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04. Types Of Shepherding Relationships 1

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
December 8, 2024 1h 1m

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Camp Title - The Power of a Cross. Machaneh Collection - 53. Preached in 2008, UK (Bournemouth). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.

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Welcome to track number four of the Powers of a Cross. Types of shepherding relationships. Number one is master servant. Master servant type of relationship is quite formal, isn't it? Now, as you develop your shepherding skills, you have to know how to relate with the sheep because there are different kinds of relationship between a male and a female and a A male and a female can relate as a boyfriend and a girlfriend. They can relate as a husband and a wife, or I should say they can relate as a young husband and a young wife. They can relate as an old husband and an old wife. They can relate as friends. You get it, friends, friendship in it. They can relate as father and daughter. They can relate us old boyfriends and girlfriends old. When I was when I was going to Singapore, I sat by a lady. She said she visited her old boyfriend and she said. She said she was trying to explain to me that she was honest, she was an honest person, and that she had even called her husband to tell her that she was going to visit her old boyfriend. So I asked her. I asked her I'm. Just trying to explain the. Different kinds of relationship between male and

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Welcome to track number four of the Powers of a Cross. Types of shepherding relationships. Number one is master servant. Master servant type of relationship is quite formal, isn't it? Now, as you develop your shepherding skills, you have to know how to relate with the sheep because there are different kinds of relationship between a male and a female and a A male and a female can relate as a boyfriend and a girlfriend. They can relate as a husband and a wife, or I should say they can relate as a young husband and a young wife. They can relate as an old husband and an old wife. They can relate as friends. You get it, friends, friendship in it. They can relate as father and daughter. They can relate us old boyfriends and girlfriends old. When I was when I was going to Singapore, I sat by a lady. She said she visited her old boyfriend and she said. She said she was trying to explain to me that she was honest, she was an honest person, and that she had even called her husband to tell her that she was going to visit her old boyfriend. So I asked her. I asked her I'm. Just trying to explain the. Different kinds of relationship between male and F and one is old boyfriend and old girlfriend. So I said, what is what is the difference between your your your relationship with your husband and then your old boyfriend? And she said, Oh, my old boyfriend, I said, was my first love. I said your first love. And I told her. I'm just about to preach at a camp. My first lab. So I showed her my first lab. I said oh, I'm happy to meet you because I'm just about to have a camp on my first lab. So give me some symptoms. Of the first lab. A very. Friendly white lady, British girl. She was very talking. She disturbed me the whole. And couldn't I tell you? I've never. Anyway, are you there? OK, So anyway, my first love. How many want to know about my first love? Yeah. First love is different from your second love or last love. All right, So you can relate with your sheep? How do you relate with them? You get it. How many are shepherds or pastors? Raise your hand. Pastors or shepherds? Very good. So how do you relate with your shepherds? Your, your, your, your sheep. You can relate one of the ways. It's like a master and a servant, Amen. A master and a servant. This is the commonest African relationship that we have made in Africa, big manism. And there is a place for being a big man. There is a there is a place for being a big man because you need sometimes to identify yourself as who I am. I'm the leader, I am the one. So there is a place for that. There is a place because people would also run over you. If you allow them, they'll walk over you. They'll put you down. You know, one day I answered my sense of missionaries. And unfortunately or fortunately, they had been roommates before when they were in school. And so they had a lot of problems whenever the the leader decided to do something. The assistant who used to be his roommate and they're all in the same year in university, would challenge him and he challenged him and challenged him and challenged him until he could not flow anymore. So he called me or he told me when he was around he was telling me of all these difficulties. He said and I said suck him, suck your roommate, show him. That you are the leader. Cast him out of the mission. Yeah, because you you can't lead. When you are constantly being equalized or you don't understand my message, yeah, leader is someone who is in charge. You get it. So you got to show the strength at times. And show that you are. The leader, whether you are roommates or not, I am the master in this relationship. What do you think? Is it powerful? Yeah. So all of you are going to be mission because a lot of you are going to be dispersed. There is a spiritual diaspora, and you are. Going to be located. In the diaspora somewhere, but you will be grateful. Because I I have rarely. Sent. Somebody who has not been grateful. The other day one. Of the missionaries that I sent somewhere was having a problem there and I said, listen, you know, just come back to Ghana, back to where you you came from. And then the problem continued