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08. Anagkazo

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
July 6, 2025 1h 30m

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Camp Title - Mission Africa ‘The Ministry of The Sower’. Machaneh Collection - 90. Preached in 2014, Zambia (Livingstone). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications

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Welcome to crack #8 of Mission Africa. If I give my life to you, I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen? Do you want to hear it? I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. You, you, you. Are you ready to listen? Oh, do you want to hear it? I've got a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. You, Are you ready? Ready to listen? Do you want to hear? I'm serious. I have a message from the Lord. Jesus sent me to you. I need a response. Are you ready to listen? Do you want to hear it? OK. Did I make a mistake when I chose you? Should I have chosen another person or anointed another one? And how many times will I give you visions and powerful convictions? Still, you don't obey the reason why I'm asking this question 'cause you take it so lightly. You take me so lightly. If I give my life to you, will you give your life to me? And if I die for you, will you die for me too? If I shed my blood for you, oh, what will you do with it? Will you despise my blood, or will you treasure it? Listen, what is the point of showing so much love when I get so little feedback from the person I love so dearly?

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Welcome to crack #8 of Mission Africa. If I give my life to you, I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. Are you ready to listen? Do you want to hear it? I have a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. You, you, you. Are you ready to listen? Oh, do you want to hear it? I've got a message from the Lord Jesus sent me to you. You, Are you ready? Ready to listen? Do you want to hear? I'm serious. I have a message from the Lord. Jesus sent me to you. I need a response. Are you ready to listen? Do you want to hear it? OK. Did I make a mistake when I chose you? Should I have chosen another person or anointed another one? And how many times will I give you visions and powerful convictions? Still, you don't obey the reason why I'm asking this question 'cause you take it so lightly. You take me so lightly. If I give my life to you, will you give your life to me? And if I die for you, will you die for me too? If I shed my blood for you, oh, what will you do with it? Will you despise my blood, or will you treasure it? Listen, what is the point of showing so much love when I get so little feedback from the person I love so dearly? I want to know if it all means nothing to you. What I'm saying doesn't touch you. Don't you care about my nation? The reason why I'm speaking this way 'cause you take it so lightly. You take me so lightly. If I give my life for you, will you give your life for me? And if I die for you, will you die for me too? And if I shed my prayers, I do not for you, what do you do with it? Will you despise my blood? Will your treasure be? Hey, God so loved the world that he can is only begotten. Whoever believes in Jesus should not carry but have new life. God commended his love toward us and while we were yet sinners, Jesus died of the cross for sinners. So the reason why I'm quoting this scripture, it's because you've forgotten all about this Jesus give his life for you. What did you do with it? Did you give him your heart and did you love him back? Jesus gave his life for you and what did you do with it? Did you give him your heart and did you love him back? Shall I turn my attention from you to an appreciative person who will not take my love for granted? And do you know how long I've been waiting? Have I waited in vain for nothing? It seems that you've never really loved me. The reason why, hey, I'm speaking this way, it's because you broke my heart and you took me for granted. Oh, if I give my life for you, what will you do with it? Will you give me your heart? Will you treasure me if I shed my blood for you? Oh, what will you do with it? Will you despise my blood? Will you treasure me if I give my life for you? Will you give your life for me if I die for you? Oh, will you die for me too? I if I shed my blood? Oh, what will you do with it? Will you despise my blood? Will you transfer, baby, If I get my life for you? Oh, oh, what will you do with it? Oh, hey, I appreciate my blood for you. Will you despise my blood? Oh. None. Go into all the world and preach the gospel until your life is done. Go if you love thee. Obey the Great Commission. Build churches everywhere, in every town, every province, every city. I think I shall be the same. Tell me, how long is it going to take for you to obey me? I have a feeling that I'm waiting in vain. Oh, waiting for you to. Oh, baby, I have a feeling. Gotta waiting in bed for you to do my way. Is he gonna wait in bed for your love? Is he gonna wait in vain for your life? Is he gonna wait in vain for you? Is he gonna wait in vain for your life? Wait, Do you remember what I told you? I told you built a mega church and I told you have a burning vision. Your vision must be big. But all you do does not lead to church growth. Your mind is on other things. So I've been thinking, thinking to myself that I'm wasting time on you. I want to change. Change your position. We bless you and bring in someone else, 'cause it seems I have a feeling that I'm waiting, just waiting, waiting, waiting in vain for you to obey me. I have a feeling that I'm waiting in vain for you to do my will. That's why I'm saying, Am I gonna wait in vain for your life? Wait. Am I gonna wait in vain for your life? Oh, am I gonna wait in vain for your life? Am I gonna wait in vain for you? Oh, why are you so hard? Why are you so difficult? Why don't you want to fool? And why? Don't you want to say? Like I said, for a long time I've been calling out to you. There's always an excuse, build a mega church, a mega church, but always excuses. More and more excuses. Honestly, I don't think think that you love me. Your heart is somewhere else. If you love me, hey. If you love me, hey, you don't, baby. You would walk much harder now. