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07. Wounds and Forgiveness

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
March 22, 2026 55m 16s

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GTWC Title - The Road To Calvary Collection - 95 Preached in Accra, Ghana. Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.

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Welcome to track #7 of the road to Calvary. The first thing. There are many things you see on the road. One of the first things you see is Simon of Sirene. Another thing you will you will see is a deeper knowledge of the word. Without it, you can't even walk upon this road. Now the next thing that you are going to see on the Calvary Rd. S are wounds, wounds and forgiveness. Wounds and forgiveness. And in Matthew 23 verse 34 Jesus said Father forgive them for they know not what they do Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Amen. Father forgive, forgive Luke sorry Luke 23 it says. And there were also two other malefactors verse 32 LED with him to be put to death. And when they were come to the place in verse 33 which is called Calvary is another Calvary Rd. where they crucified him and the malefactors one on the right hand and the other on the left. Then said Jesus father forgive everybody say forgive, forgive them for they know not what they do Amen. Now one of the highest things that we need to learn in the ministry is forgiveness, you see, and that is something that if you are walking on the Calvary Rd., look, some of the people will be sent, not that

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Welcome to track #7 of the road to Calvary. The first thing. There are many things you see on the road. One of the first things you see is Simon of Sirene. Another thing you will you will see is a deeper knowledge of the word. Without it, you can't even walk upon this road. Now the next thing that you are going to see on the Calvary Rd. S are wounds, wounds and forgiveness. Wounds and forgiveness. And in Matthew 23 verse 34 Jesus said Father forgive them for they know not what they do Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Amen. Father forgive, forgive Luke sorry Luke 23 it says. And there were also two other malefactors verse 32 LED with him to be put to death. And when they were come to the place in verse 33 which is called Calvary is another Calvary Rd. where they crucified him and the malefactors one on the right hand and the other on the left. Then said Jesus father forgive everybody say forgive, forgive them for they know not what they do Amen. Now one of the highest things that we need to learn in the ministry is forgiveness, you see, and that is something that if you are walking on the Calvary Rd., look, some of the people will be sent, not that God is sending them, but God has allowed them to come into your life to offend you because Jesus said offenses must needs come it it's sort of necessary that there should be things that are offensive in a church or in the ministry. Are you listening to me? So if you look at Matthew 18, you see that there. Let's read it. Matthew 18, verse 5. Whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. Matthew 18, verse 6. Bahuso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in Me. It were better for him that a millstone were hung above his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offenses, For it must needs be that offenses come. But woe to that man by whom the offense cometh. Wherefore if thy handle thy foot offend thee, cut them off and cast them from thee. For it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. One of the things in the ministry that you need to have is forgiveness. Amen. This is not a message for church members. I am speaking to you. I am assuming that most of you here are pastors or intending to be ministers. You get it and you need to forgive. The more you walk on this road, you are going to be offended and you need to have your forgiveness medication available to forgive people all the time. Amen, number one, now to just go through some of the things that you are going to have to forgive. You are going to have to forgive people above you who are in authority over your life, all right? People who are in authority over your life. Once somebody has authority over your life, you find out that the person may do something that will offend you or disturb you. You get it now. Most of us are bad fathers. Do you know that even as husbands, we are usually not good husbands. And then #2 we are usually not good fathers. Most fathers are not good fathers. That's why Jesus said, call no man father, because no one is a good father, a real father. And Jesus said last Sunday, I preached about it. Jesus said, don't call anybody father. That's why we sometimes say daddy. Daddy means attempted father. Oh Papa, it means attempted father. They are all attempts to be a father, but everybody falls. So that is why we all need a few fathers. Yes, we need fathers in the ministry. So you will see that forgiveness will come in place because somebody above you will hurt you in the ministry. Somebody above you will do that. Maybe the person will talk to you in a way you did not expect. Maybe the person will do something that you don't understand. Maybe the person will not do something that you thought you would do. But. Expect it. Do you see? And when it comes, you clear it out of your spirit. 