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25. Anadaeia
Bishop Dag Heward-MillsAbout this sermon
Camp Title - Breakforth & Become Who You Can Become. Machaneh Collection - 59. Preached in 2009, Ghana (Elmina). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.
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Welcome to track #25 of break forth and become who you can become. Now we want to continue on Anadea. Anadea, in Luke 11 verse 8, it says, And I say unto you, that though he will not rise and give to him, because he is his friend, yet because of his importunity he will rise and give him as many as he needeth. This is the power of shamelessness. The people who will not rise and come to your church, they will rise and come to your church. Because of shamelessness. All those who wouldn't have come will come, he says. Although he wouldn't rise and give you bread. The people who will rise and come to your church and pay tithes, I'm talking about Anaka's Anadea, they wouldn't have come, they wouldn't rise and they wouldn't give you bread. But God is showing you a power. Are you listening to me? A power? That power will make them rise. It will make them come. It will make them respond. You see, Christ is showing us a power that make people get up even when it is inconvenient. Many of us when it's inconvenient, our members don't come. But God is showing you here the power that will make the people come even when it is inconvenient, a power that w
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Welcome to track #25 of break forth and become who you can become. Now we want to continue on Anadea. Anadea, in Luke 11 verse 8, it says, And I say unto you, that though he will not rise and give to him, because he is his friend, yet because of his importunity he will rise and give him as many as he needeth. This is the power of shamelessness. The people who will not rise and come to your church, they will rise and come to your church. Because of shamelessness. All those who wouldn't have come will come, he says. Although he wouldn't rise and give you bread. The people who will rise and come to your church and pay tithes, I'm talking about Anaka's Anadea, they wouldn't have come, they wouldn't rise and they wouldn't give you bread. But God is showing you a power. Are you listening to me? A power? That power will make them rise. It will make them come. It will make them respond. You see, Christ is showing us a power that make people get up even when it is inconvenient. Many of us when it's inconvenient, our members don't come. But God is showing you here the power that will make the people come even when it is inconvenient, a power that will release them to come when it costs them something to come. That power is released and will be released in your ministry and in your life. Amen. People will get up and come to your church in Takrani in Cameroon by this particular power. This particular power will make it sense that though he will not rise because he's his friend. That means relation. Relating has not worked. Interaction did not work, engaging the people did not work. Now another power, you see, every time you engage an enemy and you don't overcome him, it means that either he's a superior enemy and therefore needs a superior weapon which you need to deploy to make him come. Now one of the things that is almost absent from almost all of us here is an idea. I would say that the the students have more an idea. I mean the the young, the new pastors who started this year. But for most of the old ones, you see, you are like a child when you are a little child, you, you, you, you bath anywhere in front of anyone, isn't it? But the older you get, the more conscious you become of being ashamed of any possible shame of any sort. And that's what happens spiritually. As you get older spiritually and you stay longer in the ministry, the more conscious you become of avoiding any possibility of embarrassment. That's what happens the longer you are a pastor and the longer you are in the ministry. That is why Bishop Obinim and Prophet One are good examples of somebody who comes and has nothing to lose and even though they may not rise through interaction is another. When you go to this church, do you have a O FM S? No. Do you have ministry meetings? No. You have shepherds? No. None of those things are being used. He says, though they will not rise because he's his friend. That means that the ministry is not working through ministry meetings, friendships, interactions and whatever, but it is working through another power. So God is showing you another power that can make him rise from far away and come and bring you bread. Yeah, the bread that they are bringing is very important. Are we not talking about becoming who you can become? So if I am shameless, I'm preaching whether there are miracles or no miracles, I don't care. I have taken my shame upon myself. I said whether there are miracles or no mirror, whether people come or people don't come. No, it's the same principle I used to keep moving forward. Whether people buy the book or they don't buy the book, I'll write it. And people are rising up, not because I've engaged them in friendship, but they are rising up to bring bread to me. Then I should do what with the bread? And the bread is all around me. I should do what? Redistribute it to those who are ashamed. I will not redistribute the bread. We are all in our houses. We are all