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10. Experiencing Suffering 1
Bishop Dag Heward-MillsAbout this sermon
Camp Title - The Sufferings of Christ. Machaneh Collection - 52. Preached in 2008, UK (Swanick). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.
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Welcome to track #10 of the sufferings of Christ. How many are glad that he's clean? He's he's put it into the sea, and the sea is very big. You know, if you want something to get lost, the best place to put it in the sea. Because Can you believe? That all the toilet. From so many countries is put into the sea and and the fish are still living there and we fry them every day and we eat them every day. So when God has put your sins into the sea of forgetfulness, it means that it's really lost, isn't it? Not fantastic? Amen. Into the sea of forgetfulness, sufferings of Christ, then those who have. Ceased. Jesus led. Him away to care of us. The high priest where the scribes and the elders. Were gathered together, but Peter was following him at a distance as far as the. Courtyard of the High. Priest and he entered it and sat down with the officers to see the outcome. Now another painful experience is. For people who are. Watching to see the outcome, to have people who are watching. You to see the. Outcome of of. Everything that you are doing your. Ministry your church. Your life, your business. Your decision to go here they are all watch
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Welcome to track #10 of the sufferings of Christ. How many are glad that he's clean? He's he's put it into the sea, and the sea is very big. You know, if you want something to get lost, the best place to put it in the sea. Because Can you believe? That all the toilet. From so many countries is put into the sea and and the fish are still living there and we fry them every day and we eat them every day. So when God has put your sins into the sea of forgetfulness, it means that it's really lost, isn't it? Not fantastic? Amen. Into the sea of forgetfulness, sufferings of Christ, then those who have. Ceased. Jesus led. Him away to care of us. The high priest where the scribes and the elders. Were gathered together, but Peter was following him at a distance as far as the. Courtyard of the High. Priest and he entered it and sat down with the officers to see the outcome. Now another painful experience is. For people who are. Watching to see the outcome, to have people who are watching. You to see the. Outcome of of. Everything that you are doing your. Ministry your church. Your life, your business. Your decision to go here they are all watching to see what the outcome of this thing you've decided to do. Mercy. Forgive now, the Chief. Priest and the whole. Council kept trying to obtain false testimony against Christ so that they might put him to death. Now the cheapest and the whole council kept trying to obtain false testimony against Jesus so that they might put him to They did not find any, although even many false witnesses came forward. But later on 2 came forward and said, this man stated, I'm able to destroy the temple of God and to rebuild it in three days. And the high priest stood up and said to him, do you not answer what is it that these men are testifying against you? But. Jesus. Kept silent, and the high priest said to him, I enjoy you by the living God, that you tell us whether you are the Christ, the Son of God the 60. Two, the high. Priest stood up and said, Do you not answer the 63? But Jesus kept silent. Amen. Now one day a husband and wife were arguing in the house. And shouting. A certain husband and a certain wife as they were arguing. They're shouting. They started to shout. The man started to shout. Then the wife. Said to him. All my stories are. True. Except the ones I tell you that are not true. But they are always true. It's always a real person, so the wife said. They can hear. People can hear what you are. Saying And you know what the man said. I said I want them to know, yeah, I want them to know who is the cause of all the troubles. In this House. You see, there is a certain level of suffering. Where you have. To be quiet, sometimes it's so difficult not to correct the impressions that are created in. Life but. God has a certain level of suffering. Where your. Duty is to be silent, and Jesus kept silent. It's like not a word about this. I suffer in silence. Hey, this one is difficult for some people because you can't help talking. Pray that you don't marry some people who like talking about everything, disgracing their husbands. There are some hazards. Who are disgraced? Because of who they might. Because their wife. Goes to state to. So many people in the end of man. Is looks so beastly. Because everything about him is being shared abroad, huh. Everybody thinks something about this poor man. I want people to know who. Is the 'cause? You want people to know that? He is. Bad He is the one so that you can do what you want to do. But the Bible? Says Jesus did not. Answer. He did not say anything. You know one thing I thank