1 Pastor gave me some advice which I have taken all these years. He said always try to have a sweet spirit. Sweet spirit that means have a clean heart. Look, many of us here cannot move forward in the ministry and in our lives because our spirits are not clean. You see, most charismatic churches are born out of rebellion and that is why they don't prosper. What you must realize is that God does not bless things He does not bless. You understand God does not bless things that He does not bless. God has certain things that he blesses. And most of us, our churches were born out of rebellion. We don't understand our heads and our leaders and we and maybe our heads and our leaders and pathers and authority figures. We are not good leaders. So we broke. Out. Do you see? And we broke out. Most of us were offended by something you understand and have never gotten over the offenses that we were offended with. And that thing forms a stumbling block for you. You see, one of the things that you also see in this carrier, maybe I should just bring this one because it also comes up all the time, is humility. Humility is the next thing you see on the on the Cavern Rd. because you see Jesus humbling himself as if he was nobody. So you see, humility is something that you have to do. You lower yourself, you humble yourself. Now as you walk along this road of ministry, you will have to forgive people above you. Amen. Then you have to forgive people who are your colleagues or your equals, people you thought were your maids or people you thought this person would do this, this person would do that. And then you will have to forgive the people below you, your church members. Look, when you minister to people and they are ungrateful, you understand you can easily be turned off the people that you minister to, but you don't have to be hurt, Amen. And you have to decide not to be offended by the ministry that year because look, have you not seen that as you see, as people grow older, they become so bitter. They are not happy, they are not full of joy anymore. The sweetness is gone, the happiness is gone. It's like the life is bitter. So there's a certain joy and happiness and peace that is no more there in their lives. But you have to decide to flow and to forgive the people that come against your life in the ministry. And most of us, we need to either forgive somebody or ask for forgiveness. I'm telling you, either you have to ask for forgiveness or forgive somebody. Most of us. And that is the reason why most of us don't do well because Jesus said if whatever sin you do, I will forgive, but if you do not forgive, I will not forgive you. I have not seen anything stronger than that. Let's look at it in Mark 11/25 and I'm, I'm talking to pastors. It says in verse 25, when you stand praying, forgive. Forgive if you have ought against any, that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. You have to forgive. I said you have to forgive. Amen. As a pastor, many times I've been offended by people that are so-called above. Like I was saying when I started at my church, people above me, nobody helped me. You see, I remember when it was even time for my wedding, time for my wedding. Nobody. You know when you have a wedding, they call and they say pastors or if you work somewhere, they say all SSB staff, all those who are Kalibu Ward, medical Ward too, all those here or wherever you work. So when it was my wedding, the first time they say all pastors. Nobody came because there was no pastor there. No one in town would come to my wedding. Oh, yeah, the bigger. And I knew them and invited them. And nobody came to my wedding. I was nothing. I tell you. I was nobody. But I've forgiven them. Amen. People that were working under me, people that have worked under me, that I have been close to friends with, turn against me, fight against me, create stories and impressions. You see, when somebody is starting, like the fellow who is giving, creating an impression about Bishop Oye Depot as though he's a criminal, although he's a bad person, as though he's doing well. It's clever, but it doesn't fool some of us. Do you understand? And you find that jealous Pastors are happy about it. See the If you are happy about it, it reveals a certain fallen state within your your heart and your ministry. You are not a correct pastor. You are not a correct pastor at all. If you are happy about it and you support that you don't understand ministry and I don't blame you because maybe of the level at which you are at, I don't blame you for that. Maybe if I was in your shoes, I would, I would be also very happy you see this and that. No, you are jealous. You are jealousy of a big church, Me, my headquarters, that church is a branch. Their branch is bigger than my headquarters where I am. That's God. That it's God who keeps it. Nobody can. Nobody can take it. That it's what God has given you and what he hasn't given you, he hasn't given you. Don't be jealous, be happy. Be happy for somebody's blessing. When you see something bad is happy, you don't get up and say aha, you see this and that and that this and that. Oh, shame, you have revealed your jealousies within yourself. But if you haven't experienced God, I've seen this all this before. I've had pastors who try to make stories for me is this is that there's no scene. I've never that have not been said. I've committed before redescribe everything, reframe, redescribe represent so that you, you let the person look funny and, and everybody, you, you painting him black. They are painting a man of God black. You become a painter and they are painting. And you see, when you have somebody like this, you have worked, you have appointed him, you have