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. But I have a feeling that I'm waiting in vain for you to open me. Now you're listening to me. See, I have a feeling that I'm waiting in vain for you to do my win. God is asking, hey, is he going to win? Win for your life. What is he gonna wait in bed for your life? Is he gonna wait in bed for your life? Is he gonna wait in bed for your love? Is. He gonna, is he gonna? Is he gonna, Is he gonna Is he gonna wait in bed? Is he gonna is he gonna is he gonna is he gonna, is he gonna don't just sing a song. Is he gonna? Think about it, think about it, think about it a little while. Is he gonna is he gonna? Is he gonna? Is God is thinking to himself? He's saying am I gonna am I gonna am I gonna am I gonna am I gonna ready? Oh, am I gonna, am I gonna, AM I gonna, am I gonna, am I gonna take music? Am I gonna, am I gonna, am I gonna, am I gonna, am I gonna wedding? But God is asking, am I gonna, am I gonna, am I gonna, am I gonna, am I gonna wedding thing? Am I gonna. I've been waiting, waiting, waiting. Waiting for a mega church, Waiting for you to grow, Waiting for you to mature, Waiting for you to build churches, waiting for you to spread the gospel, waiting for you. I've been waiting for you. I've been waiting. I've been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. I'm I gonna. I'm I gonna, I'm I gonna. Hallelujah. Is he going to wait in vain for your life? Is he going to wait in vain for a mega chance? Waiting in vain? Is he going to wait in vain? Waited for nothing? Mercy. Well, Father, we thank you for your blessed Holy Spirit today. In the name of Jesus, Amen. Now we are. Sit down, please. My subject is Anakazu, Amen. Anakazu is the Jesus story of Church Grove. Amen. Use anacazzle to prepare a great supper. Jesus said go out and compel the people to come in. When he said that he used a word, a word anacazzle. Drive them, force them, necessitate. But especially the word that is of great interest to me is the word drive. And that word is revealing as an instruction which is contrary to 2/3 of us is contrary to 2/3 of our nature, you see. And in Africa we are a lot of us are peaceful people, very peaceful. In fact, I read a book about Africa and he was he was saying that the people of Africa are so easygoing, music loving, peaceful people. And that is why dictators of all sorts have had a field day. Because if in this modern world people have been dictators in the way we have had some people in Africa, they wouldn't have been taking it easy the way we are. Very cool people are chopping the money, telling us lies on television, and we are also flowing. We honor them when they come around. We we like them, we flow with them, we sing songs, we thank them, we praise them and they loot the whole country and we are just flowing in it. People are dying. White people don't take such things. Long ago, when America was colonizing England and keeping them under, long, long ago, they revolted. More than 200 years ago they said no way, no way. You can't sit in a parliament in England and decide what we should do here in America, even though we are from there. And the British troops were there. So that was their first war, the War of independence. And after that they had another war over slaves. That was a civil war. So America has had two wars in their country. The first war was to drive away because Britain was the all the people in America came from Europe, mostly from England. All right, so you you see places like New England and or they're all English names. You get it. So but why people don't take this kind of whatever? So we are very cool. People will load it over over us and then we just tell Flo and even thank them. And it's because we are more plagmatic. You get what I'm saying. And and so it takes a great drive to build. You see, building is difficult. Plumbers, Masons, electricians, most of them tell lies and most of them delay. They don't do what they are supposed to do, not only in Ghana or in Zambia, but even in France. I was once involved with a brother who was building a house in France and they were struggling with the electricians and the plumbers. And I said, but it's just like, and I said, oh, these people, it's the same, you know, So it takes a drive to build. That's why black people have built almost nothing. If you go to Maputo good example you see where the high rise at Maputo if it is 100m square. The 1st 50 meters squared was built by the white people who left in 1975. From then onwards, the rest is flat, like a village. There's no more houses. That's fantastic. From 1975 onwards. Yeah. The great monument that they have there is a, is a runabout with the, the dead people buried inside the runabout, their heads of state, you know, it's fantastic. So you need a drive. Jesus said go out and compel them or drive them. And to drive somebody you must be driven, you know, So if you are not driven, you, you don't achieve much. And this is the reason why Nigerians have Tetris in Zambia. Although I've never been to see any Nigerian church, I am sure are they not in Zambia? And Nigerians will have churches in Zimbabwe, are they not there? And Nigerians will have churches in Malawi, are they not there? But Malawian will not have a church in Ghana and as Zambian will not see him doing a big church in Nigeria, Why? Is it because one group is superior to the other? No, it is because one has a nature which is more driven. Nigerians are more driven, driving people, you see. So you see even these Boko Harams and what have you in the north of Nigeria, it's like they are fighting to separate a part of Nigeria, I mean by force saying that it will be ruled by Sharia law, whatever, you know, And I mean, Nigerian Christians are the best Christians to fight such things. They will not also sit down for you to just walk over them. You know, well, you, you need to be driven. So the largest church in England is Nigerian pastor, largest church in Europe, Nigerian pastor, all of them. We have this drive, not Ghanaian. Those Ghanaians are more calmer. Nigerians say that Ghanaians are poor and proud. We are sorry for our pride and all that, but when you travel, you start to see these differences. Are you? Are you with me? So brothers and sisters, we need to now say if I am not like that, naturally I must adopt that so that in my exam I will get the same grades for all areas, the ones I don't like. And the ones I like, I'm good at doing them. Amen. Wow. And in marriage, you must be good in all the areas, the ones you like and the ones you don't like. But when you marry some of the things we don't like and some of them we like, you get what I'm saying? Yeah. So the ones you don't like you must be good at them and the ones you like to also be good and it's easier, that's all. But that's how life is. So if your child gets up and says I don't like maths, I don't want English, I don't want you can't. You can't say that at a certain stage. You have to do everything, including the ones you don't like. So let us rise up and build with a drive and a castle. So the anacazo must be used to prepare a big