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14. 35 Qualities Of Becoming A Shepherd 6

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
January 19, 2025 1h 3m

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Camp Title - The Privilege. Machaneh Collection - 65. Preached in 2010, Kenya (Maasai Mara). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.

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Welcome to track #14 of the Privilege. If I'm not sure I should choose for that later, you come and kiss me a math. Sometimes you see your children, you, you, you. If you have a daughter, you give birth. Your daughter is not getting married. Will you not always be concerned about that? So why don't you take the children as the the members as your own children and care for them and love them. That is how that is, that is, that is, that is, that is what it means to be a shepherd. That's why Jesus asked, do you love me? Do you love me? If you love me, look after my sheep for me, care for them, do everything for them. That is what it means to be a shepherd. I'm telling you, for me, there is nothing I will not do for my I love sheep so much, so much that I think my greatest heartache is to see pastors who don't really love the sheep. As soon as I can't do anything about it because I have to do some other work. But the people that I love, many, many people Museum Kenneth Hagin, when he died, people came to him. People came and they testified. They said when I came to work for Kenneth Hagin and I came to work with Kenneth Hagin, I didn't learn

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Welcome to track #14 of the Privilege. If I'm not sure I should choose for that later, you come and kiss me a math. Sometimes you see your children, you, you, you. If you have a daughter, you give birth. Your daughter is not getting married. Will you not always be concerned about that? So why don't you take the children as the the members as your own children and care for them and love them. That is how that is, that is, that is, that is, that is what it means to be a shepherd. That's why Jesus asked, do you love me? Do you love me? If you love me, look after my sheep for me, care for them, do everything for them. That is what it means to be a shepherd. I'm telling you, for me, there is nothing I will not do for my I love sheep so much, so much that I think my greatest heartache is to see pastors who don't really love the sheep. As soon as I can't do anything about it because I have to do some other work. But the people that I love, many, many people Museum Kenneth Hagin, when he died, people came to him. People came and they testified. They said when I came to work for Kenneth Hagin and I came to work with Kenneth Hagin, I didn't learn faith, although he's the great teacher of faith. When I came here, what I learned was love. And if you are a shepherd, when people come near you, they won't learn any scriptures. They will learn a lot. They will feel love. Yeah. Love is what binds people. It's what we call shepherdorial cement. It cements people in the work, in the house. So now people cannot get jobs. You have to call your looking. See, you remember he has got to switch down masters in masters in foolishness and he wants a job. It is not getting a job. Oh, and you know somebody who is a human resource officer laughed in yes, you call it say look, my one of my people have got a masters in foolishness. If you can please employ the person to do any foolish job there. What do you think? Do you love the people? You will, you love them, you will care for them. If you love the Lord, you will love the sheep, you will love the people that He loves. Amen. Are you listening to me? The bigger your waymaking ministry, the bigger your congregation that's following you. I tell you, the bigger your waymaking ministry, the bigger your congregation. That's why I said when I told you the stethoscope is the past, the doctors, the shepherd is the the rod is the pastor's stethoscope. With it, he does a number of things. Amen. When you are making a way, Amen, you make a way for sinners to come in, to stay in the church, and for people to say sorry and for people to still be around. Do you know one of the things that drives people away? Shame. Some that they are ashamed, some that they feel sorry, but you have to be gracious so that they don't feel embarrassed. Don't let people feeling, don't let people apologize too much. Sorry, sorry, kneeling down too. Don't let people be embarrassed. Do you want somebody to embarrass you? Don't let people be embarrassed. Let people be elevated so the person is trying to say help them just so maybe he's backslidden. You see. Oh, doesn't matter most of all, everybody backslidden. They've all come. So just come. It's all right grass. Oh, but I drink, so it doesn't matter you it's OK. A lot of people drink. You come gradually the drinking will be OK. Amen. Can you make a way #3 territory making? Taking territories is their next job. Exodus chapter 17 verse 9. Moses said unto Joshua, Choose us out men, and go out and fight with Amalek. Tomorrow I will stand on the top of the hill with the rod of God in my hand. You see, Moses was using his rod, and it came to pass when Moses held up his hand, that Israel prevailed. And when he let down his hand, Amalek prevailed. Amen. Are you there now? Every shepherd must always be advancing. Your church must always be growing because it is always decreasing. Every church, always people are