hungry. You are sleeping in your bed. You are sleeping in your bed, You are in your house. All of us have got visitors at the wrong time and we are all experiencing embarrassment. Now I have got out of my house to my neighbor and I'm shouting to him, coffee, coffee, he cannot hear me. I say coffee, he cannot hear me. And people are wondering. I say coffee, who is that? I say coffee. It's me, your neighbor. Your your your your neighbor. John. What? What is happening? So I I need something. What do you need? I need bread. What? Bread. What? I can't hear you. Bread. Bread and butter. Bread or bread and butter? Brotho. Meanwhile, you are all sitting in your houses listening. You're all sitting there in your, your uncle. We are on the best. And you have also all had business at the wrong time and you all need bread and you didn't know they were coming. You all don't have bread, but I am shouting bread, bread and butter, bread and butter. I I came to your house a lot so that you have some bread. Can you give me some? Outside the gate is shouting. Everybody's listening, including those who do not have visitors. Some people have been woken up and then those who have visitors are also there listening. And finally he said, he said, I'm coming. And they come, they open the gate, they open, put on the light, everything. Then you go in. So I need bread, and bread stands for meat. It's time for salt, matches, food, pepper, anything. And he gives you. So thank you. Then you carry it. That's why I told Archbishop that he should come where we were sitting and where the food was, was far. And I said let's go, say he wouldn't go. And I convinced I so you let's go because you are hungry. All of us, this man, he has eaten. This man has eaten me to have eaten. But you are hungry, so let's go. I'll go with you and I'll carry the food here for you. Because the man was going to carry the food from the house like this. That's why people put things in bags and in baskets. And then these guys themselves and they are moving and you are going to car. So I said let's go. I'll carry the football dish, all the things that you want. And then I even helped him to dish. I so have this. I said, you know that I'm not supposed to. I said, oh, you today, you take it. It's good options. I put it in his plate for him. I said let's go for him now that is Anna there and listen carefully. Are you there? You don't want to do that because you are Mr. Dignified. Somebody has done it and the people are coming without a O FM S ministry meeting, fellowship, engaging, going to their house, all those all strategies. They are shameless in a whole range. But you are full of shame. You are full of reservation and self preservation. And now that the bird has come to me, you want me to share it with you? The reason why some of you cannot sing like Ida is because you need shamelessness to sing well. If if you if you are afraid of making a mistake, I'll never learn how to sing. You need to be able to. Oh wow, you tried and it doesn't work. You try again. You tried and you need a lot of shamelessness. Golf is like that. That's why Pastor Richard found a long time to to play. Yes, it was. It was, it was shame. He felt that he, you know, he was being there. But when he plays in the mothers, he moves. People will laugh at me. He misses. Yeah. He was missing himself. Said it's not that I'm telling him himself. Said it's like he's an embarrassing thing. Yeah. So you are keeping yourself. So now Pastor Interfer, take the microphone and ask the people, apply this principle to your practical like if anybody has applied it in Guinea, If there's anybody from Guinea, ask him if he has applied it. Yes, Pastor Victor, have you applied this principle? If you haven't, you just say I haven't and then you get a price and then you're moving on. Do you see that is have you practically done? Is that something you can apply and have you applied it put put on there? Yeah, normally was it last last Christmas we had like a get together for the church and I personally went around and served some people encourage them to come to the table of to get food to them myself during the get together. During the get together. Yeah. Oh, so. So what were you trying to do? They were first timers. There were people that we had invited and things. So just just for them to. Oh, OK, so like new people. You are a pastor. Yeah. What about like the church we are talking about, you know, to let the church grow something that I mean an activity that you shamelessly did or you have been doing or what activities as a pastor, can this shamelessness be applied to financial to grow? I think it could be applied. It could be applied in a way that maybe you go to, I go to invite someone. Let us apply it in the area of preaching. Preaching to speak, for instance, what I, what I, what I, I tried doing is to, while speech and I bring in my French, the little French that I know and I make mistakes and they'll be laughing and I say, well, I don't care. I'll, I'll still speak it. OK, that's good. What else? And I also had, I also have a few ceremonians in the church. And one of the things I noticed after I think a couple of weeks was that when I preach, one of the ladies actually came to me to say that first all that he said we didn't understand. So because the one the English days speak a different kind of English and they couldn't understand the French as well. So I decided to also learn the the English