supper #2 It must be prepared to do and influence a lot of people, because a great a settlement bade many people, Amen #3 Anacazo must will lead you to never cancel your service. Never cancel or close down a church. Amen. Anyone who is practicing anacazo is not prepared to back down because this man had people coming for his party but most of the people were not coming and but he still went on and had his party. Is it not true? So if you want to write you say anacazo will help you never to cancel your service or cancel. close down your church. I cannot cancel, I cannot close down, and I cannot back down. This is the kind of person we are looking for in the church. Amen. Somebody who will not turn back. Hallelujah. Somebody who will not be led by the people. You see, people have. Sometimes you see a leader, but you think that he's leading the people, but the people are leading him. He's looking at their faces and doing what they say. And those are the most dangerous people in the world. Herod, during the time of Jesus, Herod, Herod the Great, he was arresting John the Baptist. When he arrested John the Baptist, he was afraid of the masses of the people, so he didn't execute him. Then when so the people influenced him to do what he was doing, like the people made him not do what he he was going to do. Then when he had a party and his daughter danced, right, That shows you the power of the dancing ministry. The dancing ministry is very important in a church. When his daughter danced, he was moved. Yeah, he was moved. And he said he would give his daughter anything up to half of the Kingdom. So he told his daughters they were sitting on the high table. Anything you want, my darling? Up to half of the Kingdom. So the daughter went to ask his mother, Mummy, what should I ask for? Up to half of the Kingdom. And Mummy said they should bring the head, the head of John de Baptist, on a plate. Not that he should be killed. He should bring the head on a plate. So she came as a student and she said, mommy said we should bring the head of John the Baptist on the plate. And everybody was quiet and they were looking. But the Bible says but because of them who sat at the table. Again, you see the people, the people because of them that sat at the table, he said. OK, a head on a plate. Sometimes we say that women have have wicked you see on a plate because of a comment that has been made about her marriage. Yeah. But anyway, a leader must not be led by the people. When you are led by the people, you are very, you can be very evil. You know, John Pontius Pilate, the Bible tells us that Jesus was about to be crucified and he was, he was under trial. And then he said, you know, this man hasn't done anything. So he took, you know, Barabas and offered him as an exchange, you know, and still the people said, no, no, no, no, we want Jesus to die all right. No, the masses, they are very, very dangerous people. The masses, very dangerous, very, very dangerous and very dangerous to follow crowds. Even Napoleon was afraid of of this, because Napoleon saw the King of France being arrested by the masses when they invaded the castle at Versailles. If you go to Paris today, Versailles is part of Paris, but it was a little separate and they had built this fantastic palace. I've been there. And, I mean, he was the king. They went into the palace and took the king out, you know, and took him to prison with his wife. Yeah. They were shouting at them. And Napoleon saw. He said this is a very dangerous thing. He was not comfortable with it, even though he was part of the revolution and he was not comfortable with what they did to the leader. Yeah, he didn't like it at all because it goes out of control when you start to say, hey, kill him, crucify him. This. In the end, they executed the king and they executed his wife. They killed the two of them because after some time they tried to escape and they caught them at the border because the wife was from Austria. She was not a French lady, so she was trying to escape Marie Antoinette. She's the one who brought fashion, the fashion that we have from French fashion. It's from hair, Marie Antoinette, head dresses and fumes. And all those things started from there. Yeah. So the mass is very dangerous. Once again, Proto's pallet was looking. You see his good judgement to say this man should not die. Then he heard a voice. You are not a friend of Caesar. The politics. I'm not a friend of Caesar. I mean, they chose the right button. And there again, he took a wrong decision. That's what I'm saying, that a person who is guided by somebody or by people, no matter who, it's a very dangerous thing. Yeah. So a pastor and a leader must be driven by God and not by how the people look, whether they are happy, must not be driven by your wife, must not be guided by circumstances that is beguided by God. It is the most dangerous thing to not be driven by God. You rarely change into almost a monster when you are not driven by God. When you are driven by any of these other things, none of them have a good end. All right, So Anakazo must make you never give up and cancel because this man was faced with the option of cancelling his party because none of them that were bidden, none. None of the people that were bidden came to the party. Hallelujah. Wow. So what I'm trying to explain is that you must really decide that Zambia is going to have a huge debt with more than 1000 people in one church in one church. And in Zimbabwe Lighthouse is one day going to be one of the largest churches in the whole country. You see, that's the party that you are going to have and once you have that mind that we are building 1 of the largest ever seen in Zimbabwe. Wow. Then you are now being driven by a proper vision that you cannot close down or retreat or change or go away from the country. We will not go away anywhere. Hallelujah. Are you listening to me? Yeah. So you must have this drive. I've told our church in Nigeria that one day they're going to be one of the largest churches in Nigeria. Yeah, they're always surprised when I tell them. But it's not easy to to go as an outsider into Nigeria and start a church there. That all I've been telling them. And gradually it is happening. You'll be surprised that you see the largest churches in Nigeria and it's going to happen in Zimbabwe too. Even though you have big churches already, a time will come. You'll be surprised to say it has happened. 