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16 Church Growth And Faith Pt. 2

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
July 6, 2025 1h 52m

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Camp Title - Mission Africa ‘The Ministry of The Sower’. Machaneh Collection - 90. Preached in 2014, Zambia (Livingstone). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications

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Welcome to track #16 of Mission Africa. I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen? Do you want to hear it? I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen? Do you want to hear it? I said. I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen on the side? Do you want to hear it? I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen? Give me away if you want to. Do you want to hear it? If I make a mistake when I chose you, should I have chosen another person or anointed another one? How many times will I give you vision and powerful conviction until you don't obey the reason why? Hey, I'm asking this question. You take it to lightly. So if I give my life for you, will you give your life for me? And if I die for you, will you die for me too? And if I shed my blood for you, oh, what will you do with it? Will you despite my love? Or will you treasure me? So what is the point of showing so much love when I get so little feedback from the person I love so dearly? I want to know if it omits nothing to you. What I'm saying doesn't touch

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Welcome to track #16 of Mission Africa. I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen? Do you want to hear it? I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen? Do you want to hear it? I said. I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen on the side? Do you want to hear it? I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen? Give me away if you want to. Do you want to hear it? If I make a mistake when I chose you, should I have chosen another person or anointed another one? How many times will I give you vision and powerful conviction until you don't obey the reason why? Hey, I'm asking this question. You take it to lightly. So if I give my life for you, will you give your life for me? And if I die for you, will you die for me too? And if I shed my blood for you, oh, what will you do with it? Will you despite my love? Or will you treasure me? So what is the point of showing so much love when I get so little feedback from the person I love so dearly? I want to know if it omits nothing to you. What I'm saying doesn't touch you. Don't you care about my vision? The reason why I'm asking this question? You take it so lively. You take me so lively. So if I give my life for you, will you give your life for me? And if I die for you, how will you die for me too? And if I shed my blood for you, what will you do with it? Will you despise my blood? Will you treasure it? God so love the world that he can is only begotten. Whoever believes in Jesus, she doesn't perish but have to lie. And God come and death his love toward us. And while we were yet sinners, Jesus died of the cross. For sitters, the reason why I've quoted this scripture, it's because you forgot it all about this If I give my life for you, will you give your life for me? And if I die for you, will you die for me too? And if I shed my blood for you, oh what will you do with it? Will you despise my blood, or will you treasure me? Jesus gave his life for you. What did you do with it? Did you give him your heart? And did you love me back? Please give his life for you. What did you do with it? Did you give him your heart? And did you love it back? So shall I turn my attention from you to an appreciated person? Who would I take my love for granted? Do you know how long I've been waiting? Have I waited and paid for nothing? Seems like you never really loved me. The reason why I'm speaking this way 'cause. You broke my. Heart and you took me for granted. So if I give my life for you, will you give your life for me if I die for you? Or will you die for me too? And if I shed my love for you, what will you do with it? Will you despise my love for your treasure if I give my life for you? Woe when you give the life for me? If I shed my blood for you, for you, when you give the life for me. If I give my life for you. If I die for you. Hallelujah. Oh clap, isn't that beautiful? One day you'll also be atsaa talented solo artist. Amen. But I I feel that this morning a very major foundation is being laid. Can you sense it? Yeah. Many, many have stepped out to do the ministry without this. Yeah. And you can do the ministry without these things. It's possible to be a shepherd or a pastor working for God without the faith element. It's possible as some have already started doing the things without the faith element. But what type of pastor will you be? You hear Bishop mentioning 20 members. That's the level you can, it is possible to to to be a shepherd and not be a shepherd of faith, a man of faith. You can. You're not saying that without it you can't be. But the kind of result we are looking for, we cannot afford to take one step without faith. We need that foundation, Amen. And that faith we are being taught this morning about it's not feelings that if I, if you follow feelings, you wouldn't even do the things. Yes, without feelings you are doing it. Sometimes it's a you are sad, but you are doing it. That's a man of faith. Yes, your period has come, you are in pain, but you are moving out to evangelize because you believe that somebody is waiting for you, that if you don't go now and the person misses you, somebody's destiny is changed. So you take your medicine and you are outside, but somebody else is asleep because the feelings are not good. If you are a man of faith, you move and and act and obey. It's beautiful. Let's put our hands together once again for either again. Let's take a walk together with our Savior Jesus hand in handy and die. Let's cherish every moment Jesus gives to us. Oh, the time is passing by. I ought to pray. When I kneel down by my bedside, I ask the Lord to help me to obey His calling. If I could just please the Lord, I must cherish the love of God. I must cherish the grace of God, cherish his 30s, cherish his love, cherish the cross of Christ. I must cherish the chance I have. I must cherish the love of God or cherish the time I have to worry. Cherish these times so great. The world is long to die. No one seeks for God. Jesus died to save the world. So many lost in darkness. They've never heard of Jesus. Oh, can I help to tell them so? I also pray when I kneel down by by their side. I ask the Lord to help me to obey his calling. If I could just leave the Lord. I must cherish the love of God. I must cherish the grave of God. Oh yeah, cherish his birthday, cherish his blood and cherish the crown of the Christ. I even cherish the chant I have. I cherish the love of God. Oh, cherish the time I have to worry. Cherish these times. So great, you must believe you're calling to the will of God has in hand. You and the Lord. Don't think that you can walk away from your original calling. Your time's passing by. So when you pray, when you kneel down by your best, I ask the Lord to help you to your best. Call it if you could just believe the Lord. You must cherish the love of God. You must cherish the grace of God. Oh cherish his birthday, cherish his blood, cherish the cross surprise. You must cherish the Cha you have. You must cherish the corn of God. Oh, cherish the time you