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22. Anagkazo 2

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
January 7, 2025 2h 0m

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Camp Title - Breakforth & Become Who You Can Become. Machaneh Collection - 59. Preached in 2009, Ghana (Elmina). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.

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Welcome to track #22 of break forth and become who you can become. Praise the Lord, but in the meantime, we want to take up a few more questions and then just for a few minutes and we'll move on as God wills. So once again, intelligent people ask questions, as I said about you. Are you intelligent? Says no. Then ask them are you dull? Because you cannot be in the middle. Yeah. Are they intelligent or you are dull? So please ask again, Are you intelligent? What's the answer? Either been said. No, They asked, are you dull? OK. If the person says no to the first one, they tell that I'm telling you are dull, then put it to him that you are dull. If you are not intelligent, then you are dull. Forgive mercy. All right, so let's go quickly. If is there any question anybody would like to ask? We asked a few questions before the other session. So we've talked about how to have a certain type of image, isn't it? Yeah, presentation and all that, so that I carry itself and all that. Now is there any question on that area or any other area, please, so that we can make progress, right. Any question? Yes, yes. Bishop Zaki, out of curiosity, I just

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Welcome to track #22 of break forth and become who you can become. Praise the Lord, but in the meantime, we want to take up a few more questions and then just for a few minutes and we'll move on as God wills. So once again, intelligent people ask questions, as I said about you. Are you intelligent? Says no. Then ask them are you dull? Because you cannot be in the middle. Yeah. Are they intelligent or you are dull? So please ask again, Are you intelligent? What's the answer? Either been said. No, They asked, are you dull? OK. If the person says no to the first one, they tell that I'm telling you are dull, then put it to him that you are dull. If you are not intelligent, then you are dull. Forgive mercy. All right, so let's go quickly. If is there any question anybody would like to ask? We asked a few questions before the other session. So we've talked about how to have a certain type of image, isn't it? Yeah, presentation and all that, so that I carry itself and all that. Now is there any question on that area or any other area, please, so that we can make progress, right. Any question? Yes, yes. Bishop Zaki, out of curiosity, I just wanted to ask in regards to the, the is it a the nature service is is held? Because when I when I went to Guinea, one of the things I noticed is that almost all the churches, apart from the Orthodox churches, they have some like Sunday school, which is like a new believer school just before the the main service and in the course of the main. Service. Do they choose to have worship like praises and worship before the the word? Now I remember one of them came to my, they visited me in my church and they were asking me why do I have like a new believer school after the service? And also why do I do worship and praise? Because I don't know what that is. I just told them that, well, that's what I know and it's I'm not, I'm not obliged to change to follow what they are doing. So I don't know whether there's maybe a pattern, a pattern? Right, Reverend, what do you think? Please give the microphone to every night. It's asking that is there any pattern that we have for our chest services? Should it be, should we have, should we have Sunday school Bible study? Should we have praise and worship, praise before worship and the Word or praise and worship in between the wed preacher, let's say have praise and worship and the Wed Or is there any way or should we share the grace at the end or at the beginning? So at the end of the beginning. So it's asking what pattern? I think that's what I also came to meet and which one I will say is that what we do, what we raise our worship at the beginning till the. End. So he's asking about the Sunday schools. Do you have a pattern of having Sunday school? No. Before the service or after the service? No. School, all right. Yes. It depends on when the people come who are available to outstanding schools. They're available after the service, after the service, and then we have it in between the services. At language. Yeah, in between, because for those who have come for first service and leaving, we get them in between 1st and 2nd, those who have come in between 2nd and 3rd and then those who come after third. So that's how it's done here. Great. So it depends on when people come and then how much time you have. Because as I said, that's what we also do at the Kadesh. We have newbie school at the end of like at the end of second, second service, they go out there and have a, we have it at the end actually. Is that it? Yeah, we have at the end they join the Sunday, the new convert, they have the newbie school shortly after 1520 minutes and then they go home. Then the other service come, they also have it after the auto call or the newbie will join them and then they have the class and then they close, you know. So that's all we do and it's convenient. And then also with this, we also have other Kodesh because we have, you have the school, school of the Wed and projected and all that training. We have it before the service, you have short prayer, 20 minutes of school of the Wed or victorious living and then prison worship was starts and we carry on. But we try to keep everything within two hours. So if your Sunday school or whatever you're doing and based on convenience, but if it is too long, it it, it will be, it will be against a run of play. I think services should last for two hours, not more. You know, if it's beyond two hours, then it is way too long. Do you see right the Sunday service preaching the service 30 minutes, 35 maximum. Then we have finished preaching for Sunday, you know, So what what we do is what we practice what I mean what is convenient, but at least we are sure that we have some some prayer, some praise and worship the way and two offerings and then we share the grace. These are standard. If you can add anything else that may be dedication or this thing type of things, it's up to you. But we keep it within two hours, I think. Am I right? Yeah, OK. All two hours, Yeah, that's right. One after 5 minutes, two hours, the service must end because of the purpose of the Sunday service. All right, any other question. And also don't get someone who leads prayer meeting like A1 prayer meeting then the Sunday services. You know, Sunday service is not a prayer service. So if we get somebody used to somebody who used was leading prayer meeting some time ago at one of the churches when he starts to pray, you ran away even. If a new. Person comes the person run everything that you are some somebody killed a person. It was wild, but forgive so get a cool person and leading the premise in such a way that it will become laborious people have come. They stand for a long time for prayer long time for prison worship long time time they are they are dreamed. This is so started pick up slowly and nicely right. Let's put hands good for the Lord. Yeah, right. We are going through Anacazo. So we went through the reality that we need to have the people obliged to come at a higher level, which we are also saying is interact with the great and the small, isn't it? All right, so now the next thing is how do you necessitate make it necessary for them to come to your church? One of the ways you can make it necessary for them to come to the church is, is that if they, if they need a church, the church is, it becomes necessary for them to go to your church rather than another church. Why? What can make it necessary for somebody to choose your church? You don't understand. What we are doing is an exercise. Amen. What can make it necessary for somebody? The person needs to choose your church. He has no choice. Daniel Anacaso means go and make it necessary. I I think that the first thing to do is to to consider the location of your church. If your church is well located and. Yeah, that is one of the best ways to make it necessary. If your church is near them and they don't have money for transport and they want to go to church, they don't have an option. That's a church here. You get it. So one of the ways to Anacazo people is to do what? To be by them. I don't know what you are writing because everything is written, but you don't read it and you don't meditate on it. I don't know why you are still writing. You get it. Anything else? And I think also the setup of your test room or the setup. And then also your the the language, whether it's in English or a local language. Japanese. If they want a Japanese church then they choose you. How many people will want in Ghana to go to a French church which translates to English? Even the English 1 doesn't work. Even the English 1 doesn't work for the normal Ghanaian. So you can see that when they want to choose a church, they will choose the one that is near, the one that they can understand. It's not that even they are listening to the anointing, but what they need. They need God and they need a church and the church that is near which they don't have to take transport to go to. And the one that is in their language which they can understand is this one and then they go there. Now yours is in another language and yours is far away from them and you are going to do a crusade to Anacazo the people to come to the crusade. That is why your church doesn't get full, because your only understanding of Anacazo is that you have a crusade or you have a special Sunday and then you go out to the places and bring them and they all come in and then they all go away again. Because at the end of the day it is not necessary for them to come, even though they were looking for God. When there are, it's necessary for them to go to the one just by them any other. And I also think that the length of the service how how long you have your service. Because they need to go to work at 12 or they need to go and prepare land. So since this one is long and this one doesn't end at whatever, this is my only option. So all those things are Anarchazo. You didn't understand the book. Yeah, because you wouldn't meditate on it. And you want to prosper without meditation when the Bible says that when you meditate on it, you will prosper. And when somebody has meditated, and after he's meditated and he has prospered, he should redistribute that wealth back to you. And he does not want to redistribute. Yeah, No, You see, there are 54. I hear the classes, 6 December. 