01 of the largest churches in Zimbabwe is this church. Wow. So don't give up because the Anacazo man, he said, Look, I'm having my party. You see, it is a form of stubbornness. But good stubbornness, you see, stubbornness is like witchcraft, in other words, like stubbornness is like a kind of power that is being exerted, illegitimate power and evil power, you see. So when you are also very determined, it's like you are also releasing a kind of power that's a good power this time. So it's like witchcraft in another way. That positive witchcraft, because it's negative stubbornness is like, is just like a power of witchcraft. Like when you see a very stubborn person, it's like a witch. Yes, I'm sure if you marry somebody and she's very stubborn, it's just like you've married a witch. That's about an eighth day apple scrap. It's the same as marrying a witch. Yes, it is a power. The effect is just like, it's like a cat which is brown, short, strangled, poisoned, all results in a power that ended the cat's life. So stubbornness, refusing to change your mind releases a power. It's like you've suddenly met a powerful person. Yeah. If you are buying land and you meet a stubborn person, it's like you've met a powerful person. It's like a witch. Witch is like a witch. Witchcraft is like somebody is using some powers. Uh huh. So in other words, when you meet somebody who is very determined, who will not change his mind, it's like you've met somebody with another power because it's like, why are you not changing your mind? Why are you not changing your mind? Yeah, there must be some reason. Do you see like what Russia is doing in Ukraine, they are invading coming in days that it's like everybody is careful because there must be some reason they might have something. When you present, something will happen, then something else will happen. Then the whole world would get spots over that Ukraine. It can happen. So your determination more determined than Alexander the Great, you will find out that it's like you've met a powerful person, never changing your mind. Hallelujah. So you must go out number four. And a castle will prevent you from having empty churches. Amen. Empty churches. Many of our churches are empty or semi Demi empty or semi empty and they are going to be filled in Jesus name. Do you believe? Yeah, because at the end of this story the church was full. At the end of the story the church was full. The church was full. Wow. Do you see your church being full? Practically, it will happen. Practically, yeah. Once you are determined, it's as though you are a positive witch. Yeah, positive stubbornness is positive witchcraft, but the the positive word for stubbornness is determination. Like in English, positive stubbornness is equal to determination. Like you say. I'm positively stubborn, isn't it? I'm positively stubborn or I'm stubborn in a good way. It's like saying I'm a witch in a good way or a wizard in a good way. Yeah, I'm a positively, positively a wizard. So you look like a magician to people because you are positively a wizard or a wizard in a good way, a good witch. My God, you suddenly look more powerful. It's like, why are you not going back? I'm not going back. I will never go back. I will not go back. Hey, you have met a positive witch, you have met a good wizard. Power, power, power, yeah #5 A person with Anakazo is able to overcome people's excuses, Amen. And number six, Anakazo is used to overcome people's lies, Amen. Now look at the lies, the excuses. I've married a wife. I cannot come. It's nonsense. You see you, you. When you are a leader, you don't accept excuses. You know that the excuses don't have enough substance. You get it. Everybody say a good leader does not accept excuses. Amen. You know that it is not necessary. It's not it. I mean, they are given an excuse, but this is not. It's not. It's not the case. No. That is all because of this, because of this, because of this. No, if you are in an army of a certain kind, you'll be executed straight away. Yeah, One day a Roman general queen to something, I forget his real name, but he, he went to a city to invade. And that city had walls. So there was a city next to it which had ships. And he wanted some of the one of the masts, some of the masts to be brought so that he used it to ram the city. Yeah. And then they went to the shipyard and they asked the guy to give them the the masts. And then the guy had given a specific one that he wanted. The guy over there gave a lot of reasons why the this particular one would be better. But the guy had asked for another one. The people told him that look, based on how this guy, the generalist, it's better you give him the one that he asked for. Guy look gave a lot of reasons why this other one would be better. So in the end, the people explained that the way the guy is, it's better that we give the original one that he asked for talk, talk, talk, explaining calculations, why it's better for rambling this. So they brought it and they took it to the man and the man said, why have you brought this one? I asked for the other one. They said that the guy at the ship, yeah, was also was also a soldier or whatever was explaining to me. And he said call him. So when the guy came, came to explain this one is the man was listening to him talking, explaining. It's like this is like this is. When he finished talking, he said execute him. And he had, he had him whipped straight naked, whipped and then executed. Yeah. Look, I mean, a good leader, he doesn't always talk. He didn't ask him any question. What is that talk talk to explain this, You know, he stripped him naked there and beat him and up and executed him. That was his hand. Yeah, I said bring this one. You have, bring another one. Yeah. So people who are leaders, they, they, they, they have a certain attitude towards excuses. I've invited you say you are going to look at the land. Can you see the land in the night? I've invited you. You say you are going to your you are plowing oxen. So a good leader. When you come with excuses, you don't. Zimbabwe. We have about over 400 members. Only 50 of you came. As soon as I came, I asked, I said why are you only 50 people here? From that way, it's only that I'm not a Roman general. Otherwise I'll strip you. I'll strip you naked. I'll strip you naked as I strip you naked and lash you on your bell bottoms. Yeah, that's true. So when you are, when you are an experienced leader, they all and still they have No, there is nothing that it doesn't work on you at all. Yeah. So there was no money. There was this, this, this, this, said cheer. Somebody on the band, I don't know how to say cheer, said cheer. It means nonsense. It's not cheer, cheer, cheer. When, when a person comes up with this, this, that, whatever, no, no, no, no. When you are experienced, the person can talk. So the, the the Roman general, he actually said, I said you should bring what, what, what is this? He did a calculation. The guy was explaining why it's better but what is