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08. Church Planting Will Deliver You From Disloyalty

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
May 31, 2025 46m 45s

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Camp Title - Mission South Africa ‘Prepare The Way of The Lord’. Machaneh Collection - 89. Preached in 2014, South Africa (Krugersdorp) Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications

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Welcome to track number. 8. Of Mission South Africa Church planting will deliver you from disloyalty. Yeah, church planting will deliver you from disloyalty. One of the things that starts disloyalty is criticism. When you criticise, you start to move into disloyalty. Do you understand when you are not doing something? It is easy to criticise, but when you get into a particular position you start to realise what the person has done. For instance building. If you've never built before, you will not value building. The day you start a building project you will start to see that even to raise the funds. You shouldn't have criticized somebody when he was raising funds because you realize that you don't have money. And so just getting into the church work, you, you, you, you just change. And you, how many have appreciated me more since you started churches? Far more, isn't it? Yeah, far more. At first, you used to see me somewhere. Maybe you didn't see me somewhere, but you used to see me in a certain way which was neutral. A neutral way. But after some time, when you started church, one year one of my pastors, there was an Orango in the church

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Welcome to track number. 8. Of Mission South Africa Church planting will deliver you from disloyalty. Yeah, church planting will deliver you from disloyalty. One of the things that starts disloyalty is criticism. When you criticise, you start to move into disloyalty. Do you understand when you are not doing something? It is easy to criticise, but when you get into a particular position you start to realise what the person has done. For instance building. If you've never built before, you will not value building. The day you start a building project you will start to see that even to raise the funds. You shouldn't have criticized somebody when he was raising funds because you realize that you don't have money. And so just getting into the church work, you, you, you, you just change. And you, how many have appreciated me more since you started churches? Far more, isn't it? Yeah, far more. At first, you used to see me somewhere. Maybe you didn't see me somewhere, but you used to see me in a certain way which was neutral. A neutral way. But after some time, when you started church, one year one of my pastors, there was an Orango in the church. He was not behaving well. And I started to deal with him when I was dealing with him, when I dealt with him, he, he told me that I'm being too hot on the guy. And he told me, you know, Bishop, don't you think there's another way to go about this thing? I said, wow. And I told him there is no other way, This is the way. But I didn't really believe. So his assistant started to do the same thing to him that my assistant was doing to me. He was surprised. Then he had a dream. Not my dream, his own dream. In the dream, he was fighting with a ninja. You know, ninja. What is a ninja? Japanese. You can only see the eyes. Yeah, it's that the guy came to attack him, and this guy was a ninja and his head was covered in his dream. He fucked with this guy. He didn't know who it was. Then in the middle of the fight. You see how you can put your hand on somebody's wig and pull it off? He. Held a guy like. This and pulled off the head the ninja covering when he pulled off the head it was his associate pastor who was a ninja fighting with him. So he told me that I have seen that my assistant and when he found out more the guy was undermining him seriously. So he told me, I think he sacked the guy, did so I told him I called him, I said. Is there no other? Way to go about. How? You are doing this and how you are dealing with this disloyal guy who has been criticizing you. Everything that he called behind his back, talking about money, the way he's behaving, the way he's going about this, it's not the right way, this and that. He sucked him. I think he even caused him because later I saw the guy so that the guy couldn't prosper. I used to tell him that this guy cannot prosper. Are you sure you have not caused him? Because now I don't care, Sir. Rangus. I don't care anybody who. Lives, I don't care them. So I said, Are you sure that you have been cursing him? But I don't care, Rangus. Nice. Imam, I, I sack you, I separate from you. I don't care that because many of them are also my children. You get it. Maybe they would change later. And he said no, no, no, no. Bishop, there is no. Other, he said. You were too gentle, the way you. Were going about. This were too gentle. Yeah, I'm telling you a true. Story. I'm not making