going. People are living in a church always. So if you get a church which stays at the same number, it means the number of people who left is equal to the number of people who came. That's why it's the same attendance. So a pastor, if you are serious, you have to be like Moses, who stretch out his rod to take a new territory to fight against Amalek. And pastors, shepherds, I'm showing you your work. So when I give you your come, the first time I gave you the rod, what were you supposed to do with it? Supposed to rule. The second time I gave you the rod, what was I supposed to do? I was supposed to make a way. The third time I gave you the rod. What are you supposed to do? Take territory. Supposed to take territories. So the first time I gave you the sensible, I was supposed to listen to the lungs. The second time I gave you to I was expecting you to listen to the hot sounds. The third time I gave you the rod, I was expecting you to listen to the intestinal sounds of the stomach. So you see now God is giving you the rod again. Take new territories. That's why we always trying to expand into new areas. Kenya, Nairobi. Do they allow signboards in Nairobi? When I was driving to Naira, I didn't see lighthouse signboard there. I saw one by the church but they allowed to have signboards. I want to see signboards from the north to the South to the east to the West. In the whole, more than 100 churches in only Nairobi. You don't seem to be excited about that because in Accra we have more than 100 churches in Accra. We are here as the Kodesh. Here's another church, just here, sit down. Here's the church. Look at another one there. Church at your door in your language. Church at your door, in your language. And that's what I'm planning for Lagos. I'm now on a Lagos mission. I called my Lagos pastor. I said come, we are going to take Lagos from here to here to here to here. You wait and see. That's what Nigeria is really in my heart. I tell you I have something in me that that place will bow to the gospel. The church will be there and it will work. Hallelujah. Are you listening? Here is a church, here is another church, here is a church, here is another church. We are taking territories. You sit down and clap for yourself. You are joking. This is the problem with Ghana Black Stars. Anytime Ghana Black Stars are playing World Cup or Africa, I don't want them to score 1st. As soon as this we score one, it becomes 21 against us because when you when they score one, they seem to relax. They don't. I don't know what is wrong with the the guys and they will pressurize us to the last moment. We cannot even watch the match out of tension and pressure. There's too much tension in the country when we are playing a match. Is it, is it right? There's too much when you come to a crime. They are playing this match, there's no car on the road. The whole place is bad that you hear. Then it means they didn't score, then they score. You don't have to watch. You know the scores by the shouting. Because you have scored one nil in Nairobi, you are now relaxing and then the enemy is now attacking everyday, attacking most of our missions we have scored one nil and now you are playing relaxation. Black Star style train pastes stretch out your rod. You are using your rod only for wave making and for what was the first one ruling when the territory taking is also there. I'm giving you stethoscope, you only use it for the lungs. Meanwhile I'm supposed to listen to the heart to see whether that's why. And now you have to hear different place. When you listen over here, you hear sometimes you over here. Here everything is normal the way you put it here you hear hey, at this place something is popping there. When it's popping then the blood is coming back. Hey, you are only using to listen to stomach because you like food. You are only listening to the stomach. You are joking. So when I give you your rod and you have you have made a shepherd in the church, you are supposed to take new territory, start a new ministry, start. What do you say? Welcome Caribou. You have Caribou ministry already. Caribou ministry. Caribou brothers soul to soul ministry. Do you have soul to soul? Do you have heart to heart ministry? Do you have person to person ministry? Do you have door to door ministry? 20% of your life is gone. You don't have door to door ministry passing to passing ministry. You don't have tract ministry. Do you have Do you have bass ministry? Do you have bass preaching ministry? Do you have roadside crusade evangelism ministry? Do you have mass evangelism ministry? MEM. Do you have megaphone ministry? Do you have dumb broadcast ministry? Then why are you praising yourselves? Do you have a reggae choir? Do you have reggae choir? Do you have tulips squad? Rosy squad? But I don't have tulips. Do you have daffodils? Do you have the bouquet? There's still one nil and they are pressing you. So you have to rise up from 1 corner of Nairobi to the other corner to this corner to this corner. Same thing for Lagos, same thing from somebody came to Ghana and he told, he said there are three things in Ghana. Number one people #2 mosque and #3 lighthouse. He said when he went from the north of South of Ghana to the north, he saw three things. Number one people #2 mosques and #3 lighthouse Chapel from the north to the South and visit came to the three things I saw in Ghana. You'll be happy when you go to you see the signboards and the buildings. Oh, I want to see the same thing here and in Zambia, Zimbabwe, from