the ram for ramming and the calculation the height and the longer 1 is better than this shorter one than this one. He was there explaining when they said remove his shots. He didn't. He didn't bother to do a calculation as the guy was starting remove his shots. Yeah. And they flogged him and after that they executed him and the general continued. So all this talking, talking, talking, talking Zambia, a lot of things that you don't, you don't have. The church is different from the way it should be. Yeah, different. You don't know this. You don't listen to messages, you don't watch videos, you don't have books. You don't. I mean, the whole church is different and Zambia too similar. Zimbabwe is similar. Yeah. But what I'm saying is that when you are, when you are a good leader, I say Jesus is showing us ignore excuses. Just like this, General. Ignore excuses. Yeah, just ignore it. Don't bother your head with it. Take your excuses. Amen. Take your excuses. You see the engineer who was bringing the mast to Ram, he's explained. He says he argued endlessly with the soldiers who brought the request, explaining that the smaller mast was much better suited to the task. The soldiers warned the engineer that their master was not a man to argue with. Yes, but he insisted. Yeah, he insisted that the smaller mast would be the only one that would work with the machine that he was constructing to go with it. He drew diagram after diagram and went so far as to say that he was the expert and they had no clue to what they were talking about. The soldiers knew their leader, and at last convinced the engineer that it would be better to swallow his expertise and obey. After they left, apparently they didn't. He didn't even go with them after they left. The engineer thought about it some more and he asked himself, what is the point in obeying an order that will lead to failure? That is, to provide the small, the bigger, the longer must. What is the point? So he sent the smaller must, confident that the general would see how much more effective it was and reward him justly. When the smaller mask arrived, the general asked his soldiers for an explanation. They described to him how the engineer had argued endlessly for the smaller mass that had finally promised to send a larger one. Then the general went into a rage. He could not concentrate on the siege anymore, the war that he was fighting or considered the importance of breaking the walls of the town before the town received reinforcement. All he could think about was that engineer. Who was giving reasons why he wants to do what he wants to do. So he ordered him to be brought to him immediately. Arriving a few days later, the engineer gladly explained to the general one more time the reasons for the smaller masts, or the reasons why the Zimbabweans are not at the camp, or the reason why many of the Zambians are not at the camp ride in their in their own room, in their own backyard. Why one more time reasons, reasons. And when you are experienced, you just the guy couldn't concentrate on his war anymore. He said the guy should be brought to him. I don't mind if you're not breaking. That's the guy that the engineers should report. He went on and on using the same arguments he had made with the soldiers and he said it was wise to listen to experts in these matters. See, some of you feel you are experts in Zimbabwe, you are experts in Zambia, like you know everything about your area and about why things are there and why things are a lot like this and why this and why that and why that. Over here, over here we do this. Over here we are like this here, this here that, over here, this over here that. Wow. And he said that if the attack would only be tried with the mask that he had sent, the general would not regret it. The general let him finish, then had him stripped naked before the soldiers, the engineer, and flogged and scourged, scourged with rods until he died. Yeah, it's a true story. I thought I should just read it to you. Yeah. So a good leader is not at all impressed, and I am not at all impressed. As soon as somebody I send somebody, the person come to, I can tell you before you even finish that I have no regard at all for what you are saying. I have regard for the solution, not for the excuses that you are giving. So we sent an e-mail. We called, but he didn't answer. I've called several times, You've called several times. If I take mine, I rise up and say I'm going to make contact with this person now. I will get the person. Tell me the person you are not getting through to. Tell me the person that you are not getting through to. I will show you how to get the person right now when I see people who tell me, oh, Bishop, we didn't know whether your number has changed. Bishop, we didn't know at home. Yeah. So I'm calling you this home. It's nonsense. It's just a stupid, stupid. What do you call it? You don't want to. You communicate with those you want to communicate with. Yeah. Long ago, we we we've grown out of listening to excuses. This Anna Castleman. When you say I've got 5 oxen, I've got this is a chair. Go and call better people who are more worthy of this experience. Yeah, let's get more people who are worthy of this experience. Your excuses is nonsense. But I see a phlegmatic person, when you come with this, you say, oh, sorry. I see. OK. Oh, we'll pray about it. We'll pray about it. That's why it doesn't get done. If I come to your house and there's no light in the house and you say there's no light because you you were going to buy bulbs, but the shop was closed Friday and they said, I mean, please, please, please. If you have, you are using dollars. 150 billion is used to buy three eggs. You explain that. You see over here, there's a place. I beg you, I beg you, I beg you, I beg you, I beg you, $50 billion used to buy three eggs. Please, please, please. And the same thing goes for Africa, all over Africa, the poverty of our people, the difficulties of our people, poverty, especially when you are experienced, you went and you meet a puppet. Like, that's why sometimes you see older people. They are not as compassionate towards poverty as younger people are. Yeah. So even me, I'm less compassionate towards poverty. I'm not so keen to help even our own churches. Sometimes when I could, I won't because I've helped people. If I take, if you take the Zambian church, we bought a building for the church long time ago. What have you done with it? How many people are in that building, huh? So when I see somebody else, he when he went to Congo, he was calling we need to buy this, this, this. I said, brother, we have first seen all this, this before. And now he says he's even leaving the place. So we should