it up. He said your way was, you were too. Kind you were too. What you call it? You see, when you start doing the church work, you will be amazed how you will understand the book Loyalty and Disloyalty. You will understand those who leave you, those who forget, those who accuse you, those who pretend. You will understand it, you will understand all these leaders and loyalty, Those who are ignorant, you will understand it. But when you are not involved in the work. You will look so many. People have looked at me from where they stood and criticised till they started doing church work. When you start doing church work, you realise you must erect a fence around your farm otherwise. Wild. Boars and wild animals will come in, and a lot of wild animals which we must defend ourselves. Against. Are you listening to me? Amen. So, ladies and gentlemen, I want you to get involved in a check because it's going to. Really. Protect you from this loyalty and becoming critical of somebody you shouldn't criticise. Don't criticise. Me. Oh, pray for me. Don't criticise your pastor. Pray for your pastor. If you see people who want to become critical and all that, look, there is nobody who is working, who is even good. It is imperfect ministering to imperfect. Don't forget that. Don't be angry with us if we preach too long or too short. Don't be angry with us. Do you understand? If we do anything. Too much or wrongly? Just pray, you know, and pray when you get into this position, we see how you behave. Some of you wouldn't even come here at all. You wouldn't come here at all. You can ask my secretary the places I'm invited to here, here, here. If I was to follow that, I'll never visit any lighthouse church again. But when I go to a light, when I go there, they give me they pay for me to come and they they pay me for coming. Yeah, like you are not. You are not paying me for anything. Yeah, yeah. So I mean. If you were me, some of you by long ago you would have moved into. Say bye. Bye. You were my launching pad. See you later. The world meets me. Yeah. I can show you plenty. Letters play invitation to Korea. Invitation to hear Malaysia and to hear different different places. I can we go. So check with this one. Just now I just cancelled. Some people have invited me to Korea, I said. Check check and see. How? Who are they? How many people are there? They said that I just cancel it. You can't go there. Yeah. Plenty. Venezuela, Yeah. Play invitations. I can't. Go if you were me. So maybe my mistake is that I just preach a 30 minutes extra. You get what I'm saying? 30 minutes long because I don't know when I'll see you again. I'm preaching 30 minutes longer and you get angry with me. Oh. Is it nice? Oh, I use water to. Bomb you and you are. Angry is it? Right to be angry. I'm just playing with you. I shouldn't play with you when you see your children. You shouldn't play with them. Oh. So. Try, try hard. You know, when you start doing the same thing, you'll be amazed. You'll be amazed how you would even do it. Yeah, how you would even do it. Yeah. One day, you know, I was having a meeting in the office and there was a big disturbance. Somebody was causing a disturbance and they didn't like the boss. The boss was a lady and I told all of the people that I said you are all some way. The body didn't like her and she was dealing with her and she was, she pointed out to. You, you are like this. You did this, You said this when Bishop was upstairs. You said this about him. You said she brought everybody. She didn't. Fear them at all, she told them. You. Is that what? Bishop said I should. Do this, you sweat. He left, you said. That Bishop is. Like this, but he doesn't know this, this and that. So many funny comments, she said. This what you said you do this what you said. Say you said this, you said this. They didn't like her at all, and I put her there. Then when I thought another day, well, either they or other they, I asked them in another group, I said, if you were me, who would you make the head of this particular department? They said, oh, if I was you, I would make that Lady the head. But they know that she's the one who will really get the thing done. But they don't like her. But they know that if they were. In my position. They will still put that person there so you you may. Criticise me for working with that person, but if you wear in my shoes, you may. Find that you work. With the same. Person or a Wilder? Vision. True or not true? So maybe you don't like somebody. That I'm working with as I'm doing my church planting. You get what I'm trying to say. You don't like the person, but if you wear in my shoes, you started doing the small test. You start working with somebody like that or finding somebody like that, and you start with. This person is the one who does this. Why? But because you've never done this work before, you don't know anything about what it is to be in that situation. So just get involved. In the church planting it will. Deliver you of. Disloyalty automatically by default a lot of disloyalty aspects of