north to South. We won't leave any ground for anybody. The devil thinks we'll be tired soon unless he can kill us, unless we are dead. If we are not dead here, if you better be fine, a prayer to pray. He will be tired before we are tired. I say. The devil will be tired before we are tired. Are you tired? I say, Are you tired? A young person like you, how can you be tired? Territory. Taking ministry. So when I give you your rod, start using it well. How many are going to use your rod? Well? As a shepherd Like a shepherd, Amen. Like a father feeds his children, like a shepherd leads his flock, the Lord will always guide us and show us where to walk. And in times when we have plenty, times when we have none, He's our provider and His mercy never stops. Like a shepherd, He leads us. Like a father He feeds us from the morning to the evening till the sun arise again. Like a shepherd He leads us, and like a father He feeds us. He is the great idea. As we come into His presence, confess in Him as the Lord, His Holy Spirit guides us and feeds us from His word. We are seated at His table, but take us of His love, children of His Kingdom. We've been purchased by His blood. Like a shepherd that He leads us, And unlike a father, he feeds us. From the morning to the evening till the sun arise again. Like a shepherd he leads us. Unlike a father, he feeds us, and he is the great idea. Like a shepherd, he leads us. Like a father he feeds us from the morning to the evening till the sun arise again. Like a shepherd he feeds us. Like a father, he feeds us. He is a great. Hallelujah #4 that comforting ministry. As soon as you get your rod, one of the duties is comforting people. Amen. Don't worry about that. Insects go in from time to time. Then they just dissolve, vaporize. That's the future of orangut. Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. You are supposed to use the rod to comfort the sheep. It's OK. Amen. A Good Shepherd. OK. You feel comforted. Feel comforted. Very comforted. You need to comfort the sheep. It's OK. Don't cry. Amen. Do you understand? One day I saw a certain elderly lady, and I didn't know why. She was a member of the church that she was in, you see, because she was a staunch, faithful member of that church. And she was not leaving the church. OK, all right. But one day somebody told me something. The daughter of the person told me. Many years ago, when my mother was in a particular job, a big crisis came. And at that time she was a very important person. This man, the pastor, has so many crises and problems himself. You wonder why the people have not left. All these people are still in the church with him. And she told me when my mother went into the crisis, this man came to the house, there was an announcement. It was a big thing. He came, took care, drove around the whole city talking to her, encouraging her, praying with her throughout the crisis. When this happened, then she did. So I got the background and you I understood how come this person is staying with this crisis leading pastor. One day I went to a certain pastor's birthday party. He has a big church, but he has also had so many troubles. Then it was time for speeches. Then people started to speak. One guy came and said, yeah, you know, I was in the He has a way of I was in the cooler, that he was in prison. A big man in Accra that was in the cooler. My pastor sent this Pastor Kim, and he mentioned this pastor came to the prison, prayed with me. What can a pastor do? Nothing much he said. He prayed with them. He told me you will be set free. He said I didn't even know how I could be set free. So when we went to court, I was acquitted and I'm free. One after everybody gave those grown-ups who have been, they checked 20 years, 30 years, each of them has been comforted before. See, comforting does nothing to you substantially, but it has an effect on your soul. I'm telling you, you will see these people forever and ever. They will never leave you. You see, when you don't really love somebody, you can't really comfort the person. In fact, you know, if you feel what the person feels, you just say, look, pull yourself together and just get on. You know, pull yourself together and just get on with the job. A pasta. When there's trouble, that's the use of the shepherd. When there's trouble, that's where we see you. When there's crisis, that's where we see you. That's the way when God wants you to be close to somebody, He'll give the person a trouble that will introduce you as a shepherd to that person. Many people have become close people through troubles. After that trouble for life, we are together. We will never be separated from that person again. The trouble united you. So a shepherd you must funeral. You must be there outdoor. What do you call it here? Out during What do you call out during here? When somebody has a baby, What is it called? Baby Dedication. Shower. Crisis. Trouble school. You didn't pass. You pass. This does it? That's where you show like a shepherd. Your rod. You appear with your stethoscope. What are you coming to do this time? I'm here on the comfort team. One day I was in the church and I had a phone call and I was told that one of my church members has died suddenly in a terrible accident. And I knew that his wife was at home. She didn't know. She, her husband had told her that I'm on my way. But now he was he was dead. A young person, you don't know what to do. But I've never felt more useless than during that particular period when that