have, you should have come to spend $500,000 from somewhere to come and buy the next the next day you tell that you are leaving. Wow. So as you get older, you become less feeling sorry when you see someone saying it doesn't have a car. So, oh, pray about it. God will provide that. Even though I can give you 10 cars, so I won't give you any car. That's how older people become. They watch because after some time they realize that there is a reason for this situation. It's not as you think. As pitiful as you think. Yeah, one day, you know, a certain, a certain man, He, he, he, I don't know how to say the story. No, I will not say the story. That will be. That will be the safest. Yeah, yeah. I'll not say that story. Listen, when you are experienced, somebody is explaining why he's poor. Unfortunately, I did this, I got this, I did this. You don't because it has been found that the causes of intractable poverty are traced to down to with many, many times the person's own lack of desire to work by research. That when two people are put side by side and given the option of what to do, one will decide to rest and one will decide to work. That's what has been found out. So when you come to the person who has decided to rest and you ask him why it is not done, he will explain to you that no, over here you see, you can't just apply for this. But not the the real reason is that he is resting. Go and check on the you can Google causes of intractable poverty, if you like. Google that statement causes of intract like poverty, which cannot be solved. And you will find this, that when the research was done, this is what they they, they, they came to find. Yeah. Because if you look at Africa, the parts of Africa that have been ruled by people who, who operate in a different way, you see far richest, I think it's a, it's as if it's a very wild, rich place. And then when it is ruled by a certain other kind of person, you find all kinds of amazing and incredible poverty. So after some time, you realize that the reason why the person is giving the oh, because oil prices have gone up, because of the well, the price of America is no longer, you see, they will say, oh, America was giving away. I, I once met a finance minister who was giving a whole lot of reasons why the economy of Ghana is down. He said America is no more investing outside America. They've decided to invest in America. So they are pulling in their dollars to invest in their own country. That is why the dollar price is going up and the values of currencies are going up all over the world #2 The oil prices have gone whatever #3 the prices of cocoa have gone down #4 As I was sitting there, I was saying in my head, take your speech, because because all these are excuses. And a good leader, he knows that all these things that we are giving, it is nothing. And you go to other countries where things are run properly, you know, come and tell and tell you that the price of cocoa, the price of this, the price of traditional baskets and whatever that you are exporting has gone up or down. Come on, come on, come on. It's nonsense. Babo says the anarchismas go to the streets and call some people. These guys are not serious. I've invited them to a party. They said they were no conscience. Get down to the street. Don't listen to these guys. If you follow these guys, you will not achieve your vision. Yeah, that is the drive menu of us. You can't tell me that just a little fraction of you, 100 and something of you in Zambia when you have attendance of much more. Many, many more of you could have been. Only Zambia would have been here. Yeah, Zimbabwe is right that we are here. This is Zimbabwe as well. Where we are is Zimbabwe. There's only 50 of you come, half come all the way you come. Only 50 of you come and sit there like I think. I think you made some extra effort to be here. I'm not serious. I'm not serious at all. They're not serious. And it comes. It comes from the pastor. The pastor. The pastor is of Zimbabwe and the pastor is Zambia. It is your fault. A good leader knows the fault, it's where it's from. That's why he executed. That engineer said exactly the car was given reasons and calculation with diagrams explained that allow this to be it's better to use it the master of the shape to break a wall. Based on the calculation, the shorter 1 is better. Strip the remove his trousers, lash him, lash him past. That's all of you. It's your fault. That's why your people are not here. You don't even value the camp. But you. You even know that if your members come to a camp and they go back, they are likely to be different members. But it doesn't matter to you. Remove their parties, remove them. Remove their closets. You are hiding behind the camera. Oh, La La job. But it's a serious thing. Yeah, and a man in this Anacazo story has no respect for excuses and whatever. He has no regard at all. And that general who whipped that? His name was General Mucianos. Mucianos. Yeah, Mucianos principle. Don't listen to any excuses. Remove the trousers and lug the guy immediately. If we were to use that, we would not do anything for the Lord. Nothing. So you see, Benny Hin uses Benny Hin announced on television once. He said he uses $1.8 million every five days. If I'm going to use that to say, you see, when I go to heaven, I say, Lord, you see, Penny in was using $1.8 million every five days. And you see it more than two years before we can get $1.8 million in all our churches combined. Indeed, Lord, because of that, I've not been able to do much about jobs. Lord, if you had maybe an American or something, or you had even allowed certain Americans to be in my church, then Lord, I would have done so much for you. Lord, that all that you gave me was Zim dollars and some Ghanaian CDs and Qatar. Lord, I was just using Qatar and Ghana CDs and Nairobi shillings. So Lord, I didn't have much money, no much power. They have done so much evangelism, but that the the Angel would be removing them because, because, because the Lord knows better than us that what you are saying is nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Yeah. You see, you've got to be careful. And also now excuses move to lies. That's one of the things about when you are given an excuse. Many excuses are lies. Some excuses are just excuses. Like the Bible says a slagger says that there is a lion in the street. Like the reason why he doesn't want to get up is that he's giving an excuse that there is a lion outside. So we can't go out, we have to rest. Do you understand it's better to rest than to go and risk your life? So you rest? That's a pure excuse. But then excuses, when they start working you, you tend to shift into lies to cover up so many excuses slide into