54 of them are from Lighthouse. 54 of them stand up. Last year we had 4643. It cost us. Amar. Where's Amar? About 300, almost 300,000 U.S. dollars to send those that class on the mission field, even that one, many of them or some of them feel that it's not enough and so on. But that's what it cost us, 300,000 U.S. dollars. Now this group is 40-50 something, so you can imagine that it will go up maybe about another 100 or 400, five, $100,000 if you Add all instruments banner, this, this, this, this, this, whatever accommodation rendered church do this, do this missionary here. Then all those that have gone will also like a church to be built, you understand. And each church that we built to lay a foundation, to buy the land to lay a foundation will cost about another $15,000. So, I mean, the reality is that 15,000, the 1st 46 that I've gone, we haven't even the old churches where we haven't built any church for them before last year's group that I've gone before all the international church, This one says, so I'm in Mozambique, I've got a church, this one says I'm here, I've got a building, this one says I've got a building, this one says I've got a building, etcetera. You see. But the reality is that as you become more, even if you say you want to increase somebody's salary by 100 CDs, you understand it's time so many more people. So it's when you are few, you get it. It's this easier. That's why I'm explaining to you that the season, give me a bit of a bit of volume here, please, that the season has changed. Even if I don't want to change me, even if I don't want to change, it has changed. It's not. It's not unless I'm changing something, but the parameters and the dynamics are changing and the dynamics are falling more to the individual to do well rather than for the system to supply things. Yeah, So you may, you may be calling for those because since I've been here, so, so, so I've got a build, we've got a building here, we've got a building here. You know, it's just changed the parameters, the dynamics, the issues are different, the figures, whatever. So you have to rise up and do well. You have to learn the things. If you don't learn it, you have to come out of the ministry and find a job somewhere. Yeah, it's not that I don't want you to be in the ministry. I really want to enhance all my camps and all that. I'm struggling to let you be out there in the ministry. It's very expensive, you see, and you have to sustain the whole big system, you see. So that's why we are shedding off. So we can. It's not shedding. We cannot carry on this way. So it's sort of like I I I don't, I want it. No, no, no, no. It's not what I want. What I don't want, is it? The winter weather is cold. So you, it's not as you, you are against warmth. You are against warmth. It is cold. Yeah. And everybody has to, I just said, overcome the coldness that has come for that error. Are you with me? Yeah. So brothers and sisters, the principles that are being taught, if we will not do them or apply them because, yes, we are having a camp, we are being blessed and so on. But to me, I'll say that I feel more wary. There's a certain wariness and almost a certain discouragement as I'm going through these points because I just look and I just marvel and I just wonder, you know, I mean, we have to have a camp. We have to continue the camp to go through out of leadership. After that, we have to go through a camp to go through leadership and loyalty. Then we have to how does this apply to you? How does this apply to you? OK, so you how does this word apply to you? So let's think about this word. So I mean, you can see that some people don't want to meditate, don't want to think, don't want to read. I don't know if you get what I'm saying. You want you want your chest to grow. You see all the people who came here as ambassadors when you look at them and you can immediately see this one, it will not even it will not even occur to him to see the ambassador. It will even come to your mind. And then the way he is, where he goes there, he will ask whether you ask whether he's the he's the driver of who? Whose driver is he? Is it not true when you see that if you were to, let's say, play golf, you talk about playing golf? So I was asking Pastor Soya, why is it that? Why is it that we talk about some, explain it, explain it, explain it. Even Pastor David was telling me that when he goes to the golf, the other thing, he's either an ambassador or his diplomat or whatever. Because a black, black person doesn't play golf in that country. It's not even in their culture. So immediately you join another group. So I'm trying to lift you up from the driver appearance, the appearance of being a driver or the appearance of being some other non ambassadorial. What do you call it? Yeah, You understand? Yeah. So you ask yourself, so if something has been told to you and you can do it, why is it that you don't do it? What do you think? I mean, what is it? You see? What is it? What is the answer, Ben? What is the answer? You're lacking sense, lack of wisdom, lack of understanding, lack of knowledge. You're lacking all that. OK. So it becomes necessary. All right, sit down. It becomes necessary for you to be in that particular church because you want to speak Japanese and that's the only church that is speaking Japanese. So all the foreign missionaries, if you practice within four weeks, whatever the language is, you'll be far more proficient in that language. Far more, you see, far more. I say practice. You won't practice. You get it. But anyway, it's a matter of become who you can become, isn't it? Or what do you think? Yeah, that's why I said that in this era, those who ask for things will become unpopular. Yeah, don't even bother everybody. Look at these people there. They have to be helped. They have been in that school for four years. How many of you been in that school for four years? I've been in the school for four years. When you finish, could you not think that we should help you to? We are. We are not just creating the supply of pastors but also working on the demand side. There is actually a need for them and a push for them. So we need not to be taking a laissez faire approach, but an active role in helping them to be in the ministry and to get started. Yeah, I will help them. I'm more happy to help these people, far more happy to help them than than some old dogs whom you cannot teach new tricks. I mean, some of you. Where is Sesarioso and then Pristia? Fred. Ah, we are sitting, sitting together. You don't have church, even land or buildings. Yeah. Pasani, please stand up. And Alice, have we not tried to get land for these people and building? Pasani, tell, tell everybody the truth. How hard I have tried tell them. I think we've tried several times. I've personally been to Seshioso, you know, to go and see and it's like, I don't think it was getting. So I think it was Seshi Bekuai, Frank's place, Seshi Bekuai that we got to land and started. But Seshi also know and Pristia too, Well, if they have now, I don't know. I've been out of the system. Pristia, it's also been at least once I was here. It's always been struggle. You know not getting but I don't do you think if I go to station you also to stay there I can I will get a land to buy I believe Do you think how many things I will get a land? So all the other churches in the area are St. Craig was stand up. Do we not have a building? Your building not being roof? Is it not at the roofing stage now? Ng stand up? Is it not at the roofing level now? Half Assini, is it not at the roofing level now where? Axim, is it not a roofing level now? You don't have. There's no land there. You go that way there. There's one more Hassan, Kirgua, a Facini Aim Chi Yeah. Or efforto. I mean, you you think that I'm going mad in a crowd trying for to get land to live family. So at a point, last I thought, Alice, anywhere we have started, let us finish it. Everything else, I'm not interested in the game. So all of you don't have. And I don't think I'm the one who's going to get that for you. Yeah, you see, some of these guys are even doing better than you, even in terms of church growth. Yeah, all of you who have been sent Jirappa, stand up Brahma as a Kumar, stand up a go, go. And where Tafo are, you know, how many people do you have? Tafo speak out. 73. 73 people on Sunday. On Sunday we also have children's service which sits 2022. Yeah, tough. How to find man, How to support this guy. Stand up. When you went to Pristia, how many people are there? 18 people. This one. Did you start your church? Yes. February. Yeah. Let's call it Haman. What about? How about how Axim Abraham. When he went there, how many were they? 13? Yeah. How many years have you been there in Azim? Two years. And also Brahman, as a Kumar. I'm 42. Yeah. And Jamal, when you went to Jamal's place, how many were they? Kingsley. About 30. Yeah. You see? No, what I'm trying to explain to you is that. And so maybe I've decided I won't do this again, but it's like you look at how many they are. OK. Last year's group that went out, just new people. Stand up. Let's see. Are your churches working? Yeah. In the North, in Quanta. Where's the guy in Quanta where? 106 now. 106 yeah, we will not rather find a land, build a child. 