to go where? So I called, I said return. In fact, I happened to see his wife. I said return. His wife started begging. He said if you ask my husband to come back, you will kill him. It will kill us. It will kill him. Please, I beg. Then I said. Stop. Complaining. Stop complaining. Yes, Bishop. And that's the end of the complaints. Yeah, because if you. If you if it's a problem, a difficulty, they say hey. Just come, come, come, come because it's far. We can't send you when you are there. Always trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. At least be near and cause the trouble than far. It's. Difficult to control things. How much more when it's far away and it's a problem and? Also, the church has. No intention of sending anybody to disaster or to destroy your life. And when you came to London and you were suffering, you didn't have anybody to blame. You didn't say that. Look at where I'm. Staying look at this you just endured. And you are. You are still enduring quietly. Oh, you see me, you smile, you are happy. Why is it that when we send you then now your face has changed? OK, anyway, so you need to know the master servant relationship is the African style and that is even the name in in tree for a leader sends the wrong message in pain Z is that not how how to say in pain Z It's like pain is like the the big man and Z is it? So eating the big man ship. Is a leader. You get it. Even the name the Ashanti. Name for a leader in Peindi is a very it. Sends the wrong message. To the leaders and that is why. The Chiefs most. Of the Chiefs do not help the people much, they just. Eat. The big manship, they wear these sandals, the Ahinima stand out with their cloth and they sit there. They have a way of putting their legs down and they sit there and then they chop the and they eat the bigmanship. So there is no need. Are you listening to me? There is no need to just concern yourself with being big when you are nothing. You don't have to be a Bishop of 70 people. You get it. There are bishops of 70 people. Different, different things, Reverend. We want to be ordained. We're a collar. Do this, do that, different things. But you are actually nothing. There's no need. One of the things I'm. Always praying for is humility. So. Easily you can think of yourself as something. And God just blows. On you like that if he blows on your liver it will just get spoiled. And that's the end of you. Blows on your kidney finish. Blows on your breast. Finish. If he writes July, July, that that's the end. You are not crossing July. You can't cross it. So we, we, we, we, we are no greater than the cows and the goats, which are. Being slaughtered day after day in a certain sense. So we really need humility. One of the things that destroys us whenever God lifts us up a little is pride. I'm happy. To see that all these. Americans come here because there's a lot of pride. In America, there's less. Pride here because you. You. Don't prosper so much. But where? Wherever there's it's a message, yeah. I mean. That's the fact. I was recently with a millionaire, multi millionaire, you know, I was in his house looking at all his millions and all that. And I told him, look, you are a rich man and the Bible says that it's very difficult for a rich man to go to heaven. I told him the Bible says that it is easier for a camel. To pass through the eye. Of a needle than for you. He used to go to church. Now he doesn't go to church. I said, I said to you, it's very difficult for a rich man to go to hell. And you know what he said? It's I don't believe it. But you see, when you are rich, it sends a message to you which is so insidious. The message is insidious. It's invisible it. Ministers to you. Yeah. You are you are unaware. Of the effect that it has on you and when you preach in different places, you sense the humility or the pride which affects the receptivity from. Place to place? Oh yeah. When I was in the Ukraine recently. You know the the. Eastern Europeans, They are far even when they serve. You in a restaurant, as soon as it's somebody from Poland or Czechoslovakia, you immediately know when you ask the person. You have Can I put some salt? Oh, OK. Can you get another OK? When you talk to another Western European what? That's that's what we have here. You know you have. To to give you some answer right now, you know, you see that? Yeah, you, you. Right now, you know. That you are from Africa. So poverty has an insidious slow working effect. Of making you humble. Problems have an insidious. Way of making you humble. Difficulties have a way of just. Lowering you, you understand. And sometimes that is. All that God can do. To help you and to bless you is to give you difficulties, yeah. To slowly work on you and just break down the things. That's minister Pride to you. So one of the things. We need to do is. Anything that proud people. Do. Naturally, we should not do that. If proud people drive. Such a car. So I will not drive this car, but proud people drive such cars. If proud people do everything that proud. People do that. Try to dissociate proud people, don't greet people, try to greet everybody. Proud people. Don't mind what? Try to mind everybody proud people don't have. Friends who are, I mean lower whatever, have friends. I think that's opposite. Try, try, try, try, try. For your own sake, it's so difficult to see pride. That is why when I told that millionaire, I said that the Bible says it is difficult for a rich. Man to go to heaven, he said. It. I don't believe that. I don't believe that it's difficult. Somebody who used to go to church all the time, huh? Now I say you don't go to church. You are mentioning so many other things anyway. All right, so master servant. In pen, in Z chopping of the big. Man of the