ordained him, you have done whatever you understand and you are. And now he's now turning around to pour whatever on you. You know, you, you are in a church and you, if you are leaving the church, live, but instead of living, you turn around and you urinate inside the water that everybody drinks from and you urinate and they say, and then you go away. Now any time somebody comes to the church, the person smells the urine in the water and say, ah, Are you sure that it's a good water in this church? Is, is this a characteristic? Is it when you have such a person? It's not that it's not easy to forgive them. I remember where I went to it, at one of my branches, I had an assistant pastor. He was in charge of the branch. And then he came around. Various things happened and we sucked. I mean, he, he left or he left the church. Then he went back to the church and started going from house to house, telling the people that I am a thief. So up till today in that city, the people see me as a thief. Yeah, I don't enjoy going there. I don't enjoy. It's my church. I don't enjoy going there. I don't enjoy preaching there. I don't like visiting there. I I almost lost interest in the place because I have somebody who urinate on my face and I appointed him as a pastor. I laid hands on him and I introduced him and said this from today is pastor so and so and why did he turn around to do pro urinated on me like that? Thank you with urine, if you have the ministry and you are going to still be happy and still have the blessings of God. All these people are prophesied. Jesus, look at us. They nailed. Him with thieves associated him with thieves. So if you are being associated with thieves, why are you angry? It's the same role that your your Jesus walked upon. It's the same you are not greater than your Jesus. If I'm associated with a thief because the the place that he said father forgive them was when they built him with the thieves. That is what he said. That is when he said forgive them. I mean all the bitty, he didn't say forgive them, but when they built him with the thieves he said forgive them. It's like, it's like there are three of you, 3 of you, 3 same thieves, 3 you are. All the same 123 What did you do on the life? What did you do? You stole one. You stole this. OK, what did you do? OK, so they are all the same. Forgive them, forgive them, forgive them, the people above you. When I was studying my church, a pastor, he said to me, you know, he, he called my assistant, called my assistant and told my assistant, I've started a small church. Can you imagine if you started your church and after at this camp meeting, I come to your main assistant with whom you have been working struggling to get your 18 members that come to church and I call him and I tell him that listen, God spoke to me in the night and I've said that you are not supposed to be at that church that you are and that there's a certain scripture, a little foxes Paul. They find these certain things are spoiling your ministries. So you need to you may look like a little thing about. Where you are this? Is the little foxes the I think the message is that if little things can spoil your ministry, so this, it may seem like a small thing that you are in this ministry or whatever, but it will spoil your ministry. We are not supposed to be there. And that's what happened to me and took my assistant from me in my church. I was a student. If I show you my picture, you feel very sorry for me. You say very. I was very thin, very lame and very zealous with nobody to help me. I was trying to start a church and then they called my assistant to the house and they talked to him. The next time I saw this assistant was taken to this big church, charismatic church. When he left my church straight there. This is when I see all these people. I just said you meant it for whatever, but God turned it out for good. God has worked it out for good. It's good that it happened because a guy is good that he went. Amen. Are you listening to me? Yeah. Those who call me Jim Jones, you see, that's what gives me authority today. What have you been through? I said. What have you been through? Yeah. What I have been through is what gives me my authority to minister. So all the things that were. Done to me. Are actually giving me more authority in the ministry. What have you been through? What have you survived? The guy who called me Jim Jones, when I see the other day I saw him, one of the guys who called me Jim Jones, I went to his office. The professor. Stood up. Welcome. Sit down here. Sit down. I sat down. Look at you, Jones. What did you just calling me to sit down? He gave me a seat. Come here. Then they said, come. Then he said, so let's pray God bless you. Oh, you are doing a great work. You are doing a great work and I was doing a great work. Now you see. And he was up at like the 4th floor when I finished discussing what I came to discuss with him. I said I'm going, Sir. Oh, let me see you off. He came with me all the way down the stairs, one floor, second floor, third floor to the ground. Then he came with me to my car and I was they are going to see Jim Jones. Go to the. Car right up to my door and he waited and got into the car and I was fucking. This man, will he know I'm feeling shy? I sparked my car and then he stood. Then you went. Back quiet here, professor, say hey, forgive them. You must have a sweet speak, he said Bible says it must come. It has to come. If you are working on this covering rule. It's part of Christianity. You can. It's like toilet gas. Come on your shirt. You