have to worry. Cherish these times of grace. Go into all the world and preach the gospel until your life is done. If you love him, obey the Great Commission. Build churches everywhere. In every town, every province, every city. Africa shall be saved. Tell me, how long is it gonna take for you to obey me? I have a feeling that I'm waiting to be for you too. Poor baby. I have a feeling that I'm waiting the baby for you to do my way. So I'm asking, am I going to wait in there for your love? AM I going to wait in there for your love? Have I got to wait and wait for you? AM I going to wait and wait for your life? Do you remember what I told you? I told you build a mega church and I told you have a birdie vision and your vision must be big but all you do is doesn't lead to church road because your mind is one other thing. I have been thinking, thinking to myself that I've wasted time for you. I want to change. Change your position, replace you and bring in someone else. Because I have a feeling that I've waited a day. Waiting for you too, baby. Oh, I have a feeling I've been away. Been a thing for you to do my way. So am I gonna wait in there for your love? Am I gonna wait in there for your love? Am I gonna wait in there for your love? Am I gonna wait in bed for your love? So why are you so hard? Why are you so difficult? Why don't you want to move? Why don't you want to change? Like I said, for a long time I've been calling out to you. There's always an excuse. A mega church. At the church you always have an excuse. More and more excuses. Honestly, I don't think that you love me. Your heart is somewhere else. If you love me, hey. If you love me, hey dude or baby. He would work much harder now. But I have a feeling that I've waited baby for you to all baby. I have a feel it. I'm waiting. Today is the waiting day for you to do what I say. God is asking you, is He gonna wait in there for your love or is He gonna wait in there for your love? Is he gonna wait in there for your love? Is he gonna wait in bed for Jonah? So is he gonna? Is he gonna? Is he gonna wait in bed? Ask yourself, is he gonna? Is he gonna? Is he gonna wait in? Think about it. Is he gonna? Is he gonna wait? How long has it been? Is he gonna? And he's doing. Wow, wow. Is he going to wait in vain? Hey Matthew Chapter 15 Is he going to wait in vain? He's got a feeling, I hope the feeling is wrong, feeling that he's going to wait in vain. Faith, mercy. Now I'm sharing with you about faith and church growth. All right, Part 2. Then Jesus went thence and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon. This little scripture is usually used for miracle services, but I'm using it for church growth today. And behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the coast, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, OO thou son of David. My daughter is grievously vexed with the devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away, for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent. All right, I am not sent, isn't it? But unto the lost House of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him. How many would like to go to Israel? How many have not been to Israel? You would like to go to Israel? All this side? I'm not interested in Israel. Have you been to Israel before? Wait, everybody put your hand this section. Have you been to Israel? How many want to go to Israel? Then why don't you eagerly lift up your hand? We want to go to Israel. Wow, are you suffering from hunt? Hunt pain, Painful health? Wow huh. We're going to go by God's grace. Glory to God Now Buddy answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost House of Israel. Is that where I was? Then came Shi and worshipped him, saying, Lord help me. But he answered and said, It is not meat to take the children's bread. Amen. To take the children's bread and to cast it to the dogs. Wow. And she said, Truth, Lord. Yet the gobs eat of the crumbs, wow, which fall from the Master's table, glory thy God. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, Oh woman, great is thy faith. Amen. Great is thy what? Great is thy faith, be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. Amen. Now notice this is great faith, and I'm talking about faith and the mega church. All right, Faith and the mega church, isn't it? Are you there now 4 pillars? There are 4 pillars of a pastor who has great faith and I want to explain these 4 pillars to you and these 4 pillars, right? These 4 pillars are going to greatly affect your pastoral ministry, your church growth efforts, your church growth efforts, your faith, and your great efforts for church growth. Hallelujah pillar #1 How many want to know the four pillars of great faith? Pillar #1 Travelling, travelling. This woman travelled all right to find Jesus. This is a Pyrophoenician woman to the coast of Thai and Sidon. All right, this lady travelled all the way to find Jesus. She was out of jurisdiction, she was out of her coverage area, she was out of location. Now a sign of low faith is when people are not prepared to move like those of you in Zimbabwe cannot come to the camp. I didn't write the Bible, so don't be angry with me, please. Yeah, unless you have faith, you will not move. And faith is the believing, the belief, and you believe the belief in such a way that you move to get something you can't see. By the time you are leaving here, you will be poorer financially than when you set out to come. Is it not true you'd have spent money? This is why it is a, it is a revelation of faith when you see somebody travelling for something, travelling to homecoming, travelling for iron sharpness, iron, travelling for a camp, travelling for a meeting and that is where you can see the evidence of a belief system that is there. The people that, oh Charlie, we are going because this is happening there. We are excited and they are coming voluntarily. So we will sleep on the floor, we will stay in the, we will stay in the car, we'll sit in the roof, we'll be in the booth. We are going. And this woman was travelling from far to come and see Jesus. And she came and she saw Jesus and she, she, she got what she wanted. And Jesus himself knew that this woman was out from out of state. Sami, this is not. He doesn't speak our language. He's not from here. Wow. So you can see when the pastor too, cannot mobilize the people to move because sometimes the people don't know much about what they are going to get at the camp, so they don't even know. So the pastor does not mobilize them with strength and we have to go to the camp. It's very important to change your life. How many believe you have been affected at this camp? Yeah. So supposing many more other people were here, don't you think it will help the church when you go back? You don't have to talk much to them. You understand what you are saying immediately. Yeah, You see that as we are even staying here, you are becoming more disciplined. When I came, at first, when I'm preaching, you'd be talking. I don't know whether those people are still here. Yeah, they've changed. Why are you so difficult? They've been converted, translated. Yeah. Then you change that change comes so, so, so you see that those who understand the invisible things you are going to get from what you call it from, from, from, from, from the invisible realm and who have faith they move. That's why I traveled to Korea to see Yong Gicho travel all the way. I traveled to Tulsa The first time I went to Tulsa, I tell you, I'd sat on so many planes. And finally, the smallest plane I've ever sat in with a propeller too small