you will go away yeah, I flow with Bishop Duncan Williams I I can identify with a lot of issues that he has because I've. Also started a church. And I've also been around for a long time. And seeing he's only. Six years older than. Me. Yeah, When I was in Form 1, he was in sixth form. I mean, he would have been in sixth form, Yeah. Are you still, are you still there? Oh, you are going home? Yeah. So don't, don't, don't, don't be. Angry. Don't be angry. Just do some of the work. And you will be surprised. Why does this guy have to sing? When you get into my situation, you will know why somebody is singing somebody you don't want to sing, somebody you don't feel right with this person. Why is he around? We see, we see. Yes, Soon as you start to do the things, then you start to see. Why? Why does he have a bodyguard? When you start to do or, you may have 10. You may have 10 here. Why does he do this? The day you start you, you just may be waba. So pray, OK? Why does he hold a basket and take off like that? You see the? This one drive on the right. This one drive on the left. Have we asked you for anything? The day you get into my shoes, you'll be surprised. Yeah, we went to have a crusade in a certain country whose name is in the 1st 5 alphabets. Yeah, they told us do not take an offering. Do not take offerings here. When I heard, I said. Wow. We were new in that area. So I told you, don't take offering. When we left, we we, we were impoverished because the offering, we needed it. We need the offering. Every. Time we need it. So I came back to that country later again that this time this country begins with the 1st 15 alphabets. Now they said don't take off. I said we will take, we will take all the pastors from committee. They said the council of the churches of whatever of that country are coming together. They said do not take offering in public. I said we would take it, we would take it in, we would brace France. We would give envelopes, we would shout, we would do. Everything because when I'm driving back. 2000 kilometers. To where I came from, nobody is going to give me the one gallon of petrol to carry all these cars out. As you didn't take offering, I said you can all pull. Out of the crusade. Everywhere we went, they were in conflict with us. We said if we will, by all mistakes, so you come back out of there, we will have the crusade without you. When you get into my shoes, instead of sitting down there and criticizing you, you realize that you there you will not, you will not even have the crusade that all the people are condemned to hell, because you will not be prepared to take an offering. It's true, they are on them. They should all go to hell. You may be surprised when you go to Heaven that healing suggests Crusade has won more souls than Lighthouse Chapel International. Yeah, because we, we we've crossed over 1,000,000 millions of souls now. Yeah, we are almost or I don't know whether we've got 10 million souls. Our aim is 100 million souls. You'll be surprised that the Crusade will have won more. Souls than the church. When you go, you see Muslims, so many people also Guinea all these. People, you see, all are Muslims, 100%. There is no Christianity there. We went to a pastor's conference. They put 10 benches there. Only three people were on. This is a pastor's conference. 123 people. There's no pastor. There, in these towns, the towns you saw on the programme, there, there's no pastor. Nobody can stay there, no. Check wants to go. All the people, all these crowds. Everybody gave their life to Christ every day. Their names are written in the book of life. Most lives you wait and see when you go to them, you see so many so. When you get into my shoes, you say Bishop, ha, it is good. You have partners? Why does he need partners when he has church members? When you get into my shoes, you have partners too. You there you have what? What? Shareholders, shareholders, stakeholders, donor. Communities. So remember, do not criticise, just get involved in the web. You know what? I'll invite all of you when we come, when we started South Africa later this year here in South Africa. Make sure you come for the crusade, and we will. Let you be the treasurer. Yes, and then you have to count the money and. Pay all the bills and. Then you shut your dirty mouth full of criticisms and change it into praises and say what a good leader, what a wise man, what a wonderful evangelist. What a Good Shepherd. Who has left the 99 and has gone to look for one? Babu says a good. Shepherd not a good evangelist. A good pastor leaves. The 99 goes to look for the one. He's not a good evangelist, a good pastor, a Good Shepherd. He leaves the 91. He goes to look for lost sheep. As I'm looking for later of saying that I'm a Good Shepherd, you are saying bad things about me. Pardon me, check. What is your neighbor who was saying that thing? Is it your neighbor who said clear? Who said clear now? All of us, you see, as a father. You must be cooler than me when it comes to dealing with Orangus and rebels who take our members