my my mother for my my, my, my own mother. My Swiss mother, my mother. Never said anything. Bad about my father. In fact, it was one day. When I. Travelled, Somebody said to me. I've never. Seen an unbeliever who is faithful. To his wife before. And I said no, my father, have I? I can't even imagine something like that. Because I've never had any negative. Word about my father from my mother. Not that. It was easy. For her but not you see it. It even protects you and. Gives you a good mind. That's why first born children have greater temptations, because they see more. They see more and they hear more, and they know more than the second. There are some churches which are specialized in first borns. The the special, the specialist area. Is praying for first born children? Yeah. Are you with me? Yeah, first born children, they have the more difficult time because they see more and they don't. Well, you don't know. You see your parents, angels and whatever. I thank God for that thing because it gave me a very good mind about my Father, you understand. So, ladies and gentlemen, there is a place where you have to know how to be quiet and not to answer and not to answer, not to explain. Let everybody know. Let them think what they think. That's a realm. Let them think what they think. Yeah, they are thinking anyway. That's why some of us. We, we, we need. So much to give a good impression of us. That's why you can't be a good person, and that's why you can't take a good offering. They must. Have a good impression about you, Juicy. Yeah. I mean, you need to be good looking. You need to have that good image. It's so important for you for your image to be so good. That's why any of the messy parts of the ministry, anything a little messy or a little some. Way you get it. You just don't go into that. And if there's ever anything, you clear yourself first. You let people know that it's not you. You are never at. Fault You let them always have a good and you can't be quiet. Jesus kept silence. You are this, you are this, you are this. You will not answer. He said He kept quiet. Let them think what they want to think. Welcome to track #12 of the sufferings of Christ. Now the chief priests and the whole council kept trying to obtain false testimony against Christ so that they might put him to death. Now the chief in the whole council kept trying to obtain false testimony against Jesus so that they might put into it. They did not find any, although even many false witnesses came forward. But later on 2 came forward and said, this man stated, I'm able to destroy the temple of God and to rebuild it in three days. And the high priest stood up and said to him, do you not answer, what is it that these men are testifying against you? But. Jesus kept silent. And the high? Priest said to him. I enjoy you by the living God, that you tell us, whether you are the Christ, the Son of God. The 62 The high priest stood up and said, Do not answer the 63. But Jesus kept silent. Amen. Now one day a husband and wife were arguing in the house. And shouting. A certain husband and a certain wife as they were arguing. They're shouting. They started to shout. The man. Started to shout. Then the wife. Said to him. All my stories are. True. Except the ones I tell you that are not true. But they are always true. It's always a real person. So the wife said they can hear, people can hear what you are saying. And you know what the man said. I said I want them to know, yeah, I want them to know who is the cause of all the troubles. In this House. You see, there is a certain level of suffering where you have to be quiet. Sometimes it's so difficult not to correct the impressions that are created in life. But God has a certain level of suffering. Where your. Duty is to be silent, and Jesus kept silent. It's like not a word about this as suffer in silence. Hey, this one is difficult for some people because you can't help talking. Pray that you don't marry some people. Who like talking about? Everything disgracing their husbands. There are some husbands. Who are disgraced? Because of who they might. Because their wife goes. To stay to. So many people in the end of man is looks so. Beastly. Because everything about him is being shared abroad. Everybody thinks something about this poor man. I want people to know who is the. 'Cause you want people to know that he. Is bad He is the one so that you can do what you want to do, but the Bible. Says Jesus did not. Answer. He did not. Say anything you know. One thing I thank my my mother for My my my, my own mother, my Swiss mother, My mother never. Said anything? Bad about my father. In fact, it was one day when I travelled, somebody said to me I've never seen an. Unbeliever who is? Faithful to his wife. Before and I said no, my father, I I can't even imagine something like that. Because I've never had any negative word about my father. From my mother, not that it was easy for her, but not. Is it it even protects you and. Gives you a good mind. That's why first. Born children have greater temptations because they see more. They see more and they