to arrive in Tulsa. Tulsa, OK. Yeah. I'd never rented a car before. I rented a car, never driven in America. I had to drive, and I made drive myself. Rent a car, go find the hotel, stay there. Go to the program, sit there, listen to Kenneth Higgins from far. When I got to the when I got to the hall, Asha was asking me upstairs. I said, listen, I came from far away. I'm not going upstairs. I voluntarily took money and came here. Nobody forced me to do that. I came here with the belief the nearer I am, the better. You cannot send me upstairs. I I heard the Asha was a wife. I asked her. I said, where are you from? I said I'm from. I love some Romanian somewhere. Yeah. I said, listen, I've come from Africa. I cannot go upstairs. What are you talking about? Yeah. I'm not going upstairs, there'll be a seat here and I can't go there. You see a travelling, being able to move people, people moving for meetings. It shows the faith they have. They believe the belief of something in them. Yeah, it's true. So if you are a pastor and the people under you don't go for a meeting, it's a shame to you because it it shows you have not been able to impart faith to people. Because if it if, if, if you're coming, there's no even money. You even you even say, look, we are here, one dollar, $1 billion buys 1 egg. We don't have money, but we will never miss the camp. No matter what, we we will be here because there's nothing like a campus camp. No, we are not here. Even if we don't have money, this camp cannot pass us by. After all, since the check began, when had Bishop come to have a camp here? It has never happened before, started 25 years ago. How can we come and say that the majority of the people will not attend and come near the camp? There's something very wrong with that, and it shows a lack of faith in the spiritual and in the unseen, a belief in things you can't see and you can't understand. I'm telling you when God was telling me, look, faith is important. You are praying for humility and all these other things. Faith is very important. Without faith, you can't make God happy. The Bible does not say without humility, you can't make God happy. He says without faith, you have to believe in things. You have to believe in things. Are you listening to me? So traveling is a great sign. And I travel to Korea. Yeah. If I hadn't traveled to Korea, sit down. If I hadn't traveled to Korea, a large part of my ministry wouldn't have come on. Doctor Yongicho came to dedicate my church. Since I've been connected to Yongicho by travelling there. I've been to South America, Malaysia, Singapore, Japan, and I'm not to preach to Ghanaians, to the people from those countries. Even up till today, my just that one Jelly that I took to Korea. When I got to Korea, I found a bus. I didn't know anybody. Found a bus and went from the airport to where the church. I found a hotel by the church. Stayed in that hotel with my wife and I was there. I tell you there were seven services. I attended all the seven services from 6:00 AM to 6:00 PMI was in the church, attended. Everyone went through the offices, went wrong, investigated, asked people speaking in Korean to speak English, communicated. Look at everything. But yes, a man of faith, he travels. There is no way that is far for his spiritual quest. It's actually an indication of his faith. Oh yeah, I'm telling you, it's an indication of the person's faith. When you go to this one couldn't come, this one didn't come, this one couldn't come, it shows that person's faith has gone down or it's not there. That's why when even Jesus, when this woman was shouting, he says send this woman away. The the people, the people said to send this woman away. He didn't send her away. He didn't mind them. You know, he noticed that she had troubled. So when she came then he told her he told her that another legal reason that even the desire position didn't know that apart from the fact that you were disturbing us. You are not part of my calling. I cannot be just ministry power. I don't share my power to people who are not in my in my calling. But he didn't say that I will. He recognized the act of faith. So this is the last session and God is showing you. This is the last few minutes of the camp. God is showing us. God is showing you the importance of travelling. Most of you have never travelled. He's never travelled before. Yeah, you haven't travelled before. Number one that makes you. Have what we call spiritual glaucoma. Do you want to know spiritual glaucoma? When you have glaucoma, the pressure in your eyes is high. But what happens is that when you open your eyes, you can see clearly and far as everybody else. But what happens is when you can see, you can see to the side, but it gets smaller and smaller. So you can't see to the sides because you have glaucoma. So the fields that you see smaller and it's not only important to see, it's also important to see wider. So if your eye become like this, you say I can see, but this is different. Amen. So some of you, are you listening to me, some of you have a problem with spiritual glaucoma in the sense that you don't see whites. And that is one of the things that we do when we are trying to train people to be bishops. Because a lot of things I do, people don't know what I do. They think I only do visitation prayer and preaching. Do you understand? But there's a lot more to being a leader in the church. You need wideness of understanding. And you are here in Zambia, you've never been anywhere before. You are in Zimbabwe. All you know is Zimbabweanism and Zambianism and Malawianism. You understand? Why do you think I came to, I came here with 21 people. What what do you think? Why do you think I came with the 21 people that I came with? I'm trying to kill them of glaucoma, spiritual glaucoma, that they shouldn't have analogous. Some of them only know something small in Ghana, but they should also know like yourself, like they should also know something elsewhere, you know, because the world is not only Ghana, it's not only W Africanism, there's East Africanism as well and Southern Africanism. There are Zambians, there are Zimbabweans, there's Mozambicans, there are missionaries, there's other things apart from the small one that you know. So travelling is so important. You know, you change. My whole ministry changed by going to Korea. Look, I've been invited and not just when I say, but they pay for me to fly there. They paid for me to Venezuela, to here, to to to Colombia, to whatever I mean by one traveling that I traveled. Yeah, whilst I was in Korea, a man came to me and said I'm inviting you to South America. Yeah, from then I've always invited. Every year they invite me. Wow. So what I'm explaining to you, my dear friend, is that your failure to travel widely and to travel for God is actually a sign of not no faith. But you see, I'm not teaching traveling as a product of widening your knowledge, but I'm teaching as a sign of faith. You see the faith thing, everything that you do by faith has a very good reason behind it. But it is faith when you don't know the reason and you are doing it. That is when it is faith. Are you with me? It is faith when you don't know the real good thing that is going to come. Like, let's say heaven. Like I hear that heaven is far beyond what we can imagine. I hear when you get there you want to run back and do certain things quickly, but you can't come back. You get what I'm saying? But so faith is like to do those wild things as though you've been there, you've seen it, you know it, and then you are just operating, but it's like you've never