that is Sirlinian, the Creole. They call it Creole. So in between I also speak they can they start laughing, but I just go on to to do so. Pasasami Sirioso concrete activity. Yeah, Bishop, I, I have a program that I started last year. It's it's a power power service and I call it Miracle Wave. And I do it monthly, sometimes in six weeks, every other six weeks I do it. But recently, that was last month, we were going to have a Miracle Wave and I, we did Flyers. We do it in the evenings, Sunday evenings. So we did flies and I went out with my people and there there was something that I told them to tell the people when they go and knock on their doors. And it was like I was advertising something that I was coming to do. And the miracle Waiker who has come to tell you, come and I'll work the miracles for you. So I knock on their doors. I tell them, come bring the sick people in the evenings and I'll pray for them and they'll be healed. And they came. A lot of people, they are not church members. They came and it's and I told them that they should put their prayer request in an, an envelope and they should bring it. I'll prefer it and I'll take it to my house and prefer it for seven days. And miracles will come whatever they need. And in fact, they came, people I didn't know them, they, they still came. And I, I think it's powerful. When I was doing it, when I initially was going to do it, I felt, well, I'm the one who's going to do it, so they should go and then do it for me so that when they come back, I said, look, I have to do it. So we went out and it was, it was powerful. So, so I think that the key here is that as you yourself, you are inviting the people you are not sure yourself. Do you see that what you are saying would, would, would actually happen? But it's like you are shamelessly saying it, believing that perhaps something will happen. You know, an attitude and I'm sure that something will happen. It's powerful. Yes. Pastor from Appam. OK. Is there anybody who who does not does realize that he does not use another idea? No, I want somebody who does not passages like what I'm preaching, all that I've said. It doesn't apply to most of us here, isn't it? Because most of us use Anadea, isn't it? Or is that not the impression that you're tea? Yeah. And so take the take the microphone and help us. Basically, what I'm preaching doesn't really apply. I mean apply much. Like, oh, we practiced obviously already it doesn't apply to you. So is anybody who would say that genuinely, you have not been using Anadea in your Yes, I'll say in the area of Japanese. I mean, as I'm in a French country teaching in English. I think I was at when I was told to practice in front of the mirror. I was ashamed. I mean, I tried my lung, my tongue doesn't seem to care around the words. And it was very difficult. And I began to give myself excuses that maybe it's because I'm above 30. I've become complex. I thought I give myself also weird excuses. And then after a while I employed somebody to teach me the English and still French, the French and still it was difficult. And when I speak it they laugh. So I only speak the words I'm very confident about. The ones I'm not sure about, I don't speak it. So I realized I couldn't progress with their language. Then this year my wife came and within about 3 months she started speaking and I realized that, look, I can do it, can try. So I that's when I even started. So only this year that I started speaking around, but I actually why I didn't learn it. I gave myself excuses and it was basically because I was ashamed. So is there anybody else who say that you, you, you don't apply on the day At this point we have teaching. Yes, yes. Person for simple very briefly, but direct to the point. Yeah, you sure? With my experience, when I started a church at Asim Vu Soup, they were calling us English church and I tried a tree and it wasn't going at all. So I realized any time I tried a laugh at me, then I coil into my shells. I find it difficult to lend a tree. But at a point, I realized the church was really not working with the English. So I began, and it's still there. They were laughing at me, and I called back. So I like that. Yeah. I see. Why one of the keys, why the church is. No way. Yeah, it's an area. And I've also observed that apart from Central Gospel, there's no English church that is doing well in the area. So I have to go into the tree. I'm now learning the tree. Seriously. OK. Yeah. How many years have you been in Nasim for soon? Four years, four years. So what I'm saying is that this prophet and so on, who are shameless, they don't have ministry meetings. If he will not rise because he is your friend, because what happens in the ministry? We make friends. You can summarize a church to be say it's a group of a large group of friends. It's friendship. Exactly. So that is it. So in the absence of making of friends, do you get it? We have shamelessness. It will make them rise. It will make them come. It's powerful. Is there anybody? Yeah. Well, practically, how can you apply that? You have not been applying, but you can. You are going to apply. Don't tell us your success story. Tell us what you are going to. Do Bishop, We started a service in the local language. I preach in French and somebody translates. And I think a couple of months ago I just felt I should go into the market. There's a market not far from where the church is, go there and talk to the truck