pastor, that brother died with the wife. Because I was with the wife all the time. I called the wife. Come, I'll tell you. Bring her to me. I'll talk to him. I don't know what to talk. Hey, some of the people ask me, what are you telling them, Ish. I have to think of something to say. You have to think of something to say. I found something to say. Every day. I went and even got a book of people who have died. This thought happens. Oh, he's here. I was explaining to her. Look, by now he's here. This is what he's doing. This and that. Oh, I took care of my cow. I'll drive around the whole city talking to her in the night, explaining to her talking. You don't know the most stressful thing for somebody is for the husband to I'm not a husband or spouse to die comforting. That's where you make your members. Are you there? One day one of my passes was killed. When you, when you have not lived long, all these things is that's why somebody is 89 years old. There's nothing he has he hasn't seen before. By the time you are old, you have seen everything before He was killed early in the morning. That's why I don't like to put my phone on until I've had my that day before I I was holding my Barber and my phone was I said no, I just was. When I look at the phone, I said pastor so was killed this month. I remember how I stepped back my hand like this said I was now confused. I couldn't even read my Bible. I have to start talking, talking, talking, talking, always. But one day, you know, one of these widows whose husband had died, she came to see me quietly. She said, I want to say thank you. I said, for what? I said, I'm the most useless person I have. So that look, I said, what can I do to bring your husband back? What can I do? I'm so just powerless, Powerless. I didn't even pray for him to rise from the dead. When Bishop Zaki's wife died, I completely forgot to pray. I just started crying. My wife has said pulling me. What is he going to do if you behave like this? That's what she was asking Come and she said, I want to say thank you. I said. She said it worked you. Then one day another pastor was also killed. So I was sitting with the one who was the pastor was dead, another whose one has just died, this one is here and this one is here. Then the one who died some time ago was there. So the new one was looking at the old one. So somebody asked the old one. So how did you make it at that time? My hands were around the newest 1, the old one. I've finished. She's OK now. I've finished the rod I told you we used. My hand was I was sitting on the flower pot. She just said one way. She said the same hands that are around you. Those were the very hands that kept me and helped me. Those hands, she said. She pointed. The hand that is around you, that's the hand that kept on. Are you listening when you take your rod as a pastor? These are your jobs. Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. It's not that you have the solution, but you have to be there. One day one of my pastors died. I was standing by the coffin with her. I told her I'll take, I'm taking her to see him. I'm taking her to see a body. So I was talking to her and later somebody asked what were you telling her? I was explaining to her, this is not, I thought, can you not see? Can you not see? Hey, the face had changed. You like this, I said. God will take care of you. But I remember one day I saw her coming downstairs to see me. She had she was wearing a white dress with a white hat. Big hat like that is the type of hat that I like. There are different types of hat. I'm also into hats and designs. You don't know that I'm a designer. She had a nice heart. I liked her heart. She was married again. I said, I told you, I told you that you got to take care of you. One day, one of my other widows, I came back to the office. She was laughing in the office. I said, you see, I told you, you will laugh again. I told you, you will laugh again. But I still couldn't give her husband back, back and comfort her like that. What do you think? Is it powerful? Sometimes you don't know why people are following somebody. When you go inside, you find out it's not the preaching at all. They don't even understand what he's saying. But just that look, the guy, the guy, he's close marking. I tell him he's there with the people. Oh, comforting. So that's a pasta. When you use, when you learn how to use your rod to do your work, it's one of the main works that you have. Are you listening to me? Amen. Why is he? When I gave you the rod, what was your first job? Shout for the people to hear, to rule. Who is your first citizen? Your beautiful wife #2 I gave you a rod to do what? To make a way. The larger the way you make, the larger the congregation can follow. You serious? Oh, don't be afraid of poor people. It's poor people who become rich people. Don't be worried when we are making way for a lot of poor people think that you are wasting money. You are waste. Oh, oh, the poor people are the ones who become rich people when they don't think about them. God will pay you back in another way. Make buses for them, help them keep their money, buy clothes for them. So I don't like your shirt. I don't like your, your, you know, there are some people they wear a coat. The coat is the shoulders is, is a cantilever. Do you know what is cantilever? Cantilever shoulders. The the suit is bigger than their shoulders. It's what we call cantilever jackets. Make a way for them #3 what are you supposed to do with the rod? Take a territory. Take