away hard. And that's when you go, what's taken that film taken. You must be. Wild and I must be cool. When somebody has come to take all of our shepherds or singers, you must go wild and I have to come. You don't say hold down this simple walking laugh. Don't whatever. Walking laugh, walking laugh. It's OK. I. Have to be calming you down. I'm the father, not that. I'm wild. I'll come and I'm screaming and fighting and saying things and then. You are just looking at me quiet and say. This man, what is wrong with him? He should calm down. When I was preaching one day I was fighting Orangus. Somebody was saying that she was further concerned about my blood pressure. But I'm OK. But I'm all right, hey, instead of instead of fighting the Orangus, I have to come and fight the. Orangus. You are concerned about my health instead. Of dealing with them. See. So you must be. One there, don't look at how we are struggling to start churches. It's a fight. Can you see that I'm fighting? Yeah, I'm. Fighting to start. Churches. To build churches and raise. Our fastest It's a fight for somebody to come and just take 30 of the chairperson, instrumentalists and people who have been in the church for years. What do mean? Yeah, somebody was doing that in Johannesburg. Is it not true? Yeah, we don't suffer fools gladly. We don't accept this nonsense. We will. Face you one Hey, we will fight you. You know how difficult it is to start a church? We don't accept those. Things at all we have no. One pastor came said that he's leading God as I said. When you leave. You go. I've never prayed for you. Now if you come inside, I should pray for you. I will never pray for you. When you go and I see that you haven't. Caused any problem later after some years. I can pray. For you, if I'm sure that you haven't caused any problem, yeah. But as you are going now, how should I pray for you? I've prayed for enough. Devils. To add you to the. List. Yeah, it's true for. When you bless a devil, you will prosper, and you are blessing you to oppose us. So. Later if I see that. Your living is peaceful. You didn't take the church. You didn't spoil the church. You will be blessed because you are free to go, but don't spoil the chest that we are fighting too hard and sweat look. Since you have been. Here since 1:00. Is it 1:00? Yeah. We started this session at 1:00. O'clock 12:00. Yeah, it's 6:00. Six hours you have been sitting here happily. Wow, so. We will not suffer fools gladly. It's an expression in the Bible. We don't allow foolishness. Tell your neighbor, are you planning to be an Orangu? Are you planning now? Tell the person I'm serious. I want to know. Tell the person that I will become your enemy. Don't say that we have isolated when when you leave. Don't say we have isolated you. Don't say we are not friendly to you. Don't say that it's a tech we cannot leave. What do you mean by that? Where did you? Where did you get that from? It's a tech you cannot leave. Talk nonsense. When you want to. Misbehave. Misbehaviour, don't stop nonsense. And we will not accept it. Wow. They have been coming for camps, you came for titles in great. Me another one. And before I realized I will call them, I said call. Them again, I said I. Forgot to tell them. Some of the points. What a blessing to have a church. If. If I hadn't, if I hadn't started a church, I would have criticized Bishop Dunker Williams all the time. All the time. But rather, I admire him and I learnt from him. Yeah, I would have criticized him all the time. I said why does he have this car? Can this car can buy 20 cars for other other humble pastors? That's what I would have said. Wow, it's true. But as I'm doing it, yeah, I've. Become quiet, Yeah. Yes, one day when I I was internal attacks people, they came to investigate us as criminals. They have normal investigators, but they came as criminal during the revolution. The government wanted to take us on and attack us, so they sent them to come and investigate us as criminals. So they brought some forms. We filled the form maybe. And I met him at a concert, Ron Cannoli concert. And I said. Bishop, these people are. Harassing. Me. They made me fill this form. I thought he was. Going to. Say, oh, sorry or something, he said. I filled that form five times. That same form, that form you, I fill, I fill it five times. You have just come. You are new. I filled that form five times. You are new as I'm standing there. You don't know what I've been to. Yeah, you've been coming to these. Churches to preach you. Prophet Sias the churches you preach in, this is how they were made. This is the hard, hard labor that forms the churches that you have a place. To go and have conventions in and they will be. Clapping for you, praising you, taking offerings and giving to you. This is how they are made. This is the work, this and the pastors who come and have. Conventions and go. This is the this is the underground of the church. This is the amber. Where it is cooked. This is where the chickens are killed and the goats are screaming. That's nice to you. You've