seen it before. Yeah. Look, if Jesus was to appear to me and tell me certain things to do in the ministry, I feel so much more confident that he hasn't. So I'm just going by faith, but that gives me a greater reward. Have you heard of Stevie Wonder? I just called to say I love you. Yeah, that guy, somebody told me when he came to the church, he came to play the piano. We're having church and he played the piano in the church. And somebody explained to me, he said that he's not such a good pianist, but because he cannot see and he's playing, it's fantastic. That is apart from everything that he's good at doing. Yeah. The fact that you can't see, but you can play the right notes and play live at a concert. When Michael Jackson died, he played. He played live, I mean, for a long time. He played a long song at Michael Jackson's funeral, I tell you, sinking on his own with strength and playing and sinking and playing all scales on the I mean, those who even have eyes to see when they play the scales, they tell it to go off. Hey, so the greatness is in the doing of the thing when you can't see. That's not the point I'm trying to make. So your faith is great. Like to travel when you can't see why, but later on, you may see why. Like I'm giving you a reason at all. I travel and it has even increased my ministry, Yeah, you know, even increased my ministry and many, many other things, which I won't say that it has done for me by just one travel. So don't be a leader, Lawrence, over people who will not let them travel. Don't be a leader of such people. Then you are a bad leader. If the people you cannot make the people look at the people I have made to travel. And I told them, if you are coming, you pay for your whole hotel. You pay for your own this, your own everything. Pay, Come and let's go. You should see how they are dying to come with me. Pay. You come and say I don't have money to pay for all these things for you pay and let's go. When you go, you pay your hotel, you pay this, you pay everything. Let's go. Yeah. Excited to come. It is beneficial to travel. I I can make people travel even though they are paying it for themselves. It's a blessing. Yeah. If you need it for one hour, Yeah. And you cannot come from here to here with a car. Oh, my. Who are those here from Bindura? Stand up. If you're from Bindura, These are Bindurides. Who are those from Harare? Sit down. Who are those from Harare? Yeah, you should have been more than this. OK, who are those I came with from Ghana? Start sit down. Those I came with from Ghana, some of that are the back there, the other back there. Those are the back come to the front so that they see that you are more. Yeah, it's more than Harare. Those, those who came from Harare stand out. Let's see if you are more than more than us Harare people. You see, we are. We are. We are more than you. Saddam, Saddam, Saddam, Saddam. Traveling is a sign of faith. Everybody say faith. Don't think about what you are going to get. Think about the faith part of it. We'll get something I can't see. Don't let me entice you with money or entice you with earthly things to make you feel like traveling. Bishop said when he travelled, he prospered. Bishop said when he travelled he had this. Bishop said when he travelled and he was there. Bishop said that then you always, always need to see, understand and hear the second way before you obey. Always. That's why you have no faith and you are not getting greater in the Kingdom. Pillar number one is travelling. Pillar number 2 is communication. The Bible says that this woman, when she came out alright, she cried. She cried. You see, your cry is a sign of your faith. Your community isn't even asking a question. Let's say you are going to employ somebody or going to take a decision or you are going to move the chest from this hall to that hall. Your faith that you are a sheep. You believe that you are a sheep and you have a shepherd who even make you ask a question. But because you don't believe and because you don't believe, you don't obey. You are not, you don't even think so. You don't even think you need advice. You don't even believe in the man of God as somebody who has an input to making anything that you are doing. That is why when you are going to do something, you don't even ask your pastor or even suggest or even mention it. It never even comes up. You are just your own man on your own, isolated, in a cocoon, never communicating, never asking, never crying out here is Jesus, here you are. You look at this person and I hear that he's a hero. I hear that he's like the guy, but I hear that he's heals. Don't. If you ask that some of the ashes will come and beat you. Don't ask him. Just be quiet. You know how they are. You know how he is. I hear that he's at you. He's the one going, isn't it? Shows an evil mind that you don't even ask. She cries. She cries, I want your contribution in my life, Mr. Jesus, man, I hear you be healing and other towns and I'm here. I say I need your contribution in my life now. But that man who has more faith and has an evil mind, you'll never hear from him. Answer a person who say he heals, he heals somebody here, he heals somebody there, you see. But when you ask them right now, you see what they say, let them pass. We don't know how they choose the people who they hear. I don't know how they choose those who they hear. I hear it doesn't like women are only men. All the appointees are men. We women, they don't they don't like her. Yeah, Yeah, I hear there's only, there's no woman in the Facebook. Didn't work. Wow. You see you, you will not text, you will not fax, you will not WhatsApp, you will not Voxer, you will not e-mail. You know, Viber, not FaceTime, you do not Skype, you do not call, you do not Instagram, you do not tweet, you do not Facebook. And once again, is there Tango? No Twitter? Nothing. You are just there. I hear that. Yeah, I hear that. And you like whispering. You like whispering, You like talking under tone. You don't want to be heard, rather, when you speak, you'll be noticed and you'll be taken seriously. Amen. Sitting there whispering in Zambia, whispering to yourselves in Zambia and in Zimbabwe, making comments. When Pastor Lee was here, we were better off. When this was here, this was that. When Pastor so and so was here, there was this you sitting there whispering, whispering, saying things, making comments instead of crying out for the the most important person to hear what you are thinking. She cried out. Jesus, son of David, have mercy on me. Instead of sitting there whispering to your friend, whispering in that corner there, that dirty corner, Chris training, creating darkness and coolness of discussing evil memories and disputings. Cry out to the person who is here. Don't be whispering undertone. Yeah, I hate people who will talk undertone. I hate it completely. I might see that thing. So always something. You always have something quietly saying, talking quietly under. It's a very dirty and evil thing, Ali, that you should fear people who speak and that tone and don't want to hear what you are saying. Fear them. She came out of the coast and cried unto him, not unto her friend, saying, Have mercy on you know, thou son of David, my daughter. She cried to him, kind to the neighbor, your house, your husband, your wife, or your friend whispering when Jesus is himself passing. Like yes, they are disciples. Jesus was always with people and she made him here. Huh. Shame on you, shame on your whisperings, shame on your undertone talkings and your undertone comments. You see, spiritual things are spiritual