more territories. You sit down and start celebrating one nil. Before you realize it's 11. Before you realize it's what? So when you see Ghana play in the World Cup, pray that we will not score first or we will score at the last moment, the end somewhere so that it can finish quickly. Amen. You see, like as we could have celebrated ourselves long ago, long ago, we became the church with more branches than any church that I know of even in Ghana. I mean in our era, not everywhere, but in that came from Atta. Long ago I became an author with more books than anyone long ago I became an author who has written books in Spanish, French, Portuguese, Russian. This this, this long ago I kept be invited all over the world long. It's not just recently. Oh, you don't understand what I'm talking about. I could have started celebrating one nil long, but if you follow him, you say that I'm now starting even our healing Jesus Crusade. We could have celebrated long ago the largest crusade. Every time we go for a place in crusade, they'll tell us. At the beginning they used to tell us only Bunky has had a crusade as large as this diocese after Bunky. But in the last crusades that we've had, we have been again to places that Bunky has been. Our crusades were far bigger than Bunker. They said this one is far bigger. This is the space that Bunker had his crusade. Your crusade is that 8 times larger field than Bunkers Crusade. Bunkers crusade in Tamale where he had in 1997 when he came, he wrote it in his biography. The attendance of a crusade was the attendance was about 55,000. We were mentally we had attendance of 100,000 in one for one day. So ladies and gentlemen, I could have been celebrating one day. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, as I'm here, I'm sending message. We are working on. We are heading to other places for crusade. Wow, it's all as if we are starting all over again. So don't celebrate your territory. Decide to take a new territory for Jesus in your life and ministry or the next thing I'm going to do with your role, comforting the people. Are you comforting? Comfort your wife. Wow. Do you feel the comfort? You feel it. You feel it, Sir, I feel it. OK, now bring my rod. The next one is measurements. When you have a rod, you use it to measure. Revelations Chapter 11, verse one. There was given unto me a Reed like unto a rod, and the Angel stood there saying, Rise and measure the temple of God and the altar, and them that worship therein. Amen. Have you seen that verse? Revelation Chapter 11, verse one. There was given unto me a wreath like unto a rod, and the Angel stood and said, rise and measure the temple of God and the altar, and then that worship, burial. Amen. What does that mean? Measure measurements. You have to assess yourself. Amen. When you assess yourself, you are always able to do better. Why do we look into the mirror? To see what you are not. When I look into the mirror, I realize that I'm not black. I'm pointy .5. I'm only .5. Sometimes you look in the mirror and you see your hair. There's something sticking out here. So you do this, Are you afraid? Isn't it? You measure, you say that's the only way sometimes you can know really where you are to a pastor. You have to analyze, you have to look at your attendance, you have to assess yourself. If you are a new shepherd, Pastor Obi has made you a shepherd, a pastor you are preaching and so on. You must always come and ask him, did I preach well? Is that how to preach? Assess yourself and be assessed. Amen. Measure and analyze this chat. How big is it? Is it really working? I've been here for seven years. Is it working? I've been here for four years. I have 25 members. Is it really working? Is it my calling? What is wrong? And when you start analyzing, you will realize there is something wrong with you. Amen. How many know that there's always something wrong with you? Stand up and see if there's something wrong with with with you. Everybody look at yourself. Is there something wrong somewhere? Well, what is wrong? What is wrong with you, Huh. Stand up and examine yourself. See whether there's something wrong with you. Some of your stomach is too big and then what? Again, some of you your nose is too big. Some of you are smelly, isn't it? Some of you haven't bathed, isn't it? Some of you haven't done your hair, isn't it? Some of you you are tired. Some of you are getting bored. Some of you your hands are not straight. Oh, some of your bum. Bum is too big. Oh, it's too small. Something is big. Something is small. Oh, Mercy Measurement. Every church, when you look at it, you always see something wrong with it. I'm telling you, there is no church that is OK. Just like your body. If I look at you right now, where is your hair? You see, if I look around now, suddenly I will see something wrong. If I look at you right now, what will I see? Something wrong? Your nose is small. You see now she says the hair nose is too small. And when I look at you, what is wrong with you? Your hair is too long when I look at you. What is wrong with you? Your eyes are too big when I look at you, what is wrong with you? You have not done your hair. You need to retouch it. That's why you covered it with this cap. What is wrong with you? Your stomach is not straight. Every church. When you take a measurement rod on any church, it's not that this church is good and this church is bad. If you just take an assessment right now, you see that you are not good at handling visitors. You are not treating