106 people, I think not that he's saying we went to. I've been in that church. That is that our student have spoken in that church before in a classroom. It's not that he's saying it. I've seen it before. So does I go stand up? Do you understand my feeling? What? What feeling do you think I have? The reality that the new season has come and a new season has come and there's there's even frustration in trying to get the old to to to match up. Yeah. So there's nothing really. Even if you wanted to change it, it will not be so as because this group is here, this group is when this group finishes next year by now another group is going to be standing here saying that it is something people. So obviously some other strategy which has to do more with you yourself rising up and doing well, not sending texts that we have seen a land, we've bought a land, so come and build foundation with whose money. So that's why its I feel sad for those who are from the other group who I was screaming in Accra get a land. Why can't you get something to buy in that town personally? Do you remember? Do you tell them you see? They don't believe it. Bishop, I paid visits. I mean, Pristia, I've been there. You know, not Pristia. Azim, Azim, I was there. We identify a land. I left. I came back to Accra. Then stories. I mean, Bishop, you've done your best. More than your best. Really. I'll ask this guy. Do you think if I call myself to this town, I will not find a land to buy? Hey Aishwarya, sit it down. We can't find a land to buy, you see. And I'm saying this because in the end, people feel that it is the head who has eaten the Bunny, you see that he should have given to these poor pastors to build their churches. He has used it to build a kodesh. Oh yes, use it for something. No, I'm standing in my house screaming and getting angry with the people. Why can't you find the land in this town where we have sent this beach lines? Ah, it's incredible. But I'm surprised to see that Jamel's group, they are having their business roofed and Pristia is. I'm really surprised because it came to a point where I said I want to finish all the ones that I've started. I'm going to finish. And last year maybe you should have seen Salas begging me. Salah, did you not follow me after the meeting? What did you tell me? Give him a microphone. I said that, Bishop, if you asked me to go and depend on myself, I'll try and do it. But did. You not tell me that all your mates who started the. Ministry, I was going to, I was coming to that site, but now the point is that all my mates that I started with, they've all built, they've roofed and me, I don't have those things. So please, I'm begging you, help me to roof mine. No roof built. Actually, Bill saw that we had this foundation, helped me to build. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you wouldn't believe me to. My greatest frustration has been to get people to get land so that we will build a church. You wouldn't believe it all. That is why I've come to see that. You see, like when you talk about, let's say the money that the rich countries have one bomb, you have a bomb, the bomb is turned from here to here. It can build all the roads in Ghana, one to make one as it's moving in. The airline that's so many $1,000,000 is flying and do push, push, push, push, finish, that's all. But they just keep on piling up their wealth because the poor people have certain things within them that cause poverty to be perpetuated no matter what you do to them or you give to them. That is why the concept of become who you can become comes in. And that is where when I come and I want to start and I want to preach and I look and say, OK, mega check everything. If I there is nothing needed new to be said other than the same thing that has been said that will not be read or the same advice I was given that will not be taken. Fantastic. That I rather support the new guys if I have to choose and they're going to do well. Yeah, because you see, we we have spent a lot of money for them to be in school. None of them can say that they paid school fees. Any day you want to kiss me, remember that the case will return back to you. Because for four years I fed you in that school. For four years, you may not know I provided the food for you and shelter and a bed and water, paid water bill for you. Light the day that you want to kiss me, remember it will come and stand back to you because for four years of your life I gave you inspiration education. I paid lecturers salaries, built buildings. Even as we are at this camp, I'm designing the school. The person who is designed is sitting in the room here from when I preach and I go, I go to discuss the design of that school and desire brought the person to sit there, etcetera. Sit here, we are building that school here. I want to build it be here. I'm moving from my client will come and be here and be working as I'm doing. I go to respect the class. OK, do this, do this, do this, do this. Come and I come back. That's what I'm doing. So the day that you want to say a bad word about me, a case will through your mouth and your tongue, you see what will happen to you. As I'm growing older, I also use my powers. Yeah, it's true. As I get older, I realized actually, that's why people, they kiss me when they are older, because sometimes you see what you have done, but they don't even know what you've done for them. How many of you know that I'm designing a school when I go out? You don't know. You think I'm going to urinate? I'm not going to urinate. I'm going to design your school. Why it would be nice for you to be so, my dear friends, you can sit down. OK? To drive Anacazo means what? To drive How? Yes. One other way is to create an environment that would allow all kinds of people to be in the church. You know, because often if you don't do that, you realize that you limit the church to a certain type of group, let's say only very poor people or only rich people. But you must create the necessary environment to the way you present yourself, your messages, the setup in the church, you know, beautification and all that, to make sure that if a rich man sees the police, he will feel comfortable to be there. A poor man can also come to the police. And then another way is also the use of buses, you know, especially the poor. So with the help of buses, the poor can you know. He wants to go to church. There are 7 churches. Only one has brought a bus. Which one will you necessarily go into? Which church will you go to? The one which has a bus, A free bus for you to attend, isn't it? Yeah. So that's how you make it necessary for them to choose your church among all the churches. Because yours is by them. Yours brings them free, isn't it? Yours speak them. Yours speak their language. Yours finishes in time for them to continue what they have to do, isn't it? That makes it necessary for them to choose your church. And I think another important point is adapting to the culture or the police. Now you, the person should adapt to the culture. Otherwise you look different from the people and they see you as a stranger, as we have said. But it should force your way to the knowledge of the language, even your dressing, your communication with the people, eating their food and all that, to become one of them. Then in that case, the right look, this guy is not different. He's he's from this area and they will find it necessary to follow you. OK. Yes, Pastor Kinsley, I'd also like to add. The fact that people generally need attention, they like care. So one way of making it necessary for them to be in your church is to give them care and attention because they, they people want to feel belonging. They want, they want to have a way of belonging to a group or a place where somebody cares. And therefore, if you give them attention, whoever they are, whether they are rich or poor, they all feel that there's somebody who cares so much about me. Why not? I attach myself to this person. It becomes necessary for the person to be part of you. And they stay and stay permanently. Yeah. Because there is no other place where they are giving attention. There is no other place where they feel important. You get it? So church growth, you know, it's like, where will I get this here? So I'm going there. Yeah. Amen. Are you there? So, brothers and sisters, you can make it necessary for people to choose your church. And the next one is to drive the people. How to force them to come to your church? How would you force them? How can you force everybody in your town to come to your church? That's a big daddy. How can you force the whole of Takradi to come to your church? That's a Richard. Take the mic show and ask the questions. I I think that one way to force people to come to your church is to go and bring them, move to town where they are and, and get them to come to church to speak to them, invite them and and and and and persist on your invitation and come. To do what? Go to. Move to town to go to town, you know, and maybe you gather your church people, some of them and you go to town, go to their shops. And in visiting them, first of all, even letting them know that there is a church and there's a church in this place. And you, you want to invite them, you are inviting them. And maybe you go this week, you go next week or even not even in weeks, 2 days time, three days time, you know, so that physical interaction with the people and actually, actually our visitation or witnessing or it's, it's like witnessing and moving into town. Your town, you're looking at the town. So yeah, the shops. I think of shops, you're thinking of even schools, you're thinking of offices, you know, and you've had invitation cards and so on. And you go, you witness and you invite. You witness and you invite. Being, being, being, making the church known and forcibly. You know, I I think it's one way. OK as Alex. Yeah, as how would you force people to come to your church? I believe by using the media, billboards, radio announcements, TV announcements. If it's a town, I think that is one way by which so as you are very. So when we go to a town and you see that the pasta is there, but he doesn't have a sign board, you see that he does not understand Anacazo. Maybe a sign board has even been provided for you if you are a passer with Anacazo, you even decide that. Let me rather use my salary to make five more sign boards so that everybody in this town cannot say that he doesn't know that Lighthouse is here. But you rather say that they said they were going to give me two sign boards and I'll be here for eight months. I'm waiting for the signboard. You have a comment on the signboard, OK. I, I, I met Reverend Jesse Saki in a in a restaurant once and he was with a visiting minister. He had just come to Takradi and he said, oh, this is the past all day lighthouse church. Then the man said, Oh, that church with the signboards. I've I've I've noticed them, you know, so he's like, he hasn't met any of us before, but he just knows that lighthouse is there. He noticed it by. So I think Samboat is a very powerful thing. So let's give finish I I think I agree. When, when you see a lot of, there are a lot of churches that when you see the adversary, there's like they're in your face. You would even want to go there and see what is happening here. Why is this person always on television? Why is this? Why do you see this person's picture, you know, everywhere you pass in this, but what's happening there? What's going on? You're sort of forced to at least go and see what is happening in this church. What is going on here. Like the Kodesh, you know, when I came to Ghana recently, I, I saw on TV people are inviting you to church. They break into their service and then they invite you, come along, you know, and, and then Bishop Saki comes and then talks to you personally that you must come to church, you know. So