Church. You have 20 members. Humble yourself. Come and arrange the chest early in the morning and have a prayer. Meeting you Want Ashes to meet you. Outside to park your car. Why? Why you want to? Chop just a ruler of 15 people. Hey, in Peyinzi Peyin is. The big man the. Boss and Z is to eat in everybody, say in Peyinzi. Help your church members when they are getting married. Help to arrange the hall. Can Ellie arrange everything? That's where the people. Discover that you love them. That is how. Do you see? The way you come like. Big man, your chin lower. It. This place lower it OK. This place, gaze it down. Help the people. This one is moving the house from here to here. Tell them I'm coming. To help you I'm. Coming to help to move, help people to move in Europe carried all their things, all their. Things out from the house. I remember 1 church member said they were. Moving from here to here, they had a. Van. I helped. Them to carry everything we started around 8:00 in the. Evening and we. Ended at daylight the next. Day drove the van all. The way to the other side helped. To unload everything, come back. Load everything like me, the churchman, just normal church. That's what you wonder. No SO. Listen, you see the? Even the fact. That you are clapping shows that something like this is strange to you. That's why you even clapped. For something like this, it's. A message What is the big man shape so much you know and that is where the people discover. So sometimes you wonder like. This particular. People that I'm talking about, I remember that just comes to my mind about moving. I'm sure there's more than one. I mean. Up till today, they are. At the point they had to leave the chair, not the the one they had to leave for some reason. But up till today even. Yesterday I was thinking I'm going to launch a book, you know, I was thinking I'm going to send one to that particular person up till today. See, the heart is with me. Oh yeah, the heart of that person's with me. Oh yeah. Are you there? Yeah. Tell me too big. Greet the people at the door. Look where I went to the. You see, there are some things I can't tell, like. Where I went to Singapore. That the pastor himself came to meet us. He'll come and pick me. And it's not a small. Ministry. It's not a small ministry, no. There's a certain humility and just being that, that, that. Because of we, we are down. We want to be up. You have seen 14 members, so I'm going to be up for them to see that. Yeah, that is I, I'm called and I'm Reverend. I'm not. Saying that when there is something. That is given to you in an honour. You don't have to accept any honour or any privilege, but privilege should not be your style. Your style should be working with the people away from the master figure. Everything. That starts, well, starts from. Below it doesn't start high yes you know I don't like people carrying my Bible and even carrying my bags. The bag that I have, I bought it. So that I could. Wheel it myself. I don't like it when people carry my bags and I don't like it when they carry my Bible. Yeah, just allow me to carry my thing. You see some ladies. Coming to church the. Handbag that you've bought that is supposed to. Match with your shoes. You have given it to the answer who? Is now moving. Ahead and you are coming. You are red. Shoot that. The red bag is ahead with the usher and his. Will be coming. With the bag, however, what is that? The red bag is now with a man A. Man is carrying the bag. He's 100 yards away and then. You are coming with the red shoes you were supposed. To hold the red bag so that it matches with the red shoes, but because of him per. Easy, I said. Because of him per Easy. You want to be a pastor. To be a good pastor, sometimes you have to. Work as a layperson. And struggle. Every full time pastor you. Have to so I'm a I'm a man of God, so I can't I can't carry a box. You can't do what? And you know the one having sex in your house. Shall we film you and see what you are? Doing in the house. Then don't do such things and we don't want. To see you in action. And such a you're a big person like you look. Look at what you are. Doing. You take your look at jumping, moving the way you come to church. You can't let. That move. You can't carry anything you. Can't carry a box? A handbag? Nothing. We should. Assume you in action. One day a certain couple went for honeymoon and they came back and I showed them something. I said, oh we have the camera. They said what? I said the camera from your room. Then I showed them. I said this is it. You are afraid, you see. You see now you are afraid for us to see you in action. We see the real you. Master Servant. Yeah. So just just come down, help the church after church, help them to carry their their. Things to the car. Hold their children for them. Help them to sit in the car, open the doors for them. Oh, and how they will look at you and say hey, you know. Something will take their heart. That's why I said I'm praying for you that. You'll be. Anointed with love so that. Love will come out. From you and they will know. When they are far without this person likes. Me, this person loves me. Rather than Saul is the master master in pain. Z 10 years, Jesus said. Jesus said I have made. Myself as a servant amongst you, and that's why he washed their hands. But which? Of you having a servant. Plowing or feeding cattle will say unto him by and by when he's come. Go and sit down to me will he not rather say make ready wear my together? Yourself until I have. Eaten and drunken, and after thou shalt eat and drink. Luke 717, verse 7. And eight and then. Jesus also said to his deserve I have been amongst. You as one that serves. Amen. So I I believe that it's true when you're a pastor, in a certain sense you