pushes. So I went with a couple of people who went and did that. But as I started going, my heart started beating very, very seriously. And when I got there, what I, I knew I should have done, I, I just went and talked to one or two people and things like that. And I came back and the service is struggling. It has struggled for a long time. I have prayed about it. As Bishop spoke, I knew clear that this cause it's like, ah, they'll go and see you sitting with these dirty boys who push the tracks. You are talking to them. But I know that that is what I should do. Suddenly I it is very clear to me that is it. Yeah, one day I was in the bus, the Ding Dome. I mean, I used to preach in the bus, said this. But I want to preach and I was afraid. Should I preach? That's a shame. They so on fire. Someone got up Coquedro. He. Ministered to us from Cape Coast to Accra. Coquedro. I lost my chance because I didn't have an idea. Yes. Shop in Asanka, guard the district assembly. I often go there, but always when I'm going I have the mind I'm going to talk to the staff there. But anytime I get there, I just yeah, I become teammate and I just go to one or two people. Then I I console myself with the fact that I have done something. But honestly, I go there some. Some I always see a group of workers sitting under the tree and it's like. I know these are the people I must talk to, but when I see them I'm just ashamed of myself and I just recoil. So, and again, you see an ADEA, there's nothing like 7 steps I can give. The step is to do it. It's a one step thing. That's it. There's no steps. Again, three steps, 7 steps to an ADEA, whatever. So one of the areas, let's look at the different areas where people respond to and one of them is preaching. The preaching. You're preaching ministry. Many, many times you are not preaching well because you are ashamed. Yeah, if you are preaching in three, you feel ashamed at what? Explain it. I'm saying that if you are, you don't normally speaking in P and you are told to preach in P, sometimes you feel ashamed that maybe you are lowering yourself or you are not international or whatever one else. You could have said I had that thing, but one day I decided, look, I have to get over this thing. So you just have to decide that you just get over it and learn the thing very well and move on with it. And when you do that, you're able to reach, I mean, more people than you can ever reach, OK. What about if you are preaching normally in the language? Thank you. You can sit down the normal language that you are supposed to preach in and you can preach in it not PE whatever, let's say English. What is it that shamelessness releases in preaching your I believe your ability to, you know, to to to to to be real, to be real. And, and if the examples, they are good examples that you can use yourself. You know, to, to to, to to give you use yourself. You know that I I look one day or at a particular time last year, something you know, they used to explain because with that, as sometimes what happens is that self preservation, self consciousness and the message becomes mysterious. It's not a practical, you know, message the window that must be used and not used, the examples. And our Bishop is saying, sometimes even saying the thing, you know, like we are talking about sex, you know, calling the police and the vagina and the fact that sex is putting pennies into vagina and moving in and out, in and out, in and out. It's OK, it's OK, it's OK, it's OK. It's OK to be clear. No, no, no. Listen. Why is you have to take your time? That one, when you say it can also put up some people. It can also make some people leave the church. Yeah, it can make some people leave the church. But listen, if you take Rollins and President Kufu, which of them is more interesting to listen to? Yeah. Why is Rollins? Because some people even comment about that. He's mad. He has a mental problem as he speaker. What he's saying doesn't make sense. How many have heard those type of comments before? Yeah. Meanwhile, all of us here will agree that if Rollins is Speaking of President Kufu is President Rollins or President Kufu is speaking, it will be more interesting to listen to what President Rollins is going to say. How many agree with that? So what is the difference? Yes, Doctor. Normally when you are speaking publicly, the best thing to do would be to write your notes, have the points and so on. But when you speak extempore, I mean you, you speak without looking at your notes, the tendency that you can make mistakes, you can preach for about 40 minutes and not really even hit the points that you really wrote down and self consciousness would want to. I mean, if you want to preserve yourself, you don't want to really look at your notes, go back and read it, then you say everything that you wanted to say. But if you are preaching like Rawlings, the tendency to send us even forget the things or go off and so on. And sometimes it can bring shame. And so I think that is one of the ways when you preach, you are not able to really send across a message. But that is the preaching also that's that's really attracts people and makes them really want to listen to you when you are not reading your notes or looking at points and so on to I don't think people read notes and listen to points. Read points here. Larry, what are you saying? What I want to contribute or say is there are two places that when you are speaking, there