these are, and then also text messages. Like in Nigeria, we use text messages a lot also to invite people. We used to have a, there was a company that would send them messages, but now they don't deliver. So we do it personally, like you. We take numbers from people's phones and then we send text messages to them for Sunday services, for programs, conventions and things like that. So you can see you didn't get it. Everybody, somehow everybody we know knows about our church. OK, Pastor Peter going to help us. What have you been doing to force people into your church in India? Yeah, they were 15. They became 20 and they were 25 South other than three weeks. Well, it's more to do with invitation and just, I mean, area invitations. How do you do the invitations? I have a, it's just a small leaflet. And this is, I was witnessing near the campus. That's the University of Pune campus. So well, it's just an area that I can go to. So I've been talking to them and finding some of them at the hostels we've been visiting and we told them about the church and all that. Some of them to have my laptop. So I was able to even show them a DVD of our church, London and everything that save it. So I mean, I just showed it to them where our church was in London. We have a church in London, we have one in Australia and we are going to start one in India. So by talking to them, you know, I was able to form that friendship and be able to invite them to come. So I mean, all the ones that I invited, I made sure that they knew the place, you know, where we're going to meet and I'd gone several times to tell them. And, you know, just building that friendship and definitely keeping in touch. So I had the, I have the emails as well and I had their, I had their phone numbers. So I was able to call them and I think that was it. That's great. Bernard, you want to share with us forcing. Well, I think that people are normally forced to do the bathing, you know, if you look at, you know, the beer companies and all that. So we can also force them in a way to do what do you do? What do you do? What have? You been? What I do is. You speak English isn't it in your in the French country? Yes, Japanese, Japanese church. It's just I speak in Japanese. And. So what are you going to do about that? I'm going to go back and learn French are. You going to preach in French? Yes. So you people should see how camps stop being held. Do you understand how camps stop? And so why would you have maturity conference again? Because I don't feel, I don't feel so much like having it. Or you don't get what I'm saying because I don't. I mean, I'm not so excited. OK. Compel. What does it mean? Let me check. You have you applied it? You. So we don't really apply it. So you understand? How come Stop. So I don't have maturity. Oh, there's nothing like maturity conference this year. That's how it that's how it ends. You get it? I hope you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, because as I'm standing here, I'm bored. Not angry, bored. It's boring to me. OK, next one. Constrain. What does it mean to constrain Pastor Kingsley? We are constraining them to come to the church. I'm sorry. I wanted to add to the drive. Drive, OK. I discovered in the West, I didn't know that there was that facility. There's something they call Loca FM, which the politicians used to advertise themselves and then to solicit for votes. So I tried it once I think at Azim. I want to contact the local F. What I want to ask is why are you not preaching on your local FM station? Why? Why do you not preach on your local FM station? I was amazed it was so cheap. Why do you not do morning show on your local station in your area? Why do you not go there? Come and tell us the vision that you had. Take that microphone. When I was in Kumasi, when they had a vision, in the vision I was witnessing and I was going out and bringing people to church and that's how I was doing that. An Angel met me on the way and he asked me what I was doing and I told him I was witnessing and bringing people to church. Have you hear the back? I was bringing them one by one, but he was very, very angry and I was very surprised that he was very angry and he. Told me the Angel was angry with you that you were witnessing. Yeah. OK. And he told me that I should stop what I was doing. So I asked him what should I do and then he showed me this radio masts. Then he told me that I should stop going to going to town and bringing them one by one, but I should go and sit up there on the mast and begin to speak. And as I begin to speak, the people will start coming out of the houses. So that's what I should do. So then he lifted me up. Then he put me on top of the mast. So as I was there, I began to speak, and as I began to realize that people started coming out of their houses. And then the vision ended. Yeah, Busy. Yeah, because for most radio stations, there is nobody who is willing to wake up at 4:00 AM and go to the station and be doing prayer, singing, prayer, singing, prayer, singing, praying for people. Please let me finish speaking. I'm sharing a point. Who is ready to do prayer, singing, prayer, singing early in the morning? You get it and doing all those things, you get it. There's no one who is ready to do that. But you see a young person with energy will be ready to do that. It's like your radio station. I can do the prayers for the people in the mornings. And I personally know a pastor. He used to be in our church, but he's no more in our church. He came to see me, you know, some years after 11. He was telling me, he said hello, God has blessed him. So the main thing is that radio thing that he went to do because and he said that he wakes up at, he doesn't sleep in the night from midnight. He will be out praying that he he has to drive, go from his house to the station. He has to leave home at 3:00 AM. So to leave home at 3:00 AM, he has to be out by two, one midnight. And then he goes to the station. He starts from 4:00 AM to 6:00 and he preaches, he shares with the people, people called and he prays for them. A lot of people listen to radio early in the morning and he does his daughter. It's like he's working for the station. He said to me through that, so many people have come to his church. It's much that he started, you see, and the church has grown, you get it. And most of the people are from that. They know him. But he used to pray for them like that. Do you get it? So you see, it is another way you get it, and it's a more modern way to work. But you see, our eyes and our hearts are not awake to such realities, you see. It's almost as though you must not be on a radio preaching. Only Bishop must preach on the radio. Who said that? Well, which law do we have that? Do you get it? You, you may be able to preach, record your message and go about. If you preach and you record your message and you put it on the radio, it will not make people come to your church. You have to actually talk. Yeah, you have to actually talk. Even if you do that, you play the preaching. You have to actually talk and tell the people to call you and to text you now, and they'll call you now and text you now and you call them and they call and you pray for them and you minister to that. That's the one that brings the church growth. Like our TV program that we're doing before, I didn't bring any church growth. So we change it, which was Saki has to talk to the people, tell them to call right now. When? Now when we have a TV program, they don't sleep till the morning. Calling texts, calls, calls, calls, calls, calls to the morning. All of them. The pastors, if we start the program at 11:00 PM, by the time they think they can have 500 calls, is it not true? 505 hundred calls in the night, people calling? And since we started doing that, we sounded those, how many people came from the TV program then they all stand up. This building was after church. You come and see. So we have those who came from the TV. So that vision is a true vision that in this era, it is an area where that's how to anarchazzle is you are forcing the thing into the people when they put on the radio, you are the one speaking, you are the one praying, you are the one ministry. You are the one who is there at 4:00 AM. You don't want to get up at 4:00 AM. You don't want to be there and not sleep, but you want to prosper and you want a lot of money to come and you want to build your church and you want to do this. Now. Who is going to do that? Somebody's going to work, preach from money to evening money to evening money to and then share all the money back to you. It's not like that too, and especially in this season, it will be even more so not like that. You watch and see within the same ministry, you see some people become very poor and some people become very rich because that's how the world is. It's extreme to extremes with very few people in the middle. Yeah. Are you there? So Radio Brahma as a Sukumar, is there a radio station there for the local Local 1? I am on air on the local one. What about you? You see that that will not make your church grow unless when my when my program finishes you are there live 5 minutes. I want to pray for anybody who has this and that you speak to them. So call me now. This is my number. Call me off at 0246024024. You give them the number then they call you call me off If you want to text me 0277028028 like that you give them you give them that I'm available. Call me now. I myself will answer you if you don't do that plain Bishop stable and it doesn't make bring church go through, it makes some people listen to the message. That's all. It doesn't change anything. The media was don't do it in a particular way. It doesn't have any effect. So forcing people now includes media radio because Anakazo yesterday or some time ago, maybe you even close the service. Everybody go out and bring people to come in. It's not a bad method. It's a good method. It has worked before. As the years go by, there are different ways by which we will anacas of people. Soon every there will be nothing like television. Television will be computer. So television will go out of fashion to be replaced with computers. You just have a computer. It's a television. A big computer is a television. Television is a computer. Computer. You don't even see a difference between computer and a television. So at a time because the Internet and television, you will not even know whether you are watching Internet or you are watching television. It's just like telephone, it will be free. Soon every phone will be free. You understand when Catherine Kumar, professor that water will one day be sold. No water was being sold in a bottle and no one knew