just wash it and it goes off. Don't keep it on you. It makes you smell in the spirit. There are many people that are smelling in the spirit. They are wounds. They haven't healed them. The wounds must be healed. Do you see some of the young people? They are happy. They are smiling because they haven't been hurt. Many young people, they are nice, smiling, cheerful, happy. They haven't been hurt. That's why they are smiling and cheerful and happy. But as you. Grow older in life, you begin to experience certain seniors and certain things. The smiles get fewer, the straight face when they are saying they will look at you. But you have to be able to maintain the sweet spirit so that it will be as though you've never been hurt before. You need to forgive. You need to forgive, you need to release the death and the wounds must be healed of your past and of what has been done against you by somebody above you or somebody at whatever level you need to be cured. Otherwise you will never be a good minister. Just when they put him with the teeth, forgive them. Forgive. Them, give them. And sometimes you see pastors, we cannot forgive. One day I invited somebody to preach in my church. He didn't come and I had to preach myself and the whole thing became a whole confusion. I had to discuss with him what this and the point. I said OK, come again. But at the point I realized that this person has so much hurt in him about this and that. And at the point I said, we are pastors. We are supposed to be preaching forgiveness and we preach about it, but we ourselves, we cannot forgive. It's so difficult, you know? And I said I was in my church. I've invited you. To come and preach the. Whole church is for waiting you. They didn't come for various reasons. So after I've sorted the thing out, you release your heart and just flow. I say come back. We've sorted out. I'm sorry for what I've done. You too. You are sorry for what you've done. But we didn't understand ourselves. So come and flow that bound alone for years. And you realize that we are ministers and you see these are the things that are keeping us down. You'll be surprised. Forgive them. Forgive. Forgive the person who did. Why? Why is it that you can see best with pastors, our enemies, that we are just like NDC and MPP? When you saw MPP, you know their enemies, NDC. And when you see NDC, you know their enemies, MPP. How? Can it be that you know a church? When I know Angel Delight church I know it's anti demons. Church is the enemy of Angel Delight church. How come one day I had a pastor friend and I was preaching about love and all, and then the Lord said to me, see the thing, the word, you have to apply it to yourself. And the Lord said to me, you are all saying forgive. So he said to me, forgive. I said no, I've forgiven. And then the Lord said to me, Lord forgiven. Everybody says he has forgiven, so you show that you're forgiven. So I went to see the brother. I said, brother, come to see you because so many things have happened and we are Christians. I told him we are Christians, let us forgive ourselves. And I said to me, I don't know what I've done wrong against you, but I'm sure you feel that I've done wrong and you too. You feel that I have wronged you. So I've wronged you. You've wronged me. We are Christians, let us put it all aside. It's been five years since this trouble began so that we can just walk on. You know what he told me? He drove me out of his house and he said, next time you are coming, come with more sense. That is what he told me. This is a Christian pastor. I should come with more sense. What is more sense than forgiveness? I mean, those were his words. His words were sense more come next time. It's like the next time I'm coming is to come with more sense. This is a man of God and look at our Jesus Father, forgive them. And then you see another man say I will. Kill him. I'll kill them. A pastor with a big church, I'll kill. I'll kill him. He's talking. He's angry. I'll kill them. I'll kill him. You will see. He doesn't know me. I'll kill him. Look, these things are not going to get us anywhere. And many of us, we will fight. We'll fight over offerings, fight over churches, fight over anything. The Christian character is not there. Fight over salary, fight over this, fight over that. That is why God is not with us. He says that if you do not for neither will your father go. He said when you stand praying, forgive, forgive, forgive. You have to forgive your members. Members are ungrateful. Recently it was my birthday. I preached in my chair, thousands of people in my big chair that I preached to, about 5 people gave me a birthday card. Not more than 10 in my big church that I missed. Like your birthday pasta. Happy birthday. Here is a birthday card. Not even a present. A card in my big church, Thousands of people. No, no, I don't need AI, don't need anything. I don't. Sometimes people give me presents. I give it back to myself. Please, it's OK. I God bless you. I've received it. I don't need it, no. You have to forgive them. There's nothing. That's how it is. That's how ministry is. That's how life is. You pour out and pour out and pour out and pour out. They'll be looking at you. They don't even appreciate it. One day, a pastor. His congregation gave him an offer. He sent it back to the church. He was so. Hurt. And if you don't take anything, you will leave them. You will leave the ministry. You walk away from me. You say these people, what I have been through for them. No, you haven't been through anything for them. You've been through for