hear more, and they know more than the second. There are some churches which are specialized in first bones the the special the specialist area. Is praying for first born? Children. Yeah. Are you with me? Yeah, first born children, they have the more difficult time because they see more and they know. When you don't know, you see your parents, angels and whatever. I thank God for that thing because it gave me a very good mind about my Father, you understand? So, ladies and gentlemen, there is a place where you have to know how to be quiet and not to answer and not to answer, not to explain. Let everybody know. Let them think what they think. That's a realm. Let them think what they think. Yeah, they are thinking. Anyway. That's why some of us. We, we, we need. So much to give a good impression of us. That's why you can't be a good person, and that's why you can't take a good offering. They must. Have a good impression. About you, Juicy, Yeah. I mean, you need to be good looking. You need to have that good image. It's so important for you for your image to be so good. That's why any of the messy parts of the ministry, anything a little messy or a little some. Way you get it, you just don't go into that. And if there's ever anything you clear yourself first, you let people know that it's not you. You are never at. Fault you let them always have a good and you can't be quiet that Jesus kept silence. You have things, you have things, you have this, you will not answer, he said. He kept. Quiet. Let them think what they want to think. The lesson? Is to experience the. Suffering of people. Telling lies about you to the degree that you have people telling lies about you are being promoted when you get to the point where somebody tells lies. About you to the. Point where what is true and what? Is not true. Cannot. Be separated. They were really, really advancing. In ministry? How do you want to advance in the ministry? You know Roberts Laden? Yeah, we had him in the cathedral and I drove with him to Cape Coast. When we were coming back, we're talking and he was telling me, you know, one time he had a crisis in his life. He said that. A time came where what was being said and what had happened were complete, so different, but it reached a point where he realized that he has to say. Nothing about anything anymore. Because what was real, what happened, what didn't happen that that and what was being said and what was happening, they were so different that it was incredible to even correlate the two things. That's, that's how it is. That's how it is like, did you say you break the temple? You didn't break the temple. I said this. You didn't say this. Look. You haven't seen one before. You are young, you are new and I've learnt not to bother when people want to say something. Look, you can't even control. What they will say. When they start as I sometimes I'm quite paranoid about the people that are allowed to be close to me because when somebody wants to say something, can weave a story around you and can represent almost anything before you realize you don't recognize when they are talking. So who are they talking about it? It's you. It's me. And you have to be quiet and allow them to have the impression that they have. It's very difficult to allow people to have an impression, but sometimes that's part of the ministry that God has called is to allow people to have the. Impression that the the. The wants to have. With the evidence that they think they have. And you are not supposed to. Tamper with their evidence. They should have the evidence. Did you have their stories? And once time had one of my pastors had some story, had some story about me. And when I had the person had that story about, I felt like asking the person what what did the person tell you? But then somebody said to me. Just leave it. Let him have whatever impression he has. It's. OK, that's the, that's what we are supposed. To experience you leave that when. Elijah, Elijah. Went out to see Neymar the Syrian and said to him, my master originally said he didn't want to have any payment for the healing miracle that you did for him. But it's when just after you left, some travelers came just after you left. And he said I should come and ask you for one change of clothes, one set of clothes and then some food and so on. Money to just help to look at them, nothing much. And then Elijah got the. 2 Chase. In Neyman said OK, be content, take two and he. Gave him to Gehazi. Sorry he had Elijah and Gehazi and he and the man said take 2 when he came. Back. Elijah asked. Where? Did you go, my dear? And he said. Oh, I, I didn't know. I was just. Outside, I didn't go anywhere and he said it went on my heart with me. He said is it a time to collect clothes? Is it a time to do this? And a bad impression had been given about him to name on the Syrian. I never bothered to correct it, just let him have the impression that he has. He should go home with the impression that he has. That I like. Money I like. This At first I said I didn't want my, but actually I'm somebody who wants money. Another let. Him go