are two places that what you are saying is coming from. It depends on that's your mind or your spirit. The Bible says the word of God is the sword of the Spirit, which means that if you have the word of God in your mind, just in your mind, and you say it. It's not the sword is the sword of the mind is the sword. Of the mind. So it doesn't, it doesn't cut, but when the word of God is coming from your spirit, in other words. That's when it is a sword. You are not acting, you are saying it. Wait, wait, wait. When it is coming from your spirit, that is when it is a sword of the spirit, and that is when it cuts, and that is when it cuts the effect. And when it is coming from the spirit, that is when it has that effect. That's when it's coming from the heart, and that's when it's real. The rest is not real. You look at what you do. Understand what he said. It's the sword of the spirit, you see? So preaching that is not from the heart, it's not. But most of the hard preaching, if you want to say what you really think, if you want to say what you really think, you see, then you, you say, let me not say it. If I say it some way, you see, in some way you get it. So the sword of the spirit, that's a very powerful revelation. Preaching that is not effective is usually not working because of shamelessness. Now, how many of you think that naturally the way you are, is it the way we even look? Our preaching may not be shameless, naturally speaking. Raise your hand. Only two people. OK, good. Yeah, Stand up. You look very distinguished. Come. How many agree that he looks very distinguished? Speak, speak from the microphone. Say hello to everybody. Hello, my name is Pastor Povo. You. Are you a head prefect? At which school? St. Augustine Senior Prefect. How many agree that he looks principal, Gentle, dignified, diplomatic? So if I, your major project in life may be to become undignified like me, am I not undignified? Advise him. Even if I'm dignified or undignified, I'm preaching and then it's working. Many of us it's not working. So you have to diagnose dignified or undignified, which one is needed. Mr. Dignified, do you agree with what they are saying? I agree. Your home ministry could change based on becoming a little more blase. You see somebody like this, you can't even imagine that he could even have a wife or a girlfriend. No, I would say I should say a girlfriend in the world. How many agree with me? Oh, raise your hand if you look. Please. I don't want any joke jokes. Please. When you were in the world, you had. Did you have such things? Sure I did. I want to preach, I also said. You had what? I had girlfriends and. When what? And when I preach, I say I say it. I say so yes. You should have a lot of girlfriends. Yes, a lot of them. A lot of them, it doesn't look like very distinguished with these glasses, Senior Prefect. So I have a lot of them jumping around like a frog. In fact, there is no act to find the man's construction in the face. How many are surprised see they're all surprised come mercy. How many will not be surprised if this one has had a lot of different girl presidents see just just the way he is. Always loves that this is Mr. Dignified. People are not expecting such things of such a person, you see. And so when we are preaching, it's something that you have to apply practically to yourself because it does apply. Everybody here can see what I'm saying, but what I hear can see it, you see, because you realize that maybe a lot of people don't arise from their houses to come to you with bread. Yeah, even the way you speak, you see, when you speak, it's so perfect. I say I am happy to be in Venezuela. I'm happy to be in Venezuela, very proper. You see? Pictures. You say he's happy in South Africa. Say I'm happy to be in South Africa, I tell you. So you cannot get it more clearer than it is being said today. That is it, this one, this what he need. It's not about anointing, even about anointing. It's even understanding. You see, that's why sometimes you hear as pronouncing, pronouncing setting words. I don't know my little pronouncing setting. Bring the money. I don't know. It's not my normal. It's not my normal way of speaking. I don't speak English that way and I have a lot of English words that I know how many. Realize that you are bereft of most of the words that I've been sharing to see the words. You are amazed when you see some of the words in the books. You may think I don't have words. I've intentionally withdrawn a lot of words from circulation. And how I said the circulation. You don't say circulation, It's circulation, circulation. Sometime when I professor, I said that I see the marbles in your house. Your floors shall be covered with marbles. There's nothing like marbles. It's marble. Marbles are little round balls. But I said that, God, I see your house fully tied with marbles. Marbles on the right, white shiny marbles. There's nothing like marbles. I think. I'm not tired with marbles. I think how you are even. Saying, you know. I see, I see. I see setting. You know that even that I don't know if Pastor Paul can say that I. See you certain people here, some of you you see I. Was looking for you to finish. I see you receiving. How many will agree that he did not pass that? Look, I hope it's getting clearer. So even in the preaching how you are. So ask your neighbor, how am I? Pastor Salas come what do you feel? I feel it. Yeah, I feel it. Oh, say yes, I. See, you are