been eating. This is where. This is where it starts. Yeah. The tiredness. This is the anger of it. The tiredness. Yes. This is where it happens. You don't know when you start to do 1. You will see what it means to have a chance or. Even to send somebody. Or to train somebody or to even send somebody away when the person is risking his own life and you are also risking your life by sending the person. Out there, yeah, You understand it. You will not criticize at all. You will be filled with admiration, yeah, the Archbishop said. Failed that from 5. He didn't say anything pray for me or even he was just listen. Oh, I've. Done it 5. Times, yes. Welcome to the club. Of. Ministers at a certain. Level. In, in, in the. System, yeah. Wow, Are you listening to me? Are you going to cure yourself of the dangers of criticism? By doing what? Yeah, As you are preaching, said, the church is not growing. So some of you may feel that I'm preaching too long. So you go and preach short and say that the church is getting finished with the short pitches. Then you. Start saying to yourself, ah, maybe I should preach not like Bishop because people still come when he preaches. So you see, you don't be sure which one is good, Yeah. Oh, I'm not. I'm not worried. I'll preach until I finish. It's not about time. We are not here by time. I also know how look, I have. I preach at places where they give me 40 minutes to preach, 20. When I go to Korea, they give me 40 minutes, tell me 20 minutes to own preaching and 20 minutes interpreter. So my sermon is 20 minutes. Yeah, and other places. And I I never go over time. I know how to pitch short. Messages very short. And I'll be. Invited back? No, that I'm saying that I'm glad that it's like it was. Good. So I don't think I I know. I know after Bishop there, he's like an old man, he told me, telling stories. He's always talking for a lot, no? Who? Who is that? Who is that check? Is it in this area? OK, ceasefire, ceasefire. There's a negotiated settlement. These people say it's these people. And these people say this. People say it's OK. Some of you don't know Apostle Kingsley. Yeah, some of you don't know him. You know him, but some of you were not here when he came at the beginning. So some of you, you you feel maybe he hasn't done anything. I see. When you when you get involved in the church and you know how it is to get 30 people so that now there are 30 people, some of whom are still here today, out of which can grow even Reverend Adebuyeste, the biggest church in the world, he. Had he didn't. Start with zero. He had about 40 or 50 people, something like that, or 100, and then it has become 2,000,000. Yeah, even the one who started it, you will not know. This is how it begins. Like this. It's hard. It's not easy. Oh yeah, I'd rather be out there. Looking for lions or trying to You think I don't know how to relax, be out looking for lions and if for potamosis I'm preaching what I'll preach the same preaching that I'll preach again and again and again and again. Yeah, this is how it's done. Yeah, somebody said to me. Where do you get? All these pastors, from where do you get them from? You know where I get them from? Where? Here. This is the underground where we are digging the pastors out of the ground and I'm looking at the pastors. I'm looking at you now. Yeah, I see you. I see you. It's totally working. I know it's working. Be anointed in Jesus name. Be free of criticism in Jesus name. And free and free, Yeah, be free of criticism. Anything. You don't understand, Just close your eyes and pray, Lord, let me understand it later. Even if I don't understand later, I will understand it. Yeah, so that your. Own words don't fight. You, when you get there, when you get there and you have to do certain things, they start to fight you. Yeah. Wow. See, right now what I'm doing, I'm building churches room for somebody to come and have conventions in. I'm not going to have conventions. I'm going to have others. Who have conventions, celebrations, miracles and other things. Congregations will be coming. We are going to have more coming together. Programs. Oh yeah, more great. Yeah. Miracles and manifestations. Wow. Times of glory. Don't criticize, don't criticize, learn it. Don't say. Don't sit there and say one of them. Don't say it's a Ghanaian thing. Don't say that as soon as you start that the spirit in South Africa is coming to the church. The spirit of this is black, this is white, this is this, this is this, this, pause, everything. Don't say that. How many S Africans have we tried and are we trying to raise? Up its tribe, you know yourselves. Don't say Ghanaian. When I send you and I try to raise you up, I say I'm carrying something in South Africa. Don't say Ghana, say Ghanaian thing. You. Have to be found in another country as we see you in Gambia. You don't criticise A Ghanaian who has come here. Shame on yourself rather for not being able to go anywhere. Shame on yourself. Which country? Can you go to and speak to them for them to even follow you? What we have come to do here, you