visitors well. Our follow up is not as it should be. Our worship is not good. The worship be that cannot sing the songs well. The music musician is like this, that this is that the song have been chosen wrong. There is always something when you sit down to assess, you will always see something wrong. There's something wrong with this camp. There's something wrong with me. There's something wrong with the preaching. There's something wrong. You just have to take your measurement. You immediately see, but most of the time we cannot see some of the most important things. You know, there's some places you cannot see. You need a mirror to see that place. That is why if your pastor tells you something, try to believe it all. It's not easy to get somebody who would tell you, look, this is wrong with you. It's a blessing. Somebody tells you, know this is what is wrong. Believe it, especially the person loves you. He's only trying to make you get better and better, better and better and better. Before Pastor became here. Pastor Richard has been correcting him all the time, measuring him, said no Obi, Obi, no, no, no Obi. This Obi down. It is because Obi met. Pastor Obi measured himself. That's why he came to Kenya. We really wanted to serve God. I realized that as a layperson he can only go up to this point. He wanted to go do more because he loved God. When he measured himself, realized that his measurement was just up to here. So he said if I'm going to get a measurement all the way to here, then I need to leave London. That is why he left. That's why I started churches in Africa. But when I measured myself one day, I look at myself, it's only Germany in Switzerland, America, this. But even though the white people don't come to our churches, it's just immigration church that we have. It's just immigration Church of runaways from Africa, runaways from Ghana. These are the members, asylum seekers. These are the members that we have. If we want the real souls, let us go. And when I measured, I said, oh daggy, what mails? You are falling short. And I decided that no, I'm going, I'm going. Do you know why I sent people to Nigeria? I just analyzed myself and said 1/4 of the whole of Africa is in Nigeria. How can I say that I'm serious? I'm serious, I'm doing missionary work or crusade or anything serious and I'm not in Nigeria seriously. Which business is doing serious business which is not in Nigeria? Tell me which business is Coca-Cola? Is it MTN? Is it what that you will not take Nigeria seriously whether there are dangers there or not? Then what about the check? When I analyzed myself, I said that am I serious? One day I was with a white man. I was sitting, I was landing in Lagos, he said. He told me I've never been here before. We were flying from Ghana. As we were landing, he looked out and he said, man, this place is like Baghdad. He said, this place is like Baghdad. Well, we were going to Europe, but we had to stop there to refuel. He said, this is like Baghdad, you know. But then he said, so. He said, do you have to do you come and say, come? He said, why would you come here? What do you come to do? I said we're preaching this and that. Then he was quiet for some time and I said, I guess, yeah. I also go to dangerous places for my work. I do. I go, I go. So I, I can understand why you come here. Have you ever seen a white man seen oil? That he didn't come, whether it's Angola or Nigeria or where he did that, he didn't go. A white man who has seen money, he has seen a diamond, Ohio, he has seen the gold. When I went to Johannesburg, I went under a mine. I went under. That's when I saw how greedy men are very, very, very, very, very deep just to look for a stone that is not used for anything. It's not have no use. It only can be useful jewelry. And me, I shouldn't go and look for soul in Kaduna. You when I said you should go to Rwanda, you thought I was joking. Tell the truth. You thought I was joking. And look, he said, oh, be sure. Every time he'll come smiling, be sure. Oh, look, I say this guy is not serious. This guy is not a serious person. He takes it everything as a joke. He's like a nice pasta in London and so on. So one day he came around and said so vicious. So please, what should I do? You know what I said? Go to Rwanda. I said go, go to Rwanda. How do I say I don't know? Do you know? I don't know anybody. They just go there. If you are serious, go there. It's because it's wrong. I take him seriously. I go by action, not by just coming and smiling and talking. We don't talk here. We act. They are shooting. Shoot, Don't talk. Shoot. Have you watched The Good, the Bad and the Ugly? Huh. Hey, you don't watch films in Kenya. It's a These are my Canal film. You have to watch The good, the bad and the ugly. You must watch. Are you there? Amen. When I measure myself, I say no. If light as we measure ourselves, we must have more than 1000 thousand churches in only in only Niger. If you measure yourself, if you don't measure yourself, you praise yourself. So I go to church in Zimbabwe, go to church in Zambia, go to church in Kenya, go to church in Ethiopia, go to church in here. That's not a real measure. Measure yourself properly. Because Liberia is just about 1,000,000. Sierra alone is just about 1,000,000 people, Nigeria's 120 million people. So I have a church in Liberia. It's like a small town in Nigeria. It's nothing. When you say you are working in Africa, you don't speak French and you don't have French pastors and you don't have French books