deception and lies. So that's why as a leader you shouldn't encourage it at all. Just stop. Don't even make an excuse. You have only 100 people in your church after how many years and how much money and time and days and that don't even talk. You tell lies. Instead of doing church growth, you are rather doing tourism, doing business, doing all sorts of things instead of focusing on the church, for the church to work and what else, what, what, what other event is there? If you read Church Growth, the book Church Growth, Church Growth and Camps, one of the sessions is to have camp meetings. Camp meetings help the church to grow. How can your church grow if we are not having certain camps and certain things? And how would the members become militarized and interested in working for God if they are not at a camp? And how many times is there a camp is the first ever time I've ever come to a camp in Zambia or a camp in Zimbabwe, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. And you're able to bring only 50 people, Lawrence, and you give an excuse. And all of you pastors, there's only 50 people of your men to over 400 people that you can bring. You come with only fifty that you are given an excuse for it. I mean, you are the most and serious group you can ever think of as far as that group is concerned. And no matter the excuses you can give, give this nothing. Honestly. It's it's it's useless and it's even deception. At the point you see that you are lying. At the point you see that you are lying. Yeah, But when I went to South Africa, they were there a lot they can't afford. The pastor has Amery forced to bring the people. Yeah, more than 1000 of them said no, people don't come there, don't step there. Students, young people, everybody are all there. Because the pastor knows that this thing, if the people attend only one camp, it will even have a certain effect on them. You are the pastor. You will not struggle. When you say A, they are already on A Plus when you say B, they already know what it means. You don't have to explain a lot of things now when you have. You don't even know what you are doing as a pastor. That's why it means nothing to you. Best opportunity to change the whole church and to turn the church into whatever has come. So even me, as I arrive here, my spirit is even discouraged to continue ministering to you because I can see that you, even the pastors themselves, are not how they should be. You cannot even lead the people to become what they are supposed to be. And it's not that I'm correcting you in front of the people, but I'm preaching the truth so that the truth will help all of us. Thus we are all, we are all we are all supposed to be serious here. There's no point in just going over around and flowery praise you and say whatever. I've never come for a camp here since I was born. I'm 51 years old. This is the first time I'm stepping here to have a camp meeting. I've never stepped here. This is if I say I will come here so that I myself will have a camp here. I've seen people say now I'm coming my and I come. You don't even bother to come. Perhaps you know if they have to communicate. You don't know podcasts, you don't know video, you don't even know who either is. You don't know anything. You are totally disconnected. It's fantastic. This is wonderful, but it's all because of the pastors. No matter the excuses that you give, it's a pastor's fault. It's like you are like pastors who are not all we have. Why not good pastors so that all the people and it's like the head of state of the country. So all the people are poor. It's the it's the leaders of the country. They are very they are poor at leading. When you go to a place where people are good at leading with the same African soil, you will see the things, whether it is farms, whether it's business, whether it's whatever. I say, Oh yeah, because they have oil. But Nigeria has oil. Nigeria has six largest projects after Saudi. Nigeria is the same category as Kuwait, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and so on. 123456 there are 6 yeah, 123456 and their oil is of the highest quality. Now their oil, it has different types. Western are more diluted, like Venezuela. Their oil is not good. The diluted. What about the Nigerian? 1 is the best oil. Yeah. Oh, yet they buy petrol with gallons on the roadside. There's no fuel. You can't buy you people with gallons in their car. The car is many of petrol. They stand on the roadside with bottles. You want bottle? Six months more boys. They stand and open your car and they pour their bottle in. Whose fault is it? Who? Who is the idiot? Who is the fool? Who is the madman doing something? Who? The people of Nigeria? No, no, there's somebody who is leading the people using the oil, misusing it, doing this until the country looks like a country of vagabonds and a country of hassles and a country of thief cause of the way the person is above everybody is fighting to. That's why you see so many Nigerians in your countries because there are no bad people. Nigerians are very good people. It is they are struggling to survive. They are fighting to live on earth. For you see Nigerians in an oil tanker crossing from Niger to Algeria. The tanker is not full of petrol, it's full of human beings who are inside and they close the top and they are in it. As you die, they open the top and they put you out. Notice somebody told me somebody who was in a tanker. So when you die, they take, they throw you out and they're why do survive because of the type of pasta or the leader that is over them. Everybody under becomes different. So the members when I come here and I speak to you look like strangers, it's because the pastor over you, he has made the people anger different. It's like the close to Nigeria say, I think the people are bad people. I think the people are thieves or as if they are naturally born to do evil. But the the one on top is how he is has made everybody anger so different. That's why all of you who are the pastors, this is all you are the ones to blame. Landy Lawrence all over them. The whole church is funny. Yeah. It's because of you, your leadership and what you are doing. It's funny. So everybody, anger looks different. True. Yeah. I'm not here to just, I mean, give you phrases and say this, this and that and that. No, no, no. I have come here with 21 people more almost the number of people from Zimbabwe, 21 people. I came from Ghana with 21 people to have a camp with you here. Yeah, we flew here. You you drive from here to here. Cannot come. Bindura, this that. We have bought 2 buildings in in Zimbabwe, said mission. I brought people to Ghana, trained the state. Come back, go. Hey. Wow. Yeah. So I'm telling you, it's