God. You are not doing it for anybody. You are doing it for the Lord. And the Lord himself will reward you. It's for the Lord. Take up your cross and follow Him. We have to clean and I feel that I am trying to clean a toilet. Clean. Clean a toilet, they say. Do you know what a toilet is? The toilet is usually white. There's a reason why they make it white so that you can see the black spots and the brown patches. Oh, you don't understand the message still. And so that you can clean it and rub it away, we need to rub these hats out of our hearts, heads of pastors, heads of ministers, Clean it so that there can be love and there can be God can start to listen to your prayers in your church and in your ministry. Amen. Forgive. Everybody who has done something bad, when David was going, he was running. Absalom was chasing somebody who was insulted. He said leave him. Maybe God has sent him. To insult me. Leave him. Yeah, maybe the other day I had somebody. I I kept him in my house for more than a year, fed him, look after him. There he was standing somewhere saying something. I said maybe God has sent him. Yeah, maybe it doesn't matter. Doesn't mean I will not take somebody into my mouth. I will take again. I will take. Again, not everybody is ungrateful. It will stop my ministry. It will change me from being happy and maintain me from being sweet in the in the spirit. I won't stop. I won't stop having assistant associates. I won't stop having friends. I won't stop trusting people. I won't stop giving. I won't. No, no, no, no, no. The devil is trying to tell me, twist my spirit, change my heart. Change my heart and change me into something and I won't do this again. I won't do this again. This person. I didn't look at what you have done. Look at what? No, no, no, I won't change. I won't stop. I'll do it again and again and again and again. And whatever you do or you don't do ask for me. I'll just take it out. Whatever it is, it is the Lord who is working and it is the Lord who will reward me. Oh, yes, it is God. Clean your heart. Somebody has cheated you, somebody has taken your money. Forgive. I tell you, learn to forgive. Forgive many of us. You see one of the things you see one day the Lord told me somebody was owing me. The Lord said to me, release, don't go for the money. Not that you don't go. Tell the person that I've forgiven you the money. That's also part of forgiveness. Some of us, you see, we, we, it's like you will pay the last really before I, I, I, I, I, I, I leave you. If you don't pay, you will never. You never we are so mean and and it's also part of forgiveness. You will also need somebody not to charge you one day, not to collect his money. Believe God sometimes a seat, but sometimes we are we are so I mean, you don't even need it and you can see that the person is struggling to bring the thing. Just call the person, say brother, you see that money that I owe you, that you owe me, you know? The law I just fill in my heart. I should give it. You should say God bless it, God bless you, God bless you. It's a blessing why everything you are, you are making the personal account for the last detail you. You will pay the last you will the last dollar, the last peso. That is why you. 2 The The thing is never to be left, you will. Pay considering thyself. Let thou also be tempted. There is no forgiveness with us. That is why we are not to be feared. It's time for us to forgive. Forgive your past boyfriends because you see somebody who has married long time. There's a past boyfriend or past girlfriend. I'm coming home now. I'm about to call your number right now. Are you there? Do you? You don't forgive your past boyfriend, that's why you can't marry and that's why even your current marriage cannot work and that's why there's no happiness in your life. You will never forget, you will never forgive, you will never release. That's Christian character of a minister. The other day somebody brought me a newspaper, some Nigerian pastors, this one will say this about this one, this other one will say these are headlines. He said this pastor so and so says this one is a this then pastor soon still replies and says this one is a that you know and these are big men of God. With big touches, huh? Are you from Nigeria? Have you seen that paper before? Yeah. Is anybody from Nigeria here? What I'm saying, is it true? Yeah. Look, this is not a Christian ministry, I'm sorry to say. The big church, you see, don't let it deceive you. Don't let it deceive you at all. God is not going to judge you by how big your church is. God is going to judge you by how faithful you are. Well done, good and faithful servant. And he's a well done pastor of a mega church. Well done faithful, well done faithful now well done Mega faithful. Faithful is different from mega forgive your wife some husbands here. Your husband, your wife is some we, but God knows that she's some we and God sent her to you to prepare you, to ginger you, to humble you, to humble you. Part of her role is to bring humility to your life. It's a good message. It's very good for you. Many people think that your your husband or your wife is simply to give you food money. No, no. Part of it is humility, tribulation, to bring you down, to bring our Christian character in you. That's why Jesus didn't marry. The highest form of wisdom is not to marry. The highest form of wisdom is not to marry. No, Jesus didn't mind, my Saviour didn't mind, and he knew what he was doing. They have married any of them, he says, and he was a young man, tempted in all points, like as I