soul. You may not say to my head, but I feel it and I perceive it in my soul and my spirit. Oh yeah. Finally, I was a leader of a group. You know, they, they voted for me and made me the leader. It was a, it was a vote and made me the leader of a group by a vote. After I was voted in and I started to take decisions, I, I LED off somebody who was appointed, who had been there before. I came, I laid there off. I changed the location of the office. I said move from here, we are not going to pay this rent. I took decisions like how I take decisions to improve things and improve their finances and I took certain decisions. Then immediately I saw that the people that were there before me were whispering about me. One day I went for a program and I met them. I saw them coming. They were all. And I could even see that they were talking about me. I could feel it. I never heard even a word, but I could feel it. Yeah. Within two weeks, I said to myself, I have been a leader for some years. This is not the time of my life to be leading people who are whispering about me and memory for me. And I took my letter and I resigned after I have been voted in for some years. I resigned within a few weeks. I said take. I don't. I cannot lead people who whisper, who disgust me, who are Grambling, who are not happy. I will not be your leader. I refuse to be your leader. Yeah, that is why we sack. If I in that case, I sack myself. But if it's my church, I will sack you. I will not sack myself. I will sack you from the church and now it's not my chest. So I I sacked myself. But the Bible says a scorner is some who doesn't believe in you. That's why it's whispering and saying things. But I don't think that's a scorner is mocking doesn't believe in what you are. Although you are saying it's also saying something in the head. I don't believe what you are saying. And the Bible says cast out the scorner Castor. Don't meet, have meetings. Cast him out. Suck him. Suck them. Remove them. Wipe them out. Wipe Osama bin Laden out. We have to make our own lighthouse toilet paper. Wipe out. Wipe out rebels. Wipe out this royalty. Now let's make some toilet paper for iron shapelet iron. Wipe out those who pretend. Those who forget. Wipe out those who are disloyal. Wipe them out. Yeah, those who are dangerous sons. Wipe. You come. Let when you come for an answer, you buy one toilet roll. You see? Very nice loyalty. Toilet paper. Swipe them out. Look, all these things can be felt. Yeah, they can be found. Amen. When you believe, you see people who pray believe that God listens. So that's why a man of prayer is a man of faith. But if you don't believe God can do or will do, then why are you talking to get out of the move and start doing things. So it takes faith to pray. So you see a man of prayer not knowing that he's actually a man of faith. A man of praise, a man of faith. You are here. He believes the belief. Wow. You know I'm giving you the four pillars of faith. Pillar #1 is what? Travelling. Is it not? Is it not, Is it not true that when you travel that you believe there's something, that's why you are going for it. And then communication for the second pillar. Yeah. Is it not? If you believe, you will speak. Yeah. If you believe I'm a good person, will you not ask me? Will you not stop it? So, Bishop, can I? Whatever, whatever. Or if you think I'm a bad person, you just be. So, you know, I hear his whatever. I hear that this and that. Yeah. Bishop is. Oh, whatever, you know, you know that he's a white man. You know that he's a white man. Yeah. That's how people talk. It's evil. Yeah. Wow. So yesterday when we were going to close for lunch, we said we were going to close for one hour. Then we asked you from here should it be whatever and as soon as some people said no we need 2 hours because we are going to the other side, as soon as you said that was the end of it. So yes, two hours, that's all, rather than. Just say, just cry out yourself within two hours, that's all. That's all. And there's nothing else to win. There's nothing else to win. What's your problem? Just communicate. Just say cry out and speak. Don't speak to your lecture. Talk to the person who is important. Did we say that those who said, well, they wounded two hours are evil people? Have we ever even made a coincidence that just say, just say. What is the issue? There's nothing bad. There's nothing wrong. That is why when you watch Whispering, your silence is a revelation of something wrong with you. It's a revelation you lack faith. You didn't lack faith in the person who sent you. That he's kind. You don't believe that he's kind. Don't believe that he's he's a good person. Don't believe that he understands. You believe he doesn't understand anything. You don't believe you believe in some way. You is a wicked man. Really. He's a he's a fool. He's a bad. He doesn't understand what's going on on the ground. He's a difficult person. That's the meaning of your silence. That's the meaning of your whisperings. That's the meaning of your little. Pillars of faith. What's the pillar #1 Travelling pillar number two. Pillar #3 humility. Yeah, this woman said that Jesus insulted the woman. You see, you see, you see, when you hear preaching, you can take it as an insult. You see, when you say the dogs are what it is not right. And because Jesus was given an analogy, it is not right to give the children's bed to the dog. I mean, I don't know where you come from, but in my village somebody will buy armies, stand up and say you are calling us dogs today. Are you calling us a dog? Is that what you call us? You call me a dog because I came to your church, because I came to ask for administration of healing. You call me a dog. He's calling us dogs. He says we are dogs. Everybody listen. He doesn't respect her. He says we are dogs, we are dogs, we are dogs. Here. Take your healing, take your, Take your ministry, take your salvage. Here, take your healing. You say I am a dog just because I came to ask you for whatever. Then you call me a dog. Is that? Is that how to talk? Or you see somebody? And did you know where I I came from? In my house. I am also important. I am important. That tire side of where I came from in Sarah Felicia, they call me Madam. Now, you can't have that just because I came to see you. You call me for Swahili. Yeah. Take your healing. Take your salvation. Take your everything. Is that not what I don't know. In your village? Do they also talk like that? In my village, that's how they talk. In your village. I'm sure they also speak the same way. How do you call me a dog? And before she realized, she would have called her friend. Listen to something. How do you say you call yourself a man of God? God. No, such a man of God. I say that I need prayer and you say I may talk. Is that how a pastor should talk? What were you? What were you obtained? Is that how a pastor should talk? Don't tell me. Say you are a man of God and you I, I, I call you, I say I want whatever and look at what you what you are saying. Is that how to talk as a pastor? Nonsense. Here, take your healing. But the woman said I'm a dog, I've accepted it, but please, I still need your helium. I'm a dog. Even though I'm a dog. I like it. I'm a dog, but I want the helium. You see faith, Jesus said I've not seen great faith. It's like she, she sees him so great and herself solid. You see, when you see yourself small, you see there are two ways to make something great. Like if you want, if I want Silas to be a giant, Profess Silas to be a giant, you see. No. Yeah. OK. One of the ways is I can put him on a chair. Yes, I can