and you are not in the French country. When half of Africa is speaking French. Just measure yourself and see. As soon as you measure, you immediately see that I'm not as good as I thought I was. That's why I'm asking you as chairpers and pastors, take your measure. When you lie down, analyze yourself clearly, take mirror, put under, look at everything clearly and see, hey, is that what is there? Shyaba, Yaba, When I hear that Congo, Congo is 18 million people, when Nigeria is 120, Congo is 80 and Ethiopia is 75 million, huh. Ethiopia is 80, Congo is 80, Nigeria is 120. Let me tell you something, if I say I want to praise myself that we have started churches all over Africa and Congo, Ethiopia and Nigeria, we are not able to seriously be working there. Please, according to the measurement, we are not doing anything. These are the biggest countries in Africa. Gamma is only 20 million. It's nothing. How many can understand? When you measure yourself, you look so silly. You look so stupid praising yourself. That is why a pastor, you must always be assessing yourself and say, oh, oh, ducky, what mills? So that's when I'm playing golf. I get a chance to insult myself. Ducky, what mills? I learned it in America. I had my pastor insulting one of my friends, insulting himself. Sometimes you have to rebuke yourself. Instead of praising yourself, say I'm a man of God, I'm going to buy a Benz. Amen. Are you listening to me? You are listening to me. All right. Number six, the Ministry of Correction, after measuring, you must correct. But who told you to sit down? Am I the one who told you to sit down or you just felt that it's in the OK, you can sit down, it's OK. Arrogant assumption of privilege. Now correction, shall I come unto you with a rod the next time I give you a rod? Daniel, what are you supposed to do? Correction. Yeah, you don't correct people, they will go out of line. Shall I come unto you with a rod, or in love, or in the spirit of meekness? First Corinthians 421 Moses was asking, should I bring my rod to come and correct you? Amen. Hallelujah. You must be able to correct people. Amen. One day I was having a meeting in my office. Every day I have the meeting, I sit behind my chair and then the other pastors sit around and I'm having a meeting. One day I came late for the meeting and then one of the pastors went to sit in my chair and started the meeting to help the meeting to go on. So that we it's like we are having discussion whilst they sit down, whilst they're while they're waiting. So as soon as I entered, I saw him sitting in my chair conducting the meeting. And as soon as I felt there was something wrong with it, but he knew exactly what was wrong with it, but I said there's something wrong with that. So I said, get up. Never sit in my chair If I'm not there, don't sit in my chair. David had a donkey. And when he wanted to show that Solomon was the king he made, he said, let Solomon sit on my donkey and drive in the town. It's a symbol of his authority. Don't sit on it. I said get up and go. Don't sit there. Even if I'm not there, don't sit there. If you can't correct people, it will take you for a ride before you realize you are wondering who is in charge. What do you think sometimes you have to say If some people don't ask, who are you say I am? So you must bring people into line. There are people who love to go out of line, say back, it's not your place to do that, Amen, it's out of order. Don't do that. Especially when it comes to certain things, people love to go out of order, Amen. I can give you a lot of examples, but for the sake of fine protocol I will desist from sharing more of such things. But you need to be able to rebuke one of our church members. He stole our offering. I gave him an option. I said leave the church and I will not say anything and don't join any other church, Lighthouse church because he was a chronic thief. I said if you don't, if you come, I'll make a poster of you and I will share your poster everywhere in our churches that you are active. But I don't want to do that. So just go quietly. What do you think? Is it not? Is it not a kindness? Yeah, go. Just don't be in the church again. Don't join in, because everybody knows you as an Asher and as somebody who is helping. So just go. I will not, I will not announce, I will not show you that people know you come to the people, give you their cars, you pack, repack, you steal things all the time. Only that we didn't know. So go or I will publish your name. But I don't want to disgrace you. Amen. What do you think? Sometimes you are, people are walking around talking. Sometimes you see me say sit down, sit down, sit down. If you don't, if you are not strong, there will be a market. South America, they have a market. Whilst you are preaching, walking up and down, up and down, up. South America is noted for that thing. Oh, it's terrible. But when they are presidents there, they don't do that. Amen. And church members are like wives. They want to see how far you go, how much they can go out of latitude. They are like horses. If you learn how to ride, the horse knows the kind of rider that is sitting on him. As soon as you sit on a horse and you hold a, he knows from the reins how you hold the reins and how you sit and how you even the confidence which you have to tap the horse and the way you hold them. And he knows you are experienced and when you are not experienced, he knows you are a starter. I once rode a horse called Black Beauty and at that time I was a beginner