with that. Impression. No problem, I can handle it. Let the music play on, play on, play on. Let the story play on, play on, play on. Let the impression play on, play on, play on. Say what you want to say. Play on, play on, play on. One time I went to a certain town where I'd had a pastor who had gone around from house to house, from person to person, evangelizing against me, evangelizing against my soul and my ministry when I go to the church. I didn't know what. As I was, I sat there. I never. Had such a service before and I didn't know what to preach and I just opened the Bible and then I I saw a scripture which said. He that has clean. Hands. Shall work. Stronger and stronger. So I didn't know I had no because it was a difficult environment to preach. I left them with their impressions. That is why many of those people go keep on checking on my on our website to find out we have more than 10,000. People visiting their website. In a week, yeah. More than 10,000, yeah. They are all checking. Whether we are there? What are we doing? Is it OK? Is it working? Why are they still? There, yeah, but. You just leave it. If you are good or if it's what is true spine. But to endure lies and fabrications and stories? I remember when I got married, when I got married, I got married before I had a wedding. I mean we had a ceremony in church and everything, but later on we did a big wedding and this was just a small one. We got married in the six months later because my father wasn't around and I wanted to get married and I needed to get married. I said look where I have reached. I need to be married now. The hour is come. The Son of Man must be glorified. The art of war struck your mind. You don't fight what you cannot fight what? I saw what was coming, I realized I cannot fight it. So when I got married, because of course it was a small ceremony, people were not like they had. People heard that I got married. So I remember shortly after that my wife wasn't well when she had malaria or something. So she went to the, she went to a lab. To do a test. And somebody met her and then some people got the impression she was pregnant. That is why he got married. So that was it. Whether the first day that I ever slept with my wife was the day that we got married or it was before. Do you understand? God is the one who knows. Do you think I I? Should I bring photographs? Should I bring diagrams? Do I have to bring? Evidence to show that my wife was a. Virgin or I was a virgin. That I have to bring the evidence of the day before we got my Can I do all that? So just. Have the impression that you have. It's not a problem, it's. OK, you have to. Remind that you want to have. It's not a problem. We just flow with it that way, yeah. If it means you have to. Allow people to have very bad. Minds about you A. Pastor is somebody who people have, different people have. Different opinions about something you are very good, something you are very bad, something you are a liar. Saying to you. I deceiver different things even as I'm preaching here. Different people have different minds, people have different thought. People know different thing here, different things. It all depends on you. I was born, but not just last weekend. Oh, this morning I wasn't born this morning two people came and bore false witness and what they asked what they said sounded like some of. Jesus preaching. And good liars always have things. That's. Have a link that? Sounds true. A good liar doesn't just come and say, oh, Bishop is, is on the moon, he's an astronaut. Last weekend he went to the moon. He came. You don't say something like that because I mean, I can't just be an astronaut. The first pastor to go to the moon. No, you have to say something more credible. OK #60 + 65 and the high. Priest tore his robes. And said He has blasphemed. What further need do we have of witnesses? Behold, you have now heard the blasphemy. What do you think they answered? He deserves death, that they. Spot in his face. And beat him with their fists and others slapped him and said. Prophecy to us, you Christ. Who is the one who? Hits you, who hits you who hits you. Come and fix it. Who hits you? Another ministry level of ministry is to get to the the place where you look spiritually. Weak. And God wants you to look spiritually powerless. Yeah, once I'm a prophet, gave me a false prophecy and the prophecy didn't happen. But is he? In my maturity, I knew that God wanted him to experience weakness. Is a prophecy the. Prophecy is not coming. Yeah, that's. Why you don't back down when God sent you to start a church? You don't retreat. It's not working. It's going to work. God. God wants you to see that you are nothing. Yeah, many times I preach and the Lord will show me. Finish preaching and sit down. But you know, as a minister sometimes. You want to show the people that look, I have power, I have power. I'm not just. I don't know, just. Giving nice message I. Have I have power? Anointing. I want them. To see signs and wonders, miracles, so that they will fear me. That there's a lot of fear in the church. Prophecy and. The