that in a few years to come, water will be one of the main thing that is sold in a shop drinking water abroad and also in Ghana. Do you get it? Yeah. What I'm trying to say is that Anna Castle also goes through generational changes, the method of forcing people to know about the church, to come to the church, to respond to the church changes as the season changes and as the methods themselves change. Are you listening to me? Yeah. So the way one day I met a Nigerian pastor and he was talking about a program. He said that they make a billboard, a banner, and he gets young men in town to wear the banner. The banner hangs from the back to the ground to walk in town with the banner. So everybody looked behind him and said convention, whatever, whatever. And they are reading it at the back billboard. It gets people to it gets people in their car with megaphones to be announcing. He said that if you say that you are in this town and you didn't know about it cannot be that you say you live in this town, you don't know about this program. That's their mind. Never, never can a human being say to us that we did a program but you didn't know about it. It would not happen. You said that is the kind of aggression. When you go to Nigeria, one of the first thing that strikes you is the presence of the church. Very forcefully. We are made conscious of different churches, especially some churches like the Communion church, some Ayurinde. Is it Holy Communion? It's advertising, Communion service Communion savvy. Holy Communion. Sunday, 3rd December. Holy Communion. Every light pole. Just like the people who are using a castle to their empty and Tigo. We'll be going empty and empty and empty and empty. Zen, Zen, Zen, Zen. Zen. Tigo. Tigo, Tigo. It's like if they're forcing you to see it. You see? But we will say you don't understand. We don't have the money that Tigo has. Shut up. Don't let me insult you. Don't let me insult you, I will insult you or I'll kiss you. Yes. Guess it's more spiritual than insult. Don't say we don't have the money that you have. You have what you need, you have what you need. And your local are a lot of towns with local FM stations it doesn't cost any much money to be on the OR if you approach the manager. So I want to do the dawn show just like how Joy FM have morning show or whatever from 4:00 to 6:00 to be praying for the people in this town for prosperity to come for your radio to put all the Christians in town will be listening to this station and it's going to prosper. So. Yes, I think it's a good program. We don't have any pastor who can come 4:00 AM. It means you have to wake up 32, do whatever. Be there. Will you do it? You are too old, too big, too lazy to prosper. Don't ask anybody to give you his prosperity money to share it. What do you think? Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. So listening to watch a certain aggression and you see our our church lighthouse and even even like healing Jesus Crusade. There is no town. Once you are in the area, there is no town. We have we have our own boat. We have we have our own boat which can go on the sea and can go on the lake and can go on healing Jesus boat. I'll show you a picture. We we that we used to travel. It's a it's a, it's a seamless boat with two engines that can go on the sea, go anywhere we carry. If you are on an island, we will be there. You said that you really know that there was a crusade. We are coming to you by air, by land, by sea, by lake, by river. You cannot say that you didn't know that they were doing a crusade. Yeah. So what I'm saying is that I noticed that naturally any aspect of them, because right now my main focus is the crusade. This type of principle, we use it if it's billboard banner, we have made banners, banners, banners banners ban. And it's we don't have the we don't have the money to make banner for every crusade. So I've made a banner without a date. I just like healing Jesus crusade healing know that when we're doing so. Ah, but you have to know that that doesn't matter. So we have how many 100 banners? And we put every town bana bana, bana bana healing Jesus Crusade that at least the people will ask where where is it and when is that program? Yeah, first Test protocol. We date, Banner, whatever radio station, I mean any form of intrusion to force the people. Why do you think that we have bought a boat? You know how expensive it is to own a boat and especially a boat that can go to sea. There are two types of boat. Boat that go on reverse, boat that go on lake and boat that go to the sea. It's a different thing. You are doing a church. I'm doing a crusade. You are doing a church. You will not use Anacazo to do your church. And now I'm using anacazo to do my crusade. Oh, you don't get it. You see the principles? They are there. You can sit down and just be there. Yeah, but you can also rise up and use every method to force people to be aware. Even a pastor in a car, if I was a pastor in Accra today, I'll go and find a station that I can do money devotion. So I just want to do 1 evil to bless the people and to pray for the state so that there will be the presence of God in this station so that God will help all the business and effort and investment that has been made here to prosper and to do well. Do you think that the manager will start? It is true. If I have a pastor here praying for the people at dawn before I start my news and other programs, do you not think that that the manager of that station will like it? Yeah. And he maybe have to pay you. Radio pastor and you call the people call me O 246-0230 to three. Have you not seen this? Our new Ashanti Prophets, Prophet Obinim, Bishop Obinim and Bishop One. Prophet One, Prophet One. He's a Bishop, prophet, evangelist, you know, boom, one. That's why Prophet one. Everything is one. That is why he's prophet One with a hat. You think he's joking? He's not joking. When he's joking. He will tell you that he's joking with that glasses and a hat and the church is full with palace and and then we talk in a way TV Africa, virtual TV, this talking they show miracle to everything and the guy will sit on his Cadillac after and say, look, my name is Bishop Obinim. This is my house. He's showing inside his house, his car, everything come to the place God has given them has all those he has given them to me. I tell you miracle this and that he will talk to you. Those are my favorite pastors on television in Ghana. And I'm not joking. If I'm joking, I'll tell you that I'm joking. My children sit with me and I watch those guys. I just, I just enjoy them. I just enjoy them. And when I wanted, when I went to do TV and I was telling Michelle, I told Michelle watch these people. That's how you have to talk on television. Learn it from them. They are the best guys on TV today. Yeah, yeah. If I'm joking, I'll tell you that I'm joking. They came from nowhere and they they are attracting all the crowds and they have the two experiences. We have got a branch at Kenyansi. I know the address. I don't know Kenyansi. Where is the person in Kenyansi? That's Bishop opinion. You see, yours is another Kenyansi station. When you ask for Bishopinion, everybody knows me. When you ask for Bishopinion, then Tema, we have another branch there. Then we have another big branch in where I shall portray this and that, and I'm coming there on Tuesday, this Tuesday, make me the everybody fuck has given me all that plate. I will pray. Oh, my number 0246, another 4646. Yeah. Oh, and you are sitting there coolly, coolly. You say on Sunday we are going to do an Academy to go and bring people from their houses, watch carefully in the system and see how people have made their churches grow. You see that is how come shops like UTC, Kingsway and others went out of business and gave way to shops like Malcolm. Because all that systems which you have used for years, which you think you are the king and you can never be overtaking, you can never be overthrown. Others come up with modern techniques and junior behaviors with energy, shamelessness. I mean you, if you look at Malcolm, you see colored lights flashing, flashing colored. You ask what has this got to do with the things that they are selling? Is that just is what modern people like flashing things, anything that flashes and they don't sell in the night, but it's just flashing with lights. For today's generation, they want flashing things. There is no film that Ghana film, you see that the scene will be there for a long time. Modern film is change, change, change, change, change, change, change, change. Yeah, King Temple. How many stations are there? There's one there. Is there somebody preaching on it? There are people preaching, somebody doing morning devotion. What about you, Messi? So why are you not on radio in Kenya? You have to be on radio. You're not serious. You have to be on radio. You have to talk. Tell them you're going to prefer God has given you the land. God told you to come. God has sent you. Tell them if you don't say, nobody would say. You think I'm coming to announce everybody listen to Obi. No, it's not going to happen. You have to say. That's why I said that it reach a place. You have to lay a red carpet for yourself. AOL What? Always learn new things. Yeah, you people are behaving like timid mice. You see, when you look at me carefully, you think I'm a Nigerian. Nigerians have churches in Ghana. Ghanaian don't have churches in Nigeria. Yeah, a lot of things I do is what Nigerians do. Yeah. Or you've not noticed. Yeah, Nigerians are all the Nigerian churches are here past that craze with branches, with branches growing. Witness this redeem whatever azimolo, whatever you see, but we see our nature as we are. Team Cool don't like trouble, they are just flowing. But when you do that, it doesn't make the church grow. That's why I say that the best person to teach Anacazo is a Nigerian. Even he should teach it by his behavior. And I think I have Nigerian blood in me because guns are originally from Nigeria. It's true all of you young guys, I'm releasing you to be on radio, television, Internet. Make a website of your church in other place. Why not make a website, Lighthouse Brahman Sukumar website, www.web or Facebook, Facebook, your church Twitter may I don't know all these things so, but I'm on it. Somebody wrote me a letter and told me that his son was on something, something Twitter, whatever. Immediately I called my my secretary. I said, what is Twitter? Put me on Twitter. Now I need to be on Twitter now I am on Twitter from today, put me on anything. And in Nigeria, my the blood is flowing in my veins. I tell you, yeah. And a kazoo passed away. Whatever it what is Twitter? Whatever