and Black Beauty, we were all going out on a ride. Black Beauty was feeling lazy and he didn't want to go out. When we got to the gates of the ride, he stopped and I was on the horse. He stopped and everybody was continuing and I, I kicked him go. He stood there. I kicked him go. Then the Sergeant who was inside of the ride, he came back. We were about 20 horses. He came back, said come on, kick the horse, let the horse come kick it. I was kick it my head. God did he stood there, kick it, come on, I kick like a church member didn't know, like a wife didn't know. You are a beginner, you are new. I did with him he wouldn't go. Then the sudden said why they are going because he cannot hold up everybody and I was sitting there. Then the horse itself turn around and walk me back to its table. If you, if you allow, your congregation will lead you. They will make you open a university because they'll say you also have a university. Like all of us, all the others are having universities. We must also have a we must also have a school. We must do this, we must celebrate this. We must have, they will lead you, they will lead you. They will make you do everything you wouldn't really have done. So after that I went and I got a special whip called Alley. I went to a certain jockey and he made a special whip for me. He said that this is how and you have to prepare. When you whip the horse, it will jump. They need to go up and down and kick to try to dislodge you and to see how stable you are on the horse. Yeah. So you do like that, then you tap it. It's not good. Jump this and realize that you are not budging and you see that he will realize that an experienced man, he cannot lead me. I am leading you. You are not leading me. Correct the horse this way when they are going right. When you are riding a horse, some horses go naturally left. You are running a race. One day I went on a race ready, steady, go from here, about 10 horses. We are riding to that hill ready go. Then my horse was going like left, left, left, left, left, left, left and I would have won the race but I was going left, left, left, left, left fire. I was far on this side. Oh, so you must know how to correct your church and lead them straight. Life is going left. What you have to do is you have to bring the whip to this side so that it will see the whip on this side and the head will be coming this way will be coming this way. And then we go. Have you heard a word navigation? Navigation is an is a word that came from sailors. It means the ability to stay on course and the ability to come back on course when you have gone off course. You have to learn it if you're going to be on the sea. There's no land, nothing. For days and days your goats will be getting finished, your cows, your pigs, your water, your oranges. Everything is getting. You have to know how to go straight to your destination. Are you there? But there are some unruly horses you can never ride. There was a horse called Lucifer. That is the only horse. When you whip it, it is so intelligent that it will jump up. Not will it jump a gentle but high, come down, kick up, go up. That one is no problem. It's a problem, but it's not really a problem. But it knows, ah, you want, so you want to stay, You want to stay on my back. Then it will lie down and row. And that horse is called Lucifer. So it is the Luciferic members that we cannot control. And I've seen it before. That horse, Lucifer, I saw a champagne. It laid down on the floor and I saw it. But there was a man who could ride it. When it rose, he would stand by the horse like that, and it rose over. When it comes back to his feet that he comes right back. And the horse knew that he had seen his master and nobody, only two people could ride that horse. Sometimes you see a Lucifer member. You realize that this Lucifer must go out of the church. Amen. Are you there? OK, we are finishing some members. You must cast them out. Proverbs 22, verse 10. Cast out this corner, and contention shall go, Our strife and reproach shall cease #7 Feeding, preaching man Rod is used to feed Micah. Chapter 7, verse 14. Everybody tend to Micah. 7/14 Somebody should stand up and read it. Shepherd your people with your the flock of your possession which dwells by itself in the woodland. Say again, Shepherd your people with your scepter, the flock of your possession, which dwelled by itself in the woodland, in the midst of the fruitful field. Let them feed in the best bastion and Gila as in the days of old. Read it from the King James, my friend. Yes, feed thy people with thy rot, the flock of thy heritage, which dwells solitarily in the wood in the midst of Carmel. Let them feed in Bashan and Gilead as in the days of old. Amen. Hallelujah. Feed thy people with thy rod. All right, so the next duty and the last one is feeding your sheep with the rod. Somehow you have to show them where the food is with the rod, isn't it? It's like a fork and knife. You sure? No, this is it. Take this. It's going. It's good. It will work. Amen. So what are the seven things you are going to do with your How do you feed your people? How do you feed the people with the rod? By preaching and teaching a man. A man. How many are ready to preach and to teach? OK, 29 keys to good preaching and I'm going to give you a short break before we go on to that. How many minutes do you want? I'm just trying to make a way making ministry for you Pass Obi. Good. So we take a 10 minute break. So in 7 minutes you start to walk back. All right.