rather have the audacity to stand somewhere and say something about Ghana or Ghanaian. Don't let me curse you to wither. Yes, you should rather say shame on shame on us, that we I can't find any South Africa standing even just in. Zimbabwe just in Zimbabwe next door or Botswana say that the South Africans S Africans have spread into Botswana and they have started churches in Malawi and this and that where where there's nothing there is 0. Don't start racism. You get a dead, you get that you'll be blown like a paper. A dry leaf. Will be carried away. Yeah. Don't start it. Don't even mention it. You see? Thoughts that come to us, they never become sane till they are spoken, because Jesus said. It is not what? Enters your mouth that defiles you. But that which? Comes out for from. Within out of the heart. It comes and then it comes out of your mouth. That is what. Defiles you the number of negative thoughts that. Pass through our. System is a lot. If that was defiling us, then we would be most defiled, I said. Come on, grow up if this money comes. Out of your mouth, you see the. Fact that it didn't. Come out of your mouth. Means that it is deep in your heart that you if they think of something like that. And it. Defiles you. Yeah, so don't. That is why someone said yeah, but I just made, I just made a comment about this. No, it's not taken lightly. Is it? Because As for thoughts. They are always coming, they come, they go, they come. But when it comes enough for you to say it, then you've gone into something. That is why criticising memory, what you say, we have to dissect and analyse what it means for you to say something like that. That's why in the loyalty book we have comments, things that. People say. In the book of Formula on Humility you will see a. Chapter proud speaking what it means setting comments when you. Say this what it means. It's not neutral, it means a lot. The Bible say by your words. You shall be justified. And by your words you shall be condemned. How many have have had thoughts of? Having sex with somebody who is not your husband or wife before. Raise your hand honestly before I say. Something to you? Raise up your hand. It is as happy to you before. Raise up your hand. Yeah. Is it now? Raise up your hand. Yeah, but listen to me. Listen the. Day. Listen, the day that you are defiled is the day when you start to say it. I want to sleep with this man. I'm in love with this man. I love this girl. I want to sleep with her. I want to. Then the thing has moved to another level. But As for it occurring to you? It will, OK. It will OK. Even when it comes, it I came before, it has already come. Yeah, yeah. That's for that the. Bible says that what? Comes out, he said. This is. It is not. Come out from your mouth that develops out of from within. It is that's when you are defiled, not when not that is. Come through your thoughts. Oh yeah, I'm sure some of you are happy to hear what I'm saying. Now you are sitting quietly like that. You should have been started dancing by now. 1st as I did not. Happen to you? So it's a personal. Problem. So the same thing goes for disloyalty. You may be sitting here thinking to yourself that. Can he not see that? We it's time to close or. You may be thinking to yourself, can he not see that? It's supper time, you understand? No, no, no. You wait. You leave them. Wait. I know what I'm saying. You leave them. But if it comes. Out of your mouth. Then, then it, it, it is a real thing. It's like, it's like, it is like something that's. Formed. Yes, it's. It's like a developed. It's like a baby in you. You gave. Birth to it, yeah. So it's like it's never a child. And when you get there, it's like a real. Thing that has come out. So when you. You change them. Can you not see? Now it's time. What else does he want to say? Do you understand for six hours what does that we want? To say again. Oh, you don't. Understand what I'm saying? But when you say it, it becomes a child. You give him birth. That is when you say that was a these things come from, for they come from with the evil thoughts. But it is the evil thought comes out of your mouth, man. It is the same. These are the words of Jesus. Are you still around? Wow. So we cannot let your thoughts, we can let your thoughts get goose caught free. But your words, we'll analyze it. We'll take you on. You said this didn't. You. This means this isn't it. If you say this is what it means, how many? I've had bad thoughts before. Raise your hand see all these section. I've had bad thoughts, but when the thought comes out of your mouth, then it's really something substantial and it's evil and you need to be free of that thing. It's a spirit. Stand up on your feet. Make sure you come back early after supper. We start at 8:00. Amen. Lift up your hands, on your heart. Pray against disloyal spirits coming out of your mouth. Never again. Thank you, Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus. Thank you, Lord, in the mighty name of Jesus, we give you thanks. Pray for a moment. The. Thank you, Lord. Hallelujah. Amen.