said, no, this thing, no, I shan't go into it. Nah, not in this life. There is a need for you to forgive husbands and wives. No happiness, no flow, no peace fighting. As if what I'm saying is not true. As if what I'm saying is thought. You are looking at me as if you don't understand what I'm talking about. You know, we, we are very good at pretending I'm pushing a good message. No happiness and bitter, no laughter, no laughter. You want your your spouse to die. You want your husband to die. You want your wife to die one day. I was standing with the same pastor, he said. He said this year something will happen one day. I was standing with another first time, he said. He said the prayer warriors have been praying for her to die all these years. The prayer warriors have been praying for her to die, but she has not died. Because certain words of prophecy have come and you have hatred. And I'll tell you, you see, we are we human beings. We are the we are so depraved. You see, there's no there's no human, there's no creation of God that has tend. You see like this tree, let's say this tree, the branches start to grow towards us. You see the tree and it starts to come as we are talking, it starts to come towards us now and it comes through the this thing starts to come and the leaves come and they start to hold people and start to eat. It's like that's not where the tree was supposed. Tree is supposed to stand there nicely now that you look at it sensor nicely, but now it has changed. It moves, it attacks. The snow branches go round your neck and tie your neck, and the leaves cover your eyes, go inside your mouth to choke your eyes, and it moves like that. The creation has changed. It's become a frightening, terrifying thing. That is what is happening with God's creation. Men are having sex with men. Instead of using your anus for just feces, it's now used for intercourse. We've changed the just changed the youth. Now instead of living with each other, we kill each other. Americans go to Iraq. Yesterday they killed 100 people in Iraq in just one blow. They just kill. We kill. There's no lion or tiger that goes to kill other tigers. Like you see 10 lions. We are going to kill more lions. Any lions we can see, they are going to kill them. There's nothing like that. If you see a lion killing, it's killing a deer to eat it but not going to kill others. It's only human beings who get up to kill other human beings, a lot of other human beings at the same time and event weapons to kill others. We are a deranged and depraved and so when 2. Such deranged, depraved, corrupted, fallen beings come together now. It's not easy. The Bible says that days that shall marry shall have trouble in the flesh. First Corinthians Chapter 7 and the word trouble is the word eclipses, which means tribulations and anguish, eclipses only that many. Pastors will not say it. They will take pictures with the Word. I was standing with one pastor and he said, he said to me all those things are television shows. They are all acting. Student taking pictures. It's all acting. There's nothing real about it, he said. He said it's all television performance. He told me Television performance 10 to 1st Corinthians Chapter 7. Let me show you there's bad. And if thou marry, thou has not sinned, and if a virgin marry, she hath not sin. Nevertheless, are you in First Corinthians 7, verse 28 is this nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh. But I spare you trouble is ellipsis. It means anguish. So one of the things you have to learn in your marriage, in your ministry, forgive her, forgive him. It doesn't matter. God sent him to discipline you, mercy to make you cry, mercy to humble you. Women, those of us here who are ladies. I was reading the final quest with Joanna's book. And in the final quest, he went to the heaven where the Thrones were, and he said there were different groups, pastors, this, that different groups. And he said that the largest group of people on the Thrones were not evangelists, were not missionaries were there, but it was not missionaries. The largest group were women. Women are going to have the largest place. I believe so because women have be forced to be humble. And you see it is humility that makes you great in God's side, not the other way round. So going down makes you great in God's side. So you are forced to be down. But see, anything that forces you down, thank God for it because it's actually forcing you up. Harmony are glad for something that's forcing you down. And I thank God for the ministry because it forces us down. Ministry makes us into nothing. It forces us down, but God is forcing you up, persevering. God is forcing you up. I said he's forcing you up. He's using your wife to force you down because we see when you go and you prophecy and you have a dream, a vision, you see somebody, the person is dead and it's like, oh, the person is alive and you see this is three. You see a son, 3 then the person is going to die in three days, exactly 3 days, the person dies. It's like you have very power. Then you come to the house, then your wife will just bring you down, discipline you in the house. You get it. It is to keep you. Humble. If she were not there, you can easily fall away. They are not a prophet at home. She would reorganize you into an ordinary person in the house. That is a good message, Yeah. That's why God gave head to you. And no matter who you marry you because you are marrying a woman and a woman will come with certain things. It's to bring you down. It comes with it under the mighty hand. And Bible