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.880 And you know, it's like they kept me going forward, 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.120 you know, kept moving forward. And I think it's just 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.760 it's like that. You know, I've talked to people who 0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.520 have lost a child. I can't think of anything worse 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.720 than losing a child, and I can see how anybody 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:06.200 can idle in that. But if you have other children, 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.240 there's purpose, there's purpose. 0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:09.600 The people around you need you. 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.640 And I think when we tell ourselves that and we 0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:16.400 just don't idle in those just in that hurt and pain, 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.280 I believe it's easier to push forward. 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:20.480 That's awesome. 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.160 Got another question from some of our online family, Tyler 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.440 from North Carolina. It's another personal question. It's a good 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:31.000 question and it's a question that's asked often to you. Joel, 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:32.680 you look fit and in shape. 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:37.040 Amen, these are easy. 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.280 How do you keep up your energy? Each week? 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.960 I take a lot of steroids, No kidding, I'm kidding, 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:50.240 you know, I'm joking, y'all. How do I love I'm joking, y'all. 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.560 I love to exercise. I love to I grew up 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.600 playing sports to did you Nick? Nick was a great 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.640 football player, but I grew up playing sports. So I 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:02.960 love being outdoors. I love extra sizing, working out, playing basketball, Jonathan, 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.920 I play a lot of tennis now. But I think 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:08.240 it's all about balance. It's easy to work all the time, 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.720 and I can go long and hard, but it's not 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.240 healthy to work all the time. I'm gonna be better 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.400 on my weekends. I'm gonna write better books and do 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.080 better messages if I'm balanced physically, spiritually, and emotionally. And 0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.680 so I take out of the question, you know, take 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.000 care of yourself. You know, take time for yourself. It's 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.440 not selfish to say, you know what I'm gonna have, 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.000 I've got this. I've got a couple more meetings today, 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:33.880 I've got to shoot some things. And then, you know what, 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:35.840 I'm gonna play a couple hours of tennis, and you 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:37.360 know what, There's a lot of work to be done. 0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.239 But that's important to take care of yourself. To have 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.720 time to laugh with your family. And we take walks, 0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:46.760 we ride bikes, when we can, we travel together. But 0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.040 we don't live This may sound funny, but we don't 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.920 live a pressured stress life. We live an enjoyable life. 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:59.240 We even even a real well known minister came around me. 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.760 This was years ago, and she says, you're so, You're 0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.920 so calm, You're so and she was so. You know, 0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.280 she was uptight. But you know what, I thought. You 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.760 know what, I have good people around me to help 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.720 me run the ministry, and I just think life is short. 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:19.360 The scripture says, a relaxed life, relaxed attitude lin LinkedIn's life. 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.680 I want to be around here a long time, so anyway, 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.800 you know, try to eat healthy. I try to eat 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.760 healthy as it can be a lot of Mexican food though, 0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.720 but I like chocolate cake. It's chocolate cake. But I 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:32.720 think a lot of it too, okay, and I'll get 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.120 off of this, but a lot of it is hereditary, y'all. 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.920 My mind, I can eat anything I want and I'll 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.160 never gain a pound. It's just some of it is 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.360 just God blessed me with the DNA from skinny people. 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.240 So here I am you know to you know, you 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:47.080 you are what you eat. 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.640 You know, I'm just kidding, you know, it's not only 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.520 he's a very active person, but I think not just 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.880 what he's taken in, you know, food wise, but I 0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.960 really think it's what he's taken in the environment wise, 0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:05.040 what environment he's allowing to get in him. And I 0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:09.520 think Jewel is extremely disciplined credible to be able to 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:14.800 set boundaries up what gets in his psyche, what gets 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:16.680 in his heart, what gets in his mind. And I 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.560 think that's so important because it doesn't push out, it's 0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.040 not taking room for other things that are really important. 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:27.200 And that's not an easy thing to do, it's really not. 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.680 But I think that's something that we could all benefit from, 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.040 is like, what are we allowing from the environment, from 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.400 the news, from other people to go in us? 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.040 Because that can be really toxic. 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.600 And yeah, you have to know what's going on, but 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.800 you don't have to know every detail. You don't have 0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.520 to watch every show. It's every it's the same thing 0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.520 just being said differently, right, And so I think that's 0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:53.040 one of one of his really big strengths is to 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.560 be able to set up boundaries and just say no, 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.480 I'm not taking that in. I know enough, I don't 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.360 want to do that, right, now, and so I think 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.880 that's I think that's really important, and not everybody. It's 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.200 probably comes easier to you, don't you think, Yeah, it does. 0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:12.360 But we can all manage that. We can all learn 0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:13.040 to manage that. 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.360 It's such a great point because your emotional affects your physical. 0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:20.120 Really it's all intertwined. But you know, if you're emotionally drained, 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.200 you don't it. It affects your physical body. And so 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:27.360 you're exactly right. I'm good at letting things go and 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.880 you know, not letting it get down. I've done a 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.200 message called the Secret Place. A lot of things may 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.000 come to your head, come to your mind, come to 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.560 your you know, stress during the day, but it shouldn't 0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.200 get down into your spirit. You shouldn't let things get 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.840 down in here, even in offense, that's going to drain 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.360 you and take your energy. So I'm real good at, 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.840 like you said, Victoria, just keeping things out. And part 0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.600 of that is just you know, I like to if 0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.280 I'm listening to something, I want to lift it. Listen 0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.840 to something uplifting, I want to lift it. Listen to 0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.040 something encouraging. It's a great minister. On one twenty eight, 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:03.000 serious sexIf no I'm kidding, but sometimes Victoria I laughed 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:03.320 so hard. 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.680 Okay, okay, about you. 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.520 She got she got the news on at night. I 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.560 think Victory turned the news off because she comes out 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.200 so upset, so so irinables. Would you turn that off? 0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.319 She started turning it off. That's so much better. There's 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.319 so much easier to live life. You know what. 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.439 One time I said, hey, I've quit watching so much news, 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.120 and he looked at me and he goes, I thought. 0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:33.200 You were happy. I'm just good to know what's going on. 0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.319 To keep up with everything going on, I have to 0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:36.960 do all the hard work in the fan