moving from something small to something big. It shall be well with you say yeah, I didn't hear your envelope. Yeah, now, now, now if you are in Ghana or even Africa talking to African people, you need to let see even what he was. Say it. Look, look at his finger. You see? Look at his finger. I want you to know to know the next year about this time, that is time. Did somebody say about this time? By this time it shall work. It shall work. I didn't hear you ask to say look like this. I didn't hear you. It shall work. I. So you see Hamas, I'm explaining if you listen to either singing, when she speaks, when she speaks, you'll be surprised that she's a normal Ghanaian because the singing has been Lent. That's not, she's not an American. One day somebody came to the church and said he thought Helen Bella was in the church. Yeah, he said that. Total, total Bella. He was shocked. I've had all kinds of Americans and whatever singing and and because then she has learned how to sing like that. That's why I say that it's something that you also learn many of the things we have to learn them. So if you if you are going to sit down there and say Charlie Media, this how I am. You see the stubbornness. The bronze is iron neck. Are you listening to me? I want to say, are you listening? You see, listen. You don't say listen. I mean, give me a break. You don't say listen. I'm saying all those. Even in the church there is always a term or some kind of something that is so there is always something to make the people alive, something you know, to keep us going. But you are there, very dark with a very dark voice. No life about you. Everything is former. That voice is very former. Now that says, he says look to be a servant of the Lord. He will change you, inject you, you will be injected. You would change this, change that change. You don't even know what's happening to you. Again, how many realize that you change every second? Yeah. The vessel is changing. Changing. You realize that it's like without it, you, you cannot even become what you're supposed to become. Yeah. When I went to Paris, when I preach the first service, I went back to the pastor's office with him and he was talking with me and he said that all you are very. Calm when you preach, he said you are very calm. They don't have African. The only other African preacher that they have been having was Pastor IO. Those of you knowing from Nigeria, IO yeah, so he said you are very calm and he said you are laid back. So I'm laid back when I preach, it's like I'm just. So I said well how do you preach? He said, oh me, I'm jumping, running, a white man, all the congregation is black. He said jumping, running, sweating, running. I ran down the puppy, running, shouting, that's how he is. He said that's why even there are black people in the church. But the normal white preaching, standing at one place without moving and using English words to explain yourself. Our people, we don't use, we use. Listen, listen, listen, listen to me. You know, we are saying an Englishman will say you have to, you have to pay attention to this particular point. And we will say listen, listen carefully, listen carefully. Look here, watch, watch this. Are you understanding me? Take it. What? So I am the laid back preacher even according to this white man, that's why he has 8000 people on Sunday. What do you think? So first of all, I mean you, you need to change. And if you can't change, you should say it early. And if somebody thinks he can't change, you say to him early so that he takes another line of ministry because may not be able to change. It may be so much a part of you. And you may, you may have so much difficulty in the ability to change certain things because if you are cool, you may need to come out. It depends on what you are doing. Yeah, like this dressing thing we are talking about. I mean, the key is touch and the swinging of the hands. The swinging of the hand must be slower and it must go in a little circle like this. I don't wear batik shirts to get that impression. Thatch. Pastor Salas has told us Thatch is even what he's wearing. See. Compare with this one. He's a lawyer. He has his own company in London. His own firm. Yeah. He employs white people. White people work for him. Listen. Wow. Isn't that fantastic? So brothers and sisters and are there in preaching, sit down and are there in money fundraising. That is what the problem. How can you applicate what I'm saying quickly? Our time is almost up. Quickly fundraising Money. Shame. Do you use it? How many use it? How many don't use it? Raise your hand if you don't. I want someone who doesn't. You don't use. Is it Solomon? What's your name? Duncan. You do not say what you do not do. When I'm taking that offering, I'm conscious of the amount of money that I mentioned in the church. It's like I can't mention 10CD20CD5, CDI said. I'll pick pick up your offering and let's pray over it. Why do you do that? I think that people cannot give certain amount. It's like the confidence in asking such amount from the people is not there. So I just flew that they should take out their offering. Is it? Is it the same as shamelessness? Is there anybody here who thinks you are not so shameless in collecting offerings? I'm not talking about fundraising offerings. You are. You are not very shameless. Raise your hand, Selassie. Stand up. Explain it. What is your problem? Say what you are. Maybe I didn't understand the