say humble yourself under the mighty hand of God. That means that when the hand is you don't be hitting the hand, just flow. Flow under the mighty hand and the hand is flow. Don't travel with it, Flow under the hand. It's a good message and I know you understand what I'm talking about. I do. Instead of saying that this year something will happen this year, she's going to die this year so I can be free, brother, humble yourself under the mighty hand and just know that this person that has been brought has been brought to prepare you so that you will not feel too good. Like that's what happened to John Wesley. I tell John Wesley, apart from the early founding fathers, I don't know of any greater founder than John Wesley. I don't know of anybody and yet there's no one who had a worse marriage than John Wesley just after he married on Friday. On Monday, he left for his preaching. Then he told his wife all the letters that can be answering Denver. I want you to help me in the ministry so you'll be answering the letter to all the people that I can. Then setting people. I think 1 was called Molia, one was another one, the writing letters. God bless you. You know, sometimes people can write letters. You know, it's like almost like if it's a lab letter. So, well, I don't know what type of letter. We wrote the letters. And then she said, no, no, no. This person and this person, what type of letters are these? Who are these? People so she took objection to the letter, said this, this, this, that. So he tried to talk to her and said no, not if he was trying to keep something. He would not have asked her to read the letter. Yeah. Why Secret, Whatever. Whether I want you to help me to respond to the letters or anything. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. She didn't accept it at all. Hey. It was not easy for the man. For for years they struggled, in fact. The woman didn't agree. In the end, she left. Then somebody asked John Westley, will you go for your wife? He said I didn't send her away and I'm not going to get there. I didn't send her away. She was separated for him for more than 20 years. When she died, he was not even told she was buried. He was told that she was dead after she was buried. And he was just carried on in his. Me limping with this kind of marriage, it's like a woman that you are separated and. Married people were involved, trying to stabilize the marriage, the founder. Hey, Mercy, trying to stabilize at the end. I was reading the book that said that the kindest assessment that can be given for this woman was that she was mentally abnormal. I don't think she was that a lot of women are mentally abnormal. I don't like my message, but you see, maybe without it. Because as you can see, so as he was going through his ministry, his limpy, limpy Paul said I was given a tongue in my flesh lest I should be exalted. I prayed about that. I said no, no, it's good for you. So instead of kissing, I would kill them. Thank God for them. I thank God for all the Orangus in my life. If you have not had Orangus, I couldn't write my book. Loyalty. And this Loyalty, I have to experience it, yeah, before I can write a bestseller. I have to suffer, I have to give, I have to suffer before I can. Experience it, It's good for me. I thank God for all my troubles. It's been good for me, all the difficulties. I thank Him in the midst of the things that he had answered, humiliated me, humbled me, Thank Him in all of them for His glory. It has me when I look at the effect, it's hard on me. I just say, though it is, it is for the glory of God. It's a good thing. It's been good. Oh yeah, Thank God for the humility. And you see, you will never experience the blessing that God was trying to give you unless you learn how to forgive. Rather, what will happen is you become more bitter. Bitter botele, bitter widow. Are you there? Most people do not know and do not believe that ministry depends on hidden things. You see Jesus said go into your closet and pray and pray in secrets and the Lord reward you openly. What people don't know is that it is what is happening in the secret places that is affecting what is happening outside. What I am talking about now about forgiveness and having a sweetheart and a sweet spirit is probably I would say one of the most important secrets of all time for ministry is to have a heart that is free of offense. And Paul prayed for the Philippians. I prayed that you will have that you will be sincere and without offense till the day of Christ. Look with me. Let me show you in Philippians chapter 1. It's an it's an important verb, but you see it doesn't look powerful. I myself, I was reading Rejoiner's book. He said that the most powerful weapon the Lord told him is love, and he was wondering, how is this? I'm wondering, how is this love so powerful? Philippians one verse 10, it says that you may approve things that are excellent. Have you found it that you may be sincere and without? What offends till the day of Christ? Not just for now, but till the day of Christ? Hallelujah, till the day of Christ. God is trying to break us, and yet He wants us to not be broken, not be bitter, but be without offense. Till the day of Jesus Christ. I will not be smiling, I will not be happy in the ministry if I was to think about all the things, but rather I look around and I see that God has given me many good people. God has his rewards in heaven. God has blessed and God will bless. Lift your hand and ask the Lord for His blessing right now. From the heart, from your heart, from the heart, from the heart.