prophecy is not coming when they said the. Prophecy said. Your name is Joshua, I've seen you. Your name is. Rabbi, this I've seen you pharmacy. This I've seen all of you are slapping me. No. No prophecy, no word of knowledge. Weak without prophecies, without prophetic gifts. Sometimes when something happens as if you don't have insight when things are happening. In the church. Do you pray when our walls were? Broken. Somebody asked me, do you pray? Do you have prayer walks? He asked me, do you have prayer walks? You have. Communion, Communion with the ground, he said. The ground must have communion. The ground must drink the blood. Hey. Then I remember 1 pastor came from Nigeria, he came from a winner's. Chapel. And he was sitting there our. Walls had been broken. We had been mercilessly. Brutalized by the government and we were sitting there in our weakness. Then he said to. Me. This cannot happen in Nigeria. Then he told that, he said one time the government wanted to do something and our Bishop, he told them. If you like, come one block. For one life. Every block you remove. One life will go if you are bold, come and remove it. When he said that, I felt so weak because they are not just broken a block, they are broken thousands of blocks, walls, concrete, iron rods. Everything was gone and nobody died. No life. Rather, they became stronger, Stronger they they began to apply for visas to come to England. One of the guys who was the leader of the tormentes I heard he had. Now come to England from Caligon. He has now. Got a job? He's working. He's whatever, I wouldn't be surprised to see him somewhere. They became greater and stronger and more powerful. We look more weak, but there is a place where God will show you you are weak. You have. Nothing you can do, nothing you can say, nothing you can fight. That's just the way it is. What do you think, huh? That's just the way it is. Professor and. His pass on it? Who did it? Who did it you couldn't see? How about you? A prophet? All right, Prophet, again, give us no come, give us no come say something but you say by man of God. That's why many men of God are shy to show that they are sick. They are ashamed to to say that they are not feeling well, like a man of God who has been ministering this to the. Sick. How can you have? Fever. When Mrs. Saki died, I felt so useless. Oh, as I sat there, Sasaki. Was sitting by me at his head, lying here, I said to myself. What? What kind of useless person are you? Look at what has happened. You couldn't see it. You couldn't prevent it. Couldn't fight it and when she died I forgot him to pray. And we were there. The thought of raising the dead it it came some days later. Hey, and as we were standing there, it never even occurred to me when we were taking her to the mochi. That's why don't you pray raise. Her from the dead or something? Later, a brother came from another. He said look he has, he feels that we should raise her from the dead about a week later. And he was. Very, very upset. With us now we, we, we, we were not, I mean, we were not showing any interest in raising hair from the dead. And he wanted. To employ us to go with him. To go and raise the dead. And my my point was that look. That I even left. That I left them to continue the discussion and I was in the house and they had come there talking so many things, so many God says this God we cannot allow the divine something. This isn't so when they told. Me, I said let him please go and we can show him. A particular much that go and raise him and bring him to us we will. Be so happy. No, not against it. Prophecy there's. Nothing left about you. No power, Mercy. Now Peter was standing. Sitting outside the courtyard and a servant girl came to him and said you two were with Jesus the Galilean. But he denied it before them all, saying, I do not know what you are talking about. When he had gone out of the gateway, another seven girls saw him and said to those who were there, This man was with Jesus of Nazareth, and again he denied it with an oath. He says I did. Not know the man. You get to a point where people don't call you by your name and they call you our man. The man, the old man, the old man, the man, our man. And they give you names. Forgive. Then a little later bystanders came up and said to Peter, surely you are one of them, for even the way you talk gives you away. Then he began to kiss and to swear. I do not know the man. And immediately a rooster crowed. And Peter, remember with the Lord the words which Jesus has said before. A rooster crows. You will deny me three times. And he went out and wept bitterly. Amen. Hallelujah. Stand up everybody. Ask God to give you an opportunity to work for him. This privilege, this great opportunity. Father, thank you. Grant me this privilege. Grant me this privilege to serve you. Grant me this privilege to work for you. Grant me this privilege to save you. Lord, Thank you, Holy Spirit. Thank you, Holy Spirit. Thank you Holy Spirit for this privilege in the name of Jesus. We thank you Lord for your blessing. Lord, in Jesus name, Amen. You may be seated.