put him on a chair. And it's getting bigger, isn't it? It's getting bigger, isn't it? You can't stand by him. He's getting bigger, but another way to make him very great. OK, so come back to normal life. So let's stand by him. No, no, stand by him here. This is this is normal life. Now I want to make him great and powerful. Two ways. 01 is that I make him go. You go up now go up on this, stand on. Yeah, it's great. That's one way, OK? For him to be great, that you can believe you believe in him. He ministers to you, minister to him, powerfully minister to him. Wow. OK, OK. Now another way to make him great is for you to become small. Go down small. Yeah, very small. You see, like when you humble yourself, you become very small below the test. The test becomes very great. Now minister to him. Say again? Yeah. It's a new way of play. How you blow. It's your hand. Hey, Charlie, it's too powerful. Literally wow. So in two ways a person can be great enough to be a blessing to you. One is by the person making himself very great above you and the other one if you come very small below you see so this woman demonstrates or made Jesus very great and made him powerful and big and and that showed her great belief in that he was so great. I'm a dog. I'm not more than a dog. It's true. I'm a dog, you know, and, and also that when you are not offended, it shows you half faith. Like if, if I, if I shout, like I don't shout at everybody, but there are some people that if I feel like shouting, I will shout because of the belief that they have in me of, of what I am to them. So my shouting at them wouldn't whatever wouldn't be much of a problem. When I shout, it's like, oh, a father has shouted at you. You have to just I mean, that is flow. You better flow your smile to come immediately and your your smile should come immediately and your your face should be straightened. But when I don't sense that I have that belief from you, I would rather take my time with English words and careful protocols not to shout at you or to make a mistake of. Yeah. So even when I came to this camp and they were firing with the guns, I told the people challenge don't fire with the gun. The way the people looking quiet, you don't know the belief that they have. Yeah, because in our village where I come from, we fire on people easily. So we don't know the belief that they believe. Yeah. So I said be careful because to somebody to be our offence go to have not been to go to a conference in the power town do know the amount of money I used to do my hair before I stayed here as I've done my hair. I come here. Are we children are we children come and then you you are speaking. I'm listening to what you are saying. You just get up and you just come and pour water on water on me and I was not sleeping. I was looking at my Bible and even if I'm sleeping. Is it the first conference that I've I've been to in the world. I've been to many conferences. No. And. And if I fall out, if it's not my right to sleep, have a right to sleep. If I want to sleep, I'm not a child. I'm not a child. I'm not in kindergarten. Don't just come and just throw water out. What do you mean? So it shows your beliefs and your faith in me and in what is going on. It's less. So I have to be careful with you. Yeah. So for Jesus, we said why dogs? Oh, have I have a dog? Tell me a joke. I receive it. But I beg you to heal the dog too. And the dog is needing even dogs have vets. I need I I also need my injections. Yeah, even dogs have vets. So the people who are offended, they don't believe much. So all those of you who are here do small preaching. We are preaching. You are offended. You are here. It's just your faith is very small. Because I tell you, we are all Africans. If you go and make a statement like this, that you don't give the children's bed to their dogs straight away, it has no meaning, only one meaning. Say I am a dog and you just speak anyhow. You don't know where I came from, where I came from. Aman, the King of Kings, Lord everybody, is the King of kings in his house and a lot of Lords in his garden, and a master of ceremonies in his bedroom. Yeah, everybody is a king of this in his house and a lot of laws in his garden and a master of ceremonies in his bedroom. Yeah, you just can't get up and start calling people dogs. What do you mean? Just get up and start a lot of Lords and the king of cherries and the master of ceremonies. So as I've come here, maybe you have been rebuked. Have I not rebuked you? Have I not rebuked your pastors? Yeah, but your faith is revealed in the fact that that rebuke cannot point you, but rather you say, yes, we would have said we are nothing, we are still, we are, we are still going to rise up. Even some people can be annoyed with a song, but they came with a song. They said that they are waiting in vain for us. They made a song for us, they said they have waited this day for us. They have precharged us. They have precharged us before they came. They have charged us already. Who is that? All right, Saddam, Wow. Do you want to hear that song again? Are you sure you want to hear that song again? Is it an insult? Is it insult to you? None. Pillars of faith, Pillars of faith. Great faith, great faith, great faith. Travelling, communication, humility. And before I give you the last point, I want Ida to sing the song and see whether you will be offended by the song. Go into all the world and preach the gospel until your life is done. If you love me, obey the Great Commission. Build churches everywhere, in every town, every province, every city. Africa shall be saved. Tell me, how long is it gonna take for you to open me? I have a feeling that I'm waiting, babe, For you to open me. Yeah, I have a feeling that I'm waiting for you to do my will. Go. Am I gonna wait in there for your love? Am I gonna wait in there for your love? Am I gonna wait in there for your love? Am I gonna wait babe for your love? Do you remember what I told you? I told you build a mega church. I told you have a burning vision and your vision must be big, but all you do it does not lead to church growth. Your mind is on other things. So I've been thinking, thinking to myself, since I'm wasting time on you, so I want to change, Change your position, replace you and bring in someone else because I have a feeling that I'm waiting in bed for you to obey me. I'm feeling that I'm waiting for you do my will. Or he's asking, is he gonna waiting for your love? Is he gonna waiting for your love or is he gonna waiting for your love? Is he gonna wait and pay for your love? So why are you so hard? Why are you so difficult? Why don't you wanna do? Why don't you wanna change? Oh. Like I said, for a long time I've been calling out to you. There's always an excuse. A mega church. A mega at the church. You always have an excuse more than more excuses. But let's see. I don't think think that you love me. Your heart is somewhere else. If you love me. Hey, if you loved me, hey, you was obey me. You would work much harder now. But you know, I have a feeling that I'm waiting there for you to obey me. I have a feeling that I'm waiting there for you to do my will. God is asking you, Is he gonna wait in there for your life? Is he gonna wait in there for your life? Ah, is he gonna wait for your love? Is he gonna wait for your love? Is he gonna Is he gonna? Is he gonna Is he gonna Is he gonna? Don't just sing the song again. Think about it a little while. Is he gonna? Is he gonna Is he gonna Is he gonna? Is he gonna? God wants to know. Is he gonna? Has he been away in a day? How long? How long till he wait? Oh, is