question because I understood that someone who is not shameless in collecting. Yes. So it means that you are reserved. No, I am not. I'm I'm not shame. I'm not ashamed. To not shameless means shame. Is there anybody else? OK, so it means you're all you don't have a problem with that. Now what about fund raising? How many things that you have some shame to raise funds to mention a big amount? Yeah, that's why you will not have. And somebody who stands somewhere to mention a big amount has to come when he gets the big amounts, redistribute it to those of you who don't mention big amounts. Yeah. How many of you received the offering? And shake hands with the congregants as they come when they put it. And you shake hands with them when they give their tithes. You shake their hands apart from. And you lay hands on them too. Is it fantastic? So I think they don't have a problem in this. Isn't it shameless? Yes. Yeah, yeah. And it's like you've come to take away the money. And when you talk about money, a lot of people will start to leave the church. I realized that suddenly it's, it was like a wet blanket over me. And so during the service, while I preach, now I have to struggle because like, hey, at the back when I start to take offerings, that's like, hey, you are the people will leave the church if you talk too much about money. And meanwhile, we are trying to grow the church too. So it suddenly shook me, but I believe that I'm loosed. I'm going back to let them sow their seeds. Who has a problem, Andy? Hello. Yeah, I don't have any problem with that. But I think that another area that we can also be seamless about is to talk to our friends who are in the secular world and say, look, I was your classmate. I'm now I'm. I'm not. Are you listening? Nobody should talk. Please speak. Yeah, is to say that I'm your mate. We're in class for so many years. I need you to support me wherever I am, shamelessly and also family, friends. You get $100 for that. It takes another level of shamelessness to talk to people that you know and say, brother, you, we are all quantity surveyors from school. We finished building technology. I also finished. We all finished in 1998. I have given myself and I'm go, I've gone to this. Whatever I want you to support me. We give an offering of this amount every month or once. Whatever you can do. Will you do it? I'll not do it. Then you go away with your shame. I I did that once. I asked my roommate. I asked him for £50 and he said I will not, I will not. He's he was not coming to our church or anything, but he was a doctor and working in Europe and everything. I said give 50 lbs. I talked with him and talked with him and so on. When I finished talking, he said, oh, I can't do it. I'm sorry. Yeah, I was ashamed. You've had the same experience. Yes. Somebody who for the sake of not would be ashamed. You get it. You will not ask. So one day, a similar thing occurred to me. I decided to ask one of my church members for money. I was thinking of us. I need more money, so I called. I said come. When I come I said I know you give and he gives. I said but I need more money and I want you to give more than you are giving as I don't feel your contribution. As I was talking, he said play Bishop, it's OK, stop talking, I'll see you tomorrow. When he came the next day, he said this amount that I'm going to give you and he gave thousands of dollars, thousands and thousands. He could have said no, like my roommates. I don't care if I'm ashamed. That's why we don't have money. Because people who will not give because of their friendship, because you ask them in that shameless way, they will be embarked. One day a certain person called and asked for some money. A senior man of God and we didn't have money at all. But I tell you, I said to myself that I will not let this guy be embarrassed for asking me that I can't. He called Bishop. I called Bishop Doug and I asked him for this money to help in something that was happening. He has never asked for money before, before and after, never asked, never, never asked. But just the fact that he had asked in the middle of our own crisis, I said to, to, to to ensure that he will not be ashamed or embarrassed that he called me. But I know that thing. You actually humble yourself to ask for the money. And they said no. I said I will not allow him to be disgraced or embarrassed. I'll always take away from what we rather needed and give it to our. You see, there is something about shamelessness that provoked something that they wouldn't have done. But because you have brought yourself to that shouting level, the persons, if you say yeah, you realize that no, for the person to ask this, nobody doesn't ask. But for him to ask for support or for my own colleague, my roommate, my classmate to ask. So that's why what my roommate did was quite embarrassing. I mean, he should have even just, you know that. Yeah. Yeah, so I will just give this. I can't give monthly, but I can give this or whatever and you know, so so how should I do, you know, just to, I mean, take away my shame. But he didn't. I felt the shame, I was ashamed. But Pasobe, you wanted to say something. So if you don't have money, I have used my shamelessness to ask somebody. Come. Maybe your mother can help you. Maybe your mother can help you in the ministry. Ask her. Maybe your father can help you. Maybe your brother can help you. So tell them Me. I asked my sister. Help me. That's how I was