it is, put me there. I said put me on Facebook. I cannot be something is Facebook. What is Facebook? I've never seen one before Facebook, but I'm on Facebook with more than ten 7000 fans just about. Are you one of my fans? Yeah, yeah, I'll be sitting there coolly. Yeah, For me, that's how I am. I said this what is Facebook? I was in my house. The children were discussing Facebook. This is Facebook. And I thought to myself, no, the latest thing in town today is Facebook. How come we are not on Facebook? And then when Michael Jackson died, so and the culture on his Facebook, that's something, something he witnessed. He said he didn't witness to him this and that. So, oh, I said Facebook because am I on Facebook? I'm on Facebook from today. Now start now. Stop everything you are doing. Put me on Facebook now then I had this letter. They said the number of religious broadcast for the on Twitter and something I said, what is Twitter? I said I called. They say they have also go ahead of Twitter. I said there is something called Twitter and I'm on it from today. And you, you are not on Twitter. You are not on Twitter. You want your church to grow and you want me to redistribute my wealth to you. When I'm on Twitter and I'm on Facebook and I'm waiting for the next one, I will join that one too. I'm on the block. I'm on the block because I was speaking to Marilyn Hickey. She was telling me I'm an older lady, you know, my my daughter and so on. They are doing that. I don't blog there on the block when I has a blog. OK, I don't know what is blogging. I'm blogging too. I'm blog. Blog me there. Now you are sitting there coolly. Don't get some of this anacazo spirit. Force your way. Enter things that have been locked out of you. You see, it's not only entering people's houses, going to schools to call people and knocking on doors. There are different ways to force your way into the system. Radio, TV, this, that. You don't have Internet. Be there. Be there without Internet. Threats. How can you use threats to let your church before huh John? Leah. Yes. You preach judgmental messages for everyone. No, just to threaten the proposition. Yeah, John, we're listening. Threats. Yeah, you're threatening. How can you use threats to get your church to be full? By preaching messages about hell and heaven. Will that make them leave the church? Preaching to your church members or outside people? Both. Apache, how can you use threats to fill your church? I think that maybe you can also go on the radio programming them. Not Yeah. Preach about. I want what? When we talk about traits, I think that one of the things that come into my mind is the fact that you may have to say something to not necessarily to put fear in the person, but to also encourage the person to do something that will benefit him. So for me, what I may have to do is to maybe if I'm on the radio, I may have to preach messages that would encourage people to come out to become something. Or if I'm to go out and witness or go to places, I may have to tell people the reality of not serving God and the consequences that to have on them. So by so doing, I believe that you may have some people following you. OK, Nebelson Messi, I would also want please. I don't have any way Bishop that's better. I think that with trade, one way you can use trade to force people into your church is drawing their mind into the time in which we are living in comparing the Bible days when Sodom and Gomal, what happened to them? No waste time. And also the fact that we are living in the same area and that the happenings can also help you to draw people into the church. When you emphasize drawing emphasis that this happened in Noah's time, it happened over here and it's happening right with us. That's what is happening. And also sometimes the happenings in where you are. I believe somewhere this year we had some accident on the Winneba Road and it was a nice opportunity for those of us over there when we went out to preach, I mean. Most prophets use threats. We and I mean it wasn't like even preaching, but it's like we are come late. Thank God that you are not part of those who died on the road. It could be you, it could have been me, but we have been spared. We use this road every day, go to our client camp. So it was like we had a casual service in May and also in July, and it was like Thanksgiving come late. Thank God. And I believe that it forced a lot of people to powerful come into the church. Yeah. Pastor Perry. The area come from. Which area is that? I mean a flower, the whole voter regime. I realized that the voodoo people use threats to win their people. That's why they are afraid of them. They are afraid to do certain things. So the only way you can also win them is to use threat. Example is they are telling the people that maybe don't sleep in the night, don't do this in the night, if you do, you die. So when you're going to win the person, you also have to use something, I mean a threat that they also know that when they do this, they will die or not like they they are afraid of the voodoo. So you. Have what can you tell them that if you do this you will die? They are afraid of the voodoo, but you are telling them that there is someone who created. The whole world, so they are afraid of this thing, but some your life, your life is in the hand of Jesus. So it is better to give your life to that person than to let the voodoo people lead you go. One day person obviously was preaching to somebody and the person said that the father of I heard the name Jesus, how to pacify something under my bed. So they are afraid of those things. So you also have to let them know that there's there's safety. Yeah, OK, Thank you. You see what you are saying is, is true in that in that world, you see, you have to use it. You see what, for instance, people who are doing funerals, they will tell you our tradition says that this our tradition. We have to take the body here. Our tradition. I've learnt from experience, when there's a funeral, the first person must say his tradition first. That's the one that will be obeyed. So our our church tradition, you cannot take the person to any hometown. In our church's tradition, if a pastor dies or a pastor's wiped out, this is the tradition. We cannot. The one who says his tradition first will be feared because people fear to break traditions. Yeah. If you say yours first, it will be followed. If you be quiet, they will give you so many. You have to do this. We have to do this. We have to do when you come and you say I have seen a skeleton standing at a junction with a pot to receive the blood of people traveling on this road, God has revealed it to me and He has also anointed me to break that thing. I saw the skeleton standing at this junction, this junction and this junction for all those on the way. The skeleton is standing there with a pot on radio, and God has anointed me to break that thing, to declare a fast and to break that thing so that that skeleton will not drink the blood. Yeah. Don't you think they will be afraid? And what I'm telling you is a real vision is a vision that somebody had. Yeah. And a lot of prophets, they prophecy, you may think they are prophesying false prophecies, but usually what has happened, you get. It leads you to know what will happen. So often they wait for something to happen and they know what will happen. They prophesied in a way like this prophecy. When the accidents, a lot of accidents happen this year. Then a prophet got up and gave this vision. I have seen a skeleton standing on the Kumasi Rd. holding a pot to be filled with blood, a cooking pot holding it to drink the blood of the people that are travelling on the road. You see, and, and, and there is, there is a certain mentality that respond more to that thing than to other reasoning and that Napoleon was giving reasonings and so on. They understand more prophetic things, you see. So learn how to move into such things. There are people and you tell them no, I don't know why when people sow into my life, their business is just increasing. I don't know why. Anytime they sow into my life. One day a certain man came and put a seat and I told him be blessed. The next day a certain lady came to pass Land Rover Discovery, the new type, the one that I'll go, go. And that guy, Montari Suleiman Tari, the one that those guys drive came to park one in my house. I don't know why. You see, the name Winners Chapel is a threat, is a threatening and a castle name. Because when you leave the church, you have to say I am no more a winner. I am no more a what? How can you say I'm no more a winner? You have to be there because you are a winner. You are a winner's Chapel. Once a winner, always a winner. So how can you say I am no more a winner? I'm no more a winner's Chapel. I'm no more a winner. I'm not saying I'm no more a winner. I know somebody who left the church, he said. I am no more a winner. Within three days, a skeleton was standing at his house. Robins came to his house. You see you sometimes you should ask these people who have had these visions, how exactly did you see it? Everybody close your eyes. Can you see a grey skeleton? And this guy very tall from the top to the bottom, holding a cooking pot, this round one with two handles, and he's holding it shining and it is filling with blood. Can you see the blood? How many can see it? That is a vision. Yeah. That is a vision. It's a vision. It's a it's a vision. It is something that you see with the eye of the mind. Yeah. And you see, what it is, is that the prophets believe it more than you believe it. So they say it with certain strength. Yeah. If you like, interview them and find out. Yeah. And they speak of certain experiences that they've had in such a way that you have faith, but you also have it, but you don't say it that way. Yeah. So learn to be prophetic so that you can use certain threats. Even in the church you have sometimes you have to use threats if you just know. When I was preaching and I asked this Bible students to stand up, I use a setting threats to warn them that as we get older, we start using that power that is left with us, the power of the tongue, the power of the old man's case over your life. Yeah, it's true. And as I get older, I feel it because I see what I've done for some people. And I look at it and say, you today you are pointing your hand at me, said I've done what? May the ground open and swallow you. That means that may your coffin be bought and may the grave that you be buried in made. May they start digging it. May they start with the pickers. That's what you mean, the ground. May the ground swallow you, because when the ground swallows you, it means that your