he gonna? Is he gonna? How long is he gonna wait? Wait for you to build a bag of church? Is he gonna wait? Say wait a day? Is he gonna wait a day? So you are not angry with that song? Pillar #4 of great faith. I'm giving you pillars of great faith. Pillar #1 is what? Travelling amazing. Pillar number 2 is what? Communication, pillar #3 is what? Humility. Humility is a sign of great. This is like faith in the great, great and pillar #4 persistence. Don't give up, Don't give up the faith. That song like that, Yeah. Don't give up. I'll never give up. Yeah, never give up. Hey, we are more determined than Alexander de Grey. Hey, the woman was not prepared to give up based on insults and men casting insinuations and other racism. Nothing could move her. Yeah, she didn't buy the racist card, thus you are not from here. Look at what you are saying about me racism card. She didn't die, said no, don't talk that way. That is all about Jesus tribe and my tribe, some of you. One small thing now that my tribe, my people, your people, the people this Ghana hear that. I mean you don't have to. I can't imagine if I was come to say that Zambians are dogs. I mean Zambian dogs. They should not be given bread from I I will say that he calls us dogs. He said we are dogs. Have you come from Ghana to call somebody a dog? Have you mean I should not be easy at all? And this woman say, look, you can call me Udogu, whether I'm an Aussation or a Buddha Doba man, whether I'm a session or I'm a Doba man or Chihuahua dog or whatever. I like my healing, please. She was more not ready to listen to anything. Just like Publius Grassus dives Musialus, Musialus was not prepared to hear anything. Hey Musialus, they pretend that we remove the shots of the moon. Remove you are lucky. It's lucky that I was not a woman how they would have beaten her fat bottom son. Look, I want you to know I am more determined. The church in Zimbabwe, every town is in Bulawayo, Ferrari, Bindura, wherever in Mugabe. So anywhere with buildings. Buildings, each church with its own building. The building in Zimbabwe, yeah, we shall have a church ride here. Victoria Falls on this side, Livingston on this side. Wow. We are more determined than ever before. More determined. It is now that we are going to start construction in Zambia, in Zimbabwe, in Malawi, in Congo. You are going to see practically with your eyes. You see it practically, practically, practically. You see it with your eyes? Yeah. Take a picture of your eyes and say this eyes of today will see what I'm saying. You see? You see the cathedrals. You see cathedrals in Blasta, in Lilongwe, in Harare, in Pintura, in Bulawayo, in Victoria Falls, Savale, Mugabe's hometown, everywhere. We shall build cathedrals everywhere. It is now that we are going to start. All those who thought they were discouraging us. You should have tried to discourage somebody else. Yes. We are here to break stalemates and difficult situations and enemies. Yeah. Look, Alexander the Greater, he was very determined, yeah. Positive wizard. He was a positive wizard, practicing positive witchcraft, stubbornness in a positive way. Yeah. And when he went to fight Persia, Darius, you heard of Darius came down. Yeah, nobody had done it before, but he said I will fight them. And he fought King Darius, the one in the Bible, and they ran away. And he said, we'll fight you again with a smaller army. He went to fight a far bigger army. And when he was fighting, you see, you are a commander of a smaller army. And here are the patients. Plenty. When they said P that is to start, you understand. P Ready study. P go. Then they started the war. Alexander the Great took his few elite soldiers and said that. Look at Darius at the back there, let's go for him. I went to chase the King of Kings, Darius himself. They were shocked. He himself, Darius was able to run away just in time. Yes. I mean, it just surprised everybody. He was very determined. Yeah. Very, very determined, Yeah. And after seven years, his soldiers were tired. They said we want to see our wives, we want to go back to Greece. They have travelled, working for seven years. I've gone far to India place. So when they the 10, he said we want to go back. He said OK, let's go back. But on the way anybody we see that must be conquered, we are conquering them even going back on the way home to see their wives. And he saw a certain town which was world called Mali. Mali and when his hey and he ran ahead of everybody, the commander and climbed the wall and climbed the wall and jumped into the peoples town. So he landed and he was alone. All his students were outside. They hadn't come and he was sad. He's like I I want you. I will think I will conquer you. Hey, in the Bible, he discovers a goat very fast moving. Yeah. Before they were attacked. So he was seriously wounded before his other soldiers came and joined him. So he said he was seriously wounded in a wound that took a long time to recover before he even died. He didn't die from that. He died later, but not long after that. Yeah, very determined. Like how good are you? Wow. So don't lose your energy, your persistence, your seal. You get it. No matter what has happened to you, even if it looks like you are going down, you are still a conqueror. Yeah, you are going to win. So here in Zambia, here in Zimbabwe, Malawi, Cogo, it is now. It is now that you're going to see something. And why would you persist? You only persist if you think that you believe the belief. And I learnt it. I learnt that from my father. Yeah, One day I was with my father in London. We were walking in the streets of London and we got to a shop and my father said he wanted to buy a book for, I don't know, I forgot what the book was for, either for me or for a book. When we went into the shop, The shop has several flaws. They they, they, they said there is this book is not here. My father said I want to see the manager of this shop. And I thought to myself, this man is embarrassing us come from Africa, we have come to London. The white man says that the book is not there. Now you say you want to say the manager is on the 4th floor. So you say I want to go to the 4th floor. We went to the left to go and see the manager when? Yeah, for what he wants. When we got there and out, I remember in my head saying that courses is not necessary. It is even embarrassing. I mean, why do you have to cause a scene in every shop you go to? In every shop you go to, There is a whole scenario set up there. When he told the manager what he wanted, the manager said, wait, I was dead. To my amazement, what the book that he said, that they said that's not there, that he went four floors, that he went to see the manager. We got the book. Physically, Physically walk out of the shop. Yeah, yeah. So when you are following a determined commander, you can easily be in your mind discouraged and saying that what are you doing too much about? It's over. The thing is not it's too much. It's not necessary. It's extreme. Wow. That is what it's like when you are following a determined leader. Persistent. A man of faith is a man of persistence. It is your persistence that you believe. Since then I changed my mind. I said everything is possible. Yeah. Even when I was coming here, the the hotel, I was going to say, they said there's no room. I said let's go, let's go. The one we got, they said they will only give us up to this. They said, you let's go. And we are there. Are we not here? We are here. But you see, if you've not worked with somebody who is a little persistent, you, you, you will not learn it. When you work with