able to enter the ministry. People have helped me to be where I am. So ask them, Can you support me? Can you help me? I need support. American missionaries, That's what they do. That's why they come to America every year and they go around different, different places asking for money. Can you give me $100? Can you give me 200? Can you give me 1000? Can you give that? They get, they get, they ask and they get, they get a lot of money. Then they go back to where they are on the field with the support. I was going to say that it's very true, especially also for construction when you're doing construction, you know, because I mean, I had the same experience where we had, we didn't have money to tile the church. And I remembered a guy I knew in Indonesia and I tracked his number and found him. It was, he had gone to do some work for the United Nations and he sent $2200. You know, when I told him that look, when you come, you come and see the tiles yourself. And when he came to see, see very, very listen. And also another area is when you have members who go somewhere and they are not attending a church somewhere, you must keep in touch and let them know that they are still members and they must still continue to send their tithes. And show them how to send it and. Show them how to send it. Because I've had people who have gone to Dubai and they don't attend church, you know, and I'm tracking them. And look, you must, you are still my member. Whatever, I'll find a way to send you messages. You must send the tithe back back home. What do you think? Yeah, so yourself reservation and you may say I don't know anybody. That's why I said do this and do this and do this. Relate with the great and the small interact, whatever you get the support. How do you think we are here? And somebody who has shamelessly been able to get support, Did you do what redistribute in Redistributed name redistributed me. My mother has helped me, my sisters have helped me, my relatives have helped me. And I also have relatives who have not helped me. Yeah, even Pastor Robert is my relative. He's my relative. He has helped me. He's still helping me. You see? Yeah. So, Charlie, there's no particular formula, but one of the things that keeps us out of things that could help us is shame. And some of us feel that. And Bishop, you don't understand me. All my family are poor. You see, we come from a poor. What should I say to you? Bronze head, bronze head, iron neck. Bronze head. OK, we are finishing. And I believe that we finish fundraising, preaching, evangelism. I tell you, as you get older, just tell yourself, I am more ashamed. It's true. It's more shameful. Miracles, altar calls. Oh, I mean when I'm doing some altar calls, I know people are thinking nobody will come. And anytime somebody can, I say in my head, oh shame. I say it in my head. I don't say it. I don't say it in the microphone, but I say it in my head, Oh, shame. You see that people came. So, brothers and sisters, Salas, what do you have to say? OK, Yeah. We we should also be shameless in the area of taking testimonies. Which is a key of winners Chapel. They take testimony in every service. Somebody come up and say what has the law done? They do is one of the and and and and and and Bishop where the process is that it is the cheapest way to do something. Any testimony shall release another person's blessing, he said. He said it's the cheapest way to do something. Mike Metrop was quoting him. Mike Maddock was consider Bishop Oedipo has understood the power of testimonies and he gave he quoted him and he said that Mike Maddock said that Bishop Maddipo says that testimony given is the cheapest easiest way of either that is well something I tell you it's a very powerful thing. I see taking our testimonies is where the shames that when they come and say that, oh, you prayed for me last and I got admission to the school. It's nothing. That's what prophets do. That's what they set up. Sister, come last. Last Sunday I spoke a word. I you were going for the interview and I told you that the Lord was going to do it. And the Lord has opened the door and she has been admitted into that school. Why don't you put your hands together for the Lord For what the Lord was done what but you see to you it's like what is admission to school? Just apply, take the forms and then you go. If you pass, you pass if you don't pass, you don't pass. A lot of people have gone and they were not pray for and they got admission. The laws doing is a lot. I mean you see you don't respect it and you are you are ashamed of these things Ain'tina. You cannot go to a certain height. Are you getting what I'm saying? Finish it. I think I've made my point. Thank you very much. This is the first time that he sounds less than a certain level of spiritual authority. That's who you really are. You believe it? Yeah. So sometimes when I forget myself and I am in the midst of people and I become like, I'm at home, people get this, like, this guy's quiet. But that is. Who? I don't. If I'm not preaching, I can't speak straight. To be honest with you, those who know and if you can't remember that when we are conversing normally I can't talk straight. But when I I, I stand behind the puppet. Now I will forget. Stand to your feet, see what time. OK, 11 it's now 9:30. So what 11 or 1132 hours break. Lift your hands. Father, it's a blessing. We thank you in Jesus name, Amen. You may redistribute yourselves around.