nice that you see that when you're experienced. The person starts to give his own shut up. I may not say shut up, but I don't normally say shut up. But in my heart I say you are useless. I'm saying it in my heart that you are useless that I wouldn't say it. I say OK, but I also know how to say OK. Even this morning I heard something and this when I heard I just said OK and I just want to take the movie. Even this morning is when I heard something like that. I just said OK, just keep moving and I cancel my nose that a lot of the things they are saying is not true. If you have married, if I marry you and there is a dinner, is it not a good occasion for me to take you for for a dinner? Will you get even for me to take you to for a dinner? Now it is a wedding. This thing occasion we have married and there's an event. Will you not like to go wear your best dressed so that we go, you will not even get full And you tell me that you've married and that's the reason that you are kissing, that you won't come for a great dinner that has been ordered organized by a great man? Please, please, I beg you, just don't let me call Mucianos. General Mucianos, come and deal with you right now. Sit down. Our time is even past now. A man of anarchazo makes a way when there is no way. Amen. Yeah, Anarchazo man does what? Where there is no way. So when you tell me, oh, people are doing this, people are this, this, there's a oh, I can go to America, a place where they have they don't have time for anything. On Monday morning, I will get my world camp full of people in America. I get 1000 people there. I can get, you know, on Monday morning or Tuesday in the morning in America. Americans. Who? All of them. Nobody stays free of charge in America. It's not. I mean, no free dinner. There's nothing. You will see them there. Oh, either. Is it not true? Yeah. Some of them fly to the camp where there are doctors, people. This time they'll be there. They are telling me that. Oh. I might as well listen to a mental patient speaking and listen to your excuses. You go to church. Only 20 people have come to church. The rest of their in their houses. Me a pastor, I'll go to somebody's house, I'll wait for you to bath. I'm standing there, said dress how iron for you. We are going to church. That is what the church is for. It's not because the people like you, they just see you are so full of glory. Then they start to come. It's not like that. You just stand there, then they are coming. You're joking, you're joking. You travel, you visit the people. You call them a pastor. You have only 20 people in your church on Sunday morning. That's even the time you do visitation. You go, here, you go, here you go, here you break. When Bishop Eddie was in America started the church on Sunday morning, he used to take his car, Hyundai Sonata and travel picking numbers Memphis to check. His check was a his car was a buff. He is going to preach, but he is organising them in his car and bringing them to the check. It's like the check cannot be empty. They can't be left empty. You still say, oh you know the people they don't like. They don't like Camino WWDWDWDWDWDI Want to rather hear WWWD? Learn to listen to your funny excuses and your reasons why your church is empty. Wiggly Willy Willy Willy Willy Willy Willy Willy Willy than to listen to your things so a man has whatever he has married him. If I'm to give excuses, I just I'm not you see medicine in my pocket. I also not feeling well. I just lie down in my room so I'm feeling I'm not feeling so I whatever I'd rather about them so that in case what I die, I take some and I organize myself and I'll be here. I'm feeling this, I'm feeling this. You might as well here nonsense. Take your excuses and I impress at all. I might as well go to the mental hospital and see somebody say. You said there's somebody in the church children. Our people are sitting there waiting. If you will come instead of sitting there making excuses. You go to church, people don't come to church. You weekday service. You don't have a weekday service. This is because of you are all serious. Please, I'd rather want to listen to www.www.www.www.www.www.www.www.www www.impreaching. I don't care what you think about me, honestly, but I don't care at all. You you are giving excuses to the wrong person. Mucianos is the wrong person to give. That is the wrong person. Yes, Mucianos is the wrong person to give. You shouldn't. Yeah, I'll give you his full name. Give you his full name. You remember him? Yes. I knew he had a nice long name. Publius Crassus died. Musyana. Yeah, you can remember that Musyana. But he has a long name. Castles, Dives, Musicianus, I'm preaching #8 Use Anna Castle to go out of your usual circle of friends. The man went out of his usual circle. The usual people that he was dealing with, he had invited them, they wouldn't come. Now he has to move out to another type of person who is not the usual type that he would interact with instead of having that little nice fellowship. You get it. He moved out until he had what his vision was and there was nobody to give him a reason that he would listen to. He was just like Publius Casus dives Mucianus. No, your talking is just like gibberish. It's just like gibberish, nonsense. Yeah, I have come with 21 people. Yeah, 21 different people. I said let's go. And I would have come with even more people. Only there when there are too many. It's not good. More any of them. They just pay their own fare and they come. Yeah, so, but let's go. We are so happy to come. You are here just from your own country. Like give me WWWWWWWWWWWWWW your own church is empty and you feel OK? You're all right. You have learned so many things that my church will source our party. That's why God is saying to us, am I waiting in vain for you to love God? That the love for God is what is not even there? May God have mercy on our lives in Jesus name. Stand to your feet. Yeah, but you have to be careful. Sometimes you say it's your last time, but maybe you may not get that chance again. Yeah, let us pray for a moment. Father, thank you for the blessing of your Holy Word. Guide us. Lead us. Bring us in your perfect plan. Deliver us from excuses. Deliver us from talking when we shouldn't talk. Deliver us from coming up with things as reasons. My God, mando santele mede be chandala ma mandala Baba, we give you thanks, we give you praise, we give you glory, we give you honor. We thank you for delivering us from evil. Have mercy on the church Lord. Have mercy on the church. Lord, we are grateful for your great blessing. We are grateful for your great blessing in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. And everyone said Amen. Like you may be seated.