somebody who's a little person, after some time you realize that when he says try again, you go, go and check. He said. There's no but go and check. It's the one you are not used to. I realized that that day that I learned that from my father, and I learned that all of us should learn it. Most of us are not determined and most of us are not persistent. So when you meet a persistent person or you are under a persistent person, you are surprised. You feel that he's causing a scene, he's bringing embarrassment, he's causing a stare. It's over and he doesn't want to accept that it's over. So learn to be flowing with a detail. When I say they're going to build a cathedral in Lumumbashi, keep watching with your glasses. There will be lighthouse in Livingston and lighthouse in Victoria. Policy one here, 1 here. Yeah, the quarry will be between buildings. When I say check that we're building, practically the two churches will be quarrelling because they will always be fighting over a lot of our members. When there is a programme, it's like we should host it and they'll be saying the Zambian side is nicer than the Zimbabwean side and the Zimbabwe will say the Zimbabwe side is nicer than the Zambian side. Our Lighthouse members will be coming here for honeymoon and they will be asking are we going to the Zimbabwe side or the Zambian side to be a quarrel Constant Pharrell. And we will have to step into, separate them and say stop this quarreling. Now you hosted last year and this year somebody is hosting. Wow. So you believe this will happen practically, practically, practically, Yeah, Yeah. Wow. So don't speak Dubli, Dubli Das when you are walking behind a persistent man of faith and he's not giving up, He's not going home. Alexander the Great should have gone. So I won't go home. I'll build a road in the sea. You see, if you've ever seen the sea with the waves and green water, green tip, you can't see black, you can't see below. And you pour a rock in this affair. So bring another one, another one until you come up to the top. There's a Rd. that we are going with horses and Chariots. It's like I have time, I have time to conquer you and I will conquer you. God has given us time. I say God has given us time. We are not going back to the house. We are all out. It's a sign of faith. May God strengthen you with faith because by faith you are going to have a good report and a great blessing is going to come over your life. Lift your hands. Father, thank you for this wonderful camp meeting and all that you have showed us and blessed us with. For these four countries that are represented here today. We pray for the Church of God to be established there and to be built. Series of cathedrals and churches. Send and appoint bishops, Lord, raise up servants, raise up workers. Give us the art of leadership, the art of shepherding, the art of following, the art of hearing, the art of knowing you, Lord and working closer with you. We thank you Father, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I commit the churches and the pastors who are here into your hand. Anoint them, use them, bless them, cause them to increase and to multiply in a strong and mighty way. We are grateful for he who began a good work in Zimbabwe and Zambia, Malawi, Congo shall surely bring you to a perfect end. We thank you Father for what you have begun to do here. I want all the pastors to come to the front. Pastors of the Zambian, the four countries. If you are a pastor appointed as a pastor, come to the front. Stretch out your hands, Father, Thank you for these pastors. As we lay hands on them, we pray for strength. Bless them, Lord, impart your spirit of wisdom. Impart your greatness, because without you we are nothing and we can do nothing. Thank you Holy Spirit, I pray for them. My God, do something wonderful in Malawi. Build your church. Thank you for your healing power. That is wonderful and receive it. Bless, raise up Lord. Giants. I pray for giants, the spirit of spiritual giants upon them. My God, let it be powerful. Let your anointing be real in a special way. Thank you for grace for this work. Thank you for grace help that is not deserved. I pray for it. Give your servants grace. Give them the upper hand. The wisdom, the art of hearing, the art of following, the art of leading, the art of following. I pray for the grace, for the art of leadership. Thank you. Thank you, my God, my God. Thank you that you are a finisher of everything that you start. Complete it, build it, establish it, do it, Lord, do a great thing I asked for it. Thank you that you have not finished what you started, but you will finish it because you are the author and the finisher of our faith. We pray for the impartation of Your Grace, Your mercy, Your power. Halodes toberegilos fredelvas dalajadas E tobres atelbe E bleger dostal dedicate de veleche bedes in Jesus name Baron da Lava Shiva lava san Dalava. Father, thank you for beginning and for finishing. Thank you for blessing my God, My God, Tempo Sandalaba, Shandalababa, what you have done is grace. We are thankful and priest. Lord bless. Give what we don't have, anoint us with what we don't have that we may do your will and save you. Thank you. In the mighty name of Jesus, we pray. Everybody lift your hand and thank God. Thank God for Mission Africa, thank God for the harvests, the ministry of the sowa who went out to Seoul and God bless the seed and the seed grew and it became a 1993 of harvests. May the Lord increase you, multiply you. May you become a great flock. May you become a great multitude before the Lord. May you honor the Lord with souls, souls he died for, souls he sent his Son Jesus to die for. May the Lord bless you, keep you, strengthen you, and deliver you from evil. We cancel all bad news from this diocese, and we cancel all bad news from this area. We have both accidents and sudden deaths and all forms of tragedies. We cast them and refuse them in Jesus name. Let the covering of the blood of Jesus be over each and every one of the servants of the Lord. Thank you, Lord, the young one shall grow, the immature one shall mature, and whatever is deficient here, you have corrected it. You have straightened every path, You have straightened every crooked way and filled every valley. We ask for it. Thank you practically for churches, buildings, people, faithless growth, souls. We are giving you thanks and we are praising you. Everybody thank God in the name of Jesus Christ, Hallon de vele, Shiba Andalaba andalaba, Hallelujah. You may go back to your seats. How many know that God has dealt with us at this camp? Wow. So we are praying that God will give us another chance to do even better by the time we meet again. Should all be podcasts, video members, travellers, men of faith travelling, communicating, humble, persisting Christians and pastors and workers. When you go back, tell anyone who didn't travel you have no faith. That is why you wouldn't come. If you had faith, you could have slept on my carpet, on my floor. Yeah. And not only tell them, you should have bring them. You won't tell them. Bring them. This is a new day for Zambia, Zimbabwe, Malawi and Congo. Be blessed in Jesus name. Thank you. We hope you have been blessed and transformed by this camp. To get the most out of it, you will need to listen to it over and over again. Make sure you listen to all the other camps in the machinery. Don't forget to stop by our website at www.dagwoodmills.org. Here you can download other messages, video and find out about all the books and other resources available by Dagwood Mills. May God bless you in your ministry.