are the master, but in another sense you are the servant. So the 8090. Percent servant, 90% seventh. Amen. What do you think? Turn with me to John. I want to show you verse 5, Chapter 13. Verse 5. He says then he poured water. Into the basement and began to wash the disciples feet and to wipe them with a towel with which he was gathered. So he came to Simon Peter and he said to Lord, you wash my feet. And Jesus answered verse 713, seven. What you do, not what I do, you do not realize now, but you'll understand hereafter. And Peter said to him, You shall never wash my feet. And Jesus answered, If I do not wash, you have no. Path with me listen the. People whose feet you wash. Are the people who have the path with you? If I don't wash your. Feet, you have no path. I have to bath. You. I have to. Clean you. I have to do The Dirty work in your life that makes me have a part in your life. Amen. Oh yeah, only. That I'm not into. I'm pastoring directly, but I tell you if you. Try try hard you. Know when I go to the coast and I'm sure what I'm all I'm saying I'm sure that I also have a picture of pride which I'm always also fighting but I try when I go to a work case I. Greet all of. Everybody, how are you then they also are they paying you well, always I. Ask them and they become happy that I've greeted them. A big man who can he doesn't even see. These are these are known entities. They are known entities. They have no importance. If I wash, I have a part. Amen. What do you think? Then read on. And Jesus said to him. He does. He wanted to bath his hands to now as he was going off course again, verse 11. He knew the one who was betraying him. All right, now notice verse verse 13. You call me teacher and. Lord, and you are right for so I am. See, that's the master part. If I. Then the Lord and the. Teacher, wash your feet. You also ought to wash one another feet, for I gave you an example that you should do as I did to you. Truly, truly. I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is 1 cent who is greater than the one who sent you. Amen. All right, so notice. This. I gave you an example. That you should also do. What I have done. Amen. All right, but. It goes on and then he goes on and he says at a point somewhere that I have been amongst you as one that serves, but I can't see it right there now, but it's there somewhere, OK. So but we. Ought to wash one another's feet. Now I know that some. People, they even have a church service and they wash your feet. You know some people are doing that. So that is a symbolic. Thing but I I. I think that I would. Prefer to do it really to really wash the people's feet rather than symbolically wash their feet. What do you think? Is it a good idea? Is it a powerful idea? Very good. So master servant relationship is the first one number. 2 bride and groom. Is Jesus the great shepherd? One of the ways he describes himself is as the bridegroom. So. Again. Like I was sharing earlier, loving is a very, very major part of shepherding. And if the bride and the groom are here, you see that Christ also loved the church in Ephesians. 525 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ loved the church, all right? And he speaks of the bride, the church, as his bride, OK. Now a bride. Is different from a wife because there's a bride or a beloved. There's a girlfriend, the worldly type. There's a bride, you get it. And there is the wife, new wife, and then the old wife. Different types of the old wives. Yeah. Old type 1, old type 2. Are you there now? It is. Very, very, very important that you allow love to come into what you are doing. The bridal love, bridegroom's love. Very excited. Excited. Yeah. Great attraction. Great. Interest. Is that not so great? Excitement. So what are the? What are the features of? A bridegroom's lab #1. Great excitement you must be. Excited about the church? And about the people and the members. #2 great interest, great. Excitement. Great interest #3 Great attraction, OK #4. A desire to touch. You must touch. Your members shake their hands, hurt them, touch them, touch them. That's why we shake hands. We shake hands because it's a form of touch, because touching is part of our needs and women need hugs and unfortunately it often leads to unfortunate things. Guive so great what are the first ones? Great, the next. One is desire to enjoy. Yes. The next one desire to be with. You see, because sometimes when you admire you. Desire to be stepped. To be away from. People in marriage often look. Forward to being separated so that I can breathe, so that I can have some space, so that I can even pray. Some people can't pray when your Father you can't. Pray when you are separated. Sometimes you can pray more, it's true. Some of you you should send your spouses go for. Holiday. Go for holiday go when they go you are you can pray it helps. Go for daughter, you can make it. Go, go, go, go be. Blessed three days come on Monday. After. Take. Two days and stay. Yeah, Yeah. But the bridegroom and the bride desire to be with each other, so you must. Desire all these? Things must be in you. For your church, you. Want to be in church? You want to. Go back again on Thursday. And go back on Wednesday. You want to have more meetings? Want to see them come? You know, sometimes we overdo it, but you know. That's some of us don't. Have it at all? We have to prod you. Push you. You know, but you must. Desire you must be excited. Erections are a. Product erection are a product of excitement. It's not a. It's not. A product of It's not a product of what you. See, it's not a. Product of what you see. Because because what? What? What is seen is seen in so many places. Yeah. And it's seen. It's seen. It's seen, seen at home. You see the person. Will you? Hurry up and