grave has been dug and you have gone in. It has been covered and the ground has swallowed you. That's what it means. You have disappeared from this earth and God said that desert creatures and shaggy hairy goats will be occupying your houses. Ours. I see. All those are part of the complete message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. So you are so kind, so nice and nicer than even God, more forgiving than God, the God of love and forgiveness. Yes. Then you don't know God. One person said, if this is what God has done, then I will become a Muslim. And I said you don't know God. God can burn you in a fire, the same God who loves you. He can, He can kill your whole family as part of his plan for your life. When as Hudson, who went to China, 4 wives, he buried them there and six children. He buried all of them, 10, at different, different, different occasions. Yeah. As part of his plan and as part of the price that you pay to be there, they say you become a Muslim. If this is what God, if this is how God is, you prefer to be a Muslim, then you don't understand God as he really is. Yeah, that's where threats come in, because there are threats is part of Christianity. Now, what to you? What to you? What to you who does certain things? Yeah. So you have to use that one. It will stabilize your church. Sometimes I watch Orangus because I will never forget the Sunday in my church in the canteen. It's on a message. I think I was talking about a message called New Wave churches. It's called New Wave churches. There was a particular Sunday when I finished preaching. I cursed all Orangus. That case is a case, a perpetual case that is on the church. It's a case of rebels and all disloyal elements in the church. I've caused them, I caused them. That's the first time I caused them on that, and I've caused, I caused them again. One day I finished causing. It was a Tuesday service not so long ago. I caused that somebody, somebody made me have to say that. I've read it in Nabob, I've seen it, but I've never seen some a case being proclaimed before, she said. I've read it in the Bible, but I've never seen one before and that day saw it. So I just wondered myself. You watch and see. Yeah. So you need all these ones to stabilize the system. Me God has told me to proclaim cases before. I'm not OK because Bible say they laugh kessing. So kessing came to them. I don't believe in you have to lack kissing or kiss people and no. But if the Spirit leads you to kiss, you better open your mouth and speak it. Yes. Are you listening? Yeah. So Anakazu includes threats. And there are some people. What they respond to is not love. They respond to threats. They respond to injuries, they respond to fire. They respond to tribulation. Talking cannot change them. Tribulation can change them. Are you listening to me? What do you think? All right, Anadea, it means shameless. Anadea speaks of shamelessness. Amen. And many of us cannot do things shamelessly. Now, this Bishop Obinim, is he. You should all have a video of him. He epitomizes this teaching. He has no shame because he is not like you. You are a chartered accountant. You have your reputation, you understand you're a big man, a Bishop elect in a cathedral. You see, he cannot even speak English well, so he preaches in P When he speaks a few words in English, you will experience a bulletproof, what do you call it? Experience. You get it? Yeah. So I mean, the way he sits on his car, the way he sits outside his number tells you to call. Now come bring oil. Everybody do this. I mean, that's the shamelessness I'm talking about. You get it? Yeah. But what I'm saying is that many of us are full of respect, self respect and reservations. We are very reserved. So being reserved is the opposite of an idea. Being reserved, what do you think shameless means you are? You are abandoned. It's the opposite. For I am not ashamed. Amen. How can you apply shamelessness? But I therefore stand up and then ask the people, call somebody like Beck Queen, somebody who has not spoken before. Yes, how will you use the principle of shamelessness to grow your church in Cape Ghosts? To shamelessly pray for people that are done shamelessly. People fall on the streets shamelessly talk to people and our offices shamelessly be open to all forms of possible disgrace. OK. By Youssef. Yeah, I think shameless. Is this something that you do? Yes, I do. How do you do it? I do. But I I think it's not very intensive. And for me, one thing that I think I've learnt that I think I'll apply is from Reverend Kinsley, just as the testimony give goods to the shop. I hardly go to the shop. I just meet the people in their houses and then speak to them. But going to the shop and then just proclaiming that I think it's really shows shameless, and that's one thing that I think I'll apply. So you're going to do that now? Yeah. Pastor Leslie, do you apply this principle? I think I could increase the level of shamelessness that I apply, but I think I do in the sense that sometimes like even the name that they call me, sometimes the way I. Speak. When I'm preaching and all kinds of stuff to try and get in with the people and then going out on outreach I have, sometimes I just have to lower or just shamelessly just try and enter into the people. Yeah. How do you how do you practically use shamelessness in Zurich? I go out sometime because they said in Zurich, Zurich is a place where you can't talk to people, you can't group people because when you group them, the police will come and they can arrest you. So I have this one Cameroonian guy and a South African lady who sing. So we choose some of the train stations. The other day, the last time before I came, we went to LA Con station. So they stand there, they start singing, and as they are singing and singing and singing, people come and gather around. And then I have one German man with me. So once the people start gathering, we just preach for 5-10 minutes, 15 minutes before the people come. Then we move. And sometimes to, yeah, before the police come, we go before they'll call them to come. But we get some of them coming to church. Because the other day I was surprised when on a Wednesday service, I saw this Latter Day Saints guys coming and they sat down after church. They came to speak to me and they said there were ones around the train station when we were preaching. And then they heard it and somebody just gave them some of the cards we give out. So they came to church. And there is also another place, they have a lakeside where you go there and sometimes as the sun comes out, people come in swimming costumes and other things. But you need to shamelessly go there and then one-on-one, talk to people. Sometimes you go to places where you just turn away from there and then go to other places and speak to people because a lot of people, that's where they gather in Zurich. Powerful Master Daniel, do you use shamelessness? I, I believe we could still do more. And one of the things we've been planning is that we have this place where it's like a taxi rank where people come pick taxis. And we just noticed that people who launched their albums, and I mean, these small, small musicians, they just mount their speakers and then they just start to play their song they've recorded. And that's his plane. And people gather that they try to sell there are C DS and stuff. And then we also maybe we can also do the same. You know, we just come, we play music, we dance when people gather and we just shamelessly preach to them. No, we, we this what we want. So Saturday, this Saturday they actually have enough story. So, so who plans to do this type of prophet Obinim thing? You have just decided to go and do something like that in your town or your place. Anybody who has decided to do something like that, this type of prophet, obedient type of things and how are you going to do it? Yes, Pasakaris. Daniel. Hello. I think what I'm going to do is, you know, during the end of the month, there are taxis that goes from the whole town. I mean, I've observed it for some time now and there's somebody who announces he's like that is his work and he goes every part of the town and announce the funeral, mention so many names and this family, this elder, this elder, this one is dead, but the daughter of this and that. And that is a long thing. But the people go funeral that they announce the the attendance is massive. So that is what US Bishop was speaking. That is what I picked that I'm going to see. There's a guy who also lose father does that. So I'm going to see him. And then we have to be on the in the bus, in the in the taxi within. And then I'll be preaching, talking about the church moving all over the town. And I think that it will be powerful. Yes. What's up, Peter? I I had the opportunity to see this profess on TV when I came to Akai and I watched them. There were three of them and I was impressed also because I also thought that this is something that can really change the way the anti machinists because I have been reserved. So my mind of. What I want to do is that when I go, there are three stations there. I'm going to Max FM, well dressed, sharp, to go and see the manager and to talk to him like this. What I want, I want to do done prayers or done broadcast or done service, to pray for people and to minister people in the town. So I'm going to talk to him. Then I'll start. When I start, I prepare, wake up early, pray, prepare and then minister and then give people my number, pray for them. I feel that this is something I really have to rise up and do something very radical, otherwise I will become something very, very bad in Angie. And I think that the time is very urgent to me. So I want to do something that will make me come alive and then I believe I can move. I can move on. This spirit is coming. Yes. Look, Pastor Edward from is it where? Where do you come from? Obama? I also believe that when we go back, one of the things that we would really take very seriously is the the handbells. Reverend, you give us some handbells and we've been distributing them and we've been taking some to some restaurants at our place. We've taken some to some banks, we've taken some to some of the ordinary eating places. And we really intensify it and also try and make bigger banners to paste them on the poles and any place that's, I mean, we can place them so that it will attract people to know that Lighthouse is also in Obama Shaw and also to get signboards as well. And also to I also noticed that there are a lot of radio stations at our place and they speak Yoruba. So one thing that I has done on me so strongly is that if I go back, I should be able to lend a Yoruba very fast, as fast as I can. So that I learned I can, I actually know some of the words, but I don't, I can't construct sentences yet. But I, I believe strongly that with what I've heard now, I'll be able to, I mean construct sentences maybe by a year. Because I know that there are some Ghanaians that who just come there to work and by relating with the people, they have not consciously learned the language. They understand it, they speak it with the people and I realized that it's helping them for the it's helping them in their work. And I realized that for me, that's this is my work of communicating with the people and trying to get them to church, to help the church to grow. It's something I should even take more seriously. And so I believe strongly that it's going it's going to work and be preaching in Yoruba and also sinking in Yoruba. I believe that it's, it's one of the things I've I've been able to do. I know a lot of the Yoruba songs. And I believe that now I should move into the, the, the language itself so that the church and the people can identify, easily identify with us. Because one of the things I noticed was that they, they, they, they, when Reverend Kisly came to our place, they, they, they could not really recognize them very well that he's a Ghanaian because of the way he approached them. And I realized that if I learned the language, that means that they will not be able to even identify me, They'll be able to do more powerful. Yes, professor. Alas, I, I just wanted to add something to my brother from Enchi who says he's going to go on the radio and all that. I want to just give you an idea. What I do is, are you on the radio? Yeah. The last time you came, I took you to the radio station, remember? Yeah. You preached on radio. So when you came, you know, I do this thing. Take note of dates, for example, 6th of June, which is 6/6. Now 6 is the number of man. So I will say, look, 6 is the number of man in the Bible. There is 666. Satan even likes using that number. So this month either Satan will use somebody to destroy you or God will use somebody to bless you. So we want to pray and change things in the spirit so that God will use man to bless you. Now things like that would drop you. And it's also true. It's very true. It's not like a lies is the truth. For example, 777 of July. I mean that date is that time to gather people say look things that you are is not working. This is the day and the month 7th 7th. I mean things like that it will work. So I want to add that one too. Hallelujah. Yes, Pastor Aki, thank you. And I was just thinking that for Brazil, I noticed that the that when when they come on TV, they bring medical reports, the X-ray before and the X-ray after the prayers. So I was thinking that for I'll talk to lady Pastor Vita about it, that the people we have prayed for in church that have healings and all of that use that as the handbill right at the back. This is the testimony of this person and. He. Because he came to this church, why shouldn't you also come to? This church and receive a miracle. Right. That's a handbill, because the handbills we have now just has an introduction to the church, but really nothing about what can happen to you in the church. Yeah. All. Right. Yes, Pastor James Barton. Using the principle of shamelessness, every concerning the threats God has given ME3 experiences that I have, we are talking about shamelessness, shamelessness. What I, I, I, I tell my people is that when you become born again and you you were very, very bad weed smoker or stubborn or whatever, and I preach. To you, and you become born again. Then I tell them that. Today you Christian, you are born again. You are a child of God. Don't be ashamed to come to church. Don't be ashamed to hold the Are you using it in in to make your church grow? OK, thank you, thank you. Sit down, sit down and Akazo is important #1 it is important because a certain type of evangelism is not going to work in this day and age. It's already written that it's not going to work. So I'm reading it to you. Since you will not read it, I'm holding and reading it to you. Anaca #2 Anacazo is important because many of the people that need the gospel are not in places where they can receive bourgeoisie invitation cards. Yeah, you cannot reach them to give them cards #3 Dear Pastor, without anacazo, your church is going to be empty, which is what we are saying. Bishop Obinim, Prophet One. Their churches are overflowing. Overflowing. And they started. Some of them they started after you started and their churches are overflowing. Yeah, that's why every pastor must study Nigerian characteristics of pastors when they are doing churches because they really have this natural. I think it's a natural. I don't know what is instinct to flow in anarchazo things, billboards, posters, banners. I mean you think that a Nigerian is managing Tigo or a Nigerian is managing MTN Everywhere you go #4 without Anakazu, many churches are going to die and natural death. And then we should be supporting you and redistributing our wealth as you refuse to be shameless, false compel threat necessitate. You don't want to do it. Somebody who is doing it. When the more people come, more money come, they should take it and then redistribute it. On those who are sleeping dogs. Let sleeping dogs lie. Is there? Is there a proverb like that? Let sleeping dogs lie. Five, life is becoming more hectic as we approach the 21st century. Busy working people are going to have more and more excuses. The strategy of Anacazo will help you to overcome these excuses as we got more, more reasons why people cannot come to church. That is why Pasakakra recorded over 200 people who did not come to church the week before. Then who are the people in the church? There are more reasons why people do not come in every town. Charlie, if you don't grow wild, the world is growing wild. You get it? Yeah, right now on the Internet you can have big, big mama.com, blackmama.com naked black women with fat bottoms hippo virgin ibo virgin that is a Nigerian ibo virgin.com. Hey, don't go and look for that website. I mean, there are everything is pushing your face. It is for you, it is for you. It is for you. Do you get it? And you and I will sit down coolly for the world to take over the world. No, please. Anacozo is about being forceful. Amen. Are you going to be forceful? The one who is forceful has his church growing. That's why sometimes he said, I look at the cholerys, get things done and are able to make the churches work. Other fragmatists sit by with 1000 excuses. It's true. You want to say something? Yeah. Say without an akazo you are going. Church is going to die a natural death. The world being very aggressive. I think it's very true. Recently when I traveled, when I go out and camp, I'll see under my door in my hotel room a prostitute's picture, a telephone number and everything. And every night when I go and come, I have a new set waiting for me. I was thinking like 8. I think people are very wild old. And I was thinking that a church didn't place those things under my my, my door every night. But the prostitute didn't. They didn't give me one single rest and I realized that the world has been very aggressive, so we also have to be very wild. Amen. OK. We are going to close for the night, but I believe steps to Anakazu and Anacazo man prepares a great saffer Amen. And Anacazo man does not keep to himself but influences many people Amen. And anyone practicing Anacazo is not prepared to cancel his service and Anacazo man is not prepared to have an empty meeting. I see all these examples, they are old examples. He's not overcome by people's excuses. That's why some people write book without stories so that you have to create your own understanding for so I'm not in any bass where people are making condoms into balloons. So I cannot apply to my life. Step #5 and a castle man knows that many excuses are empty. He number six, he knows how many excuses are lies #7 he makes a way and does not give an excuse #8 he goes out of his normal circles of life. Anakazu, the man went out of his normal circle many times. Your increase is going to come out of your normal circles. A lot of the increase in my life has come out of the normal circles of my life. Look at ISI convention. It's a camp ISI convention. I went out of my normal circles, the normal circles of lighthouse churches, out to our USA camp. I'll go to England camp, I'll go to Ghana camp, Kodesh camp, Western Region camp, this camp this. I went out of my normal circles and I have thousands of people that feel the code. The ISI convention makes a narcaso convention that we have look like it's a joke. Is it not true, Pastor? Yeah, when you see the eyesight of it makes the anacazo convention that we have with revenues, we look like a joke compared to that one. But you see that comes by going out of the normal circles. So now I'm preaching interpreting to French. Is it not abnormal circles? It's not my normal circle. So what is the out of the normal circle of your life? Maybe you are not a student anymore. So out of the normal circle of your life, it's the students that are going to be with you. Some of the people who work with me, who are secretaries to be and so on, I could give birth to them. Some of them are as young as 20 years younger than me or almost 20 years younger than me. It's not my normal circles of life, but my normal circles were not prepared to do such work. Do you understand? So I went out of my normal circles of life to people who are not even my age group, people who I would also give birth to. So what are the normal circles of your life? You see, and that is the thing. If you are not prepared to go out of the normal circles and somebody goes out of the normal circles of his life to relate with people that he wouldn't have seen in his life, and he becomes prosperous and wealthy, then he should redistribute all the wealth to those who do not want to step out of their normal circles of life. That's all that we are having. You get it? True or not true? Yeah. Step #9A nakaso man is not satisfied as long as there is room, Amen. Without a nakaso, you are killing us softly and finishing the church. Amen. Yes, speak to the microphone please. Hello, Do we have a policy on the use of our church buildings for community events, let's say in the towns, let's say within Ghana? No, we don't have a policy. So can people use them? Yes. To increase the church's importance in the. Town, Yes. OK, Good, good, good. Stand to your feet. We closed offering. Welcome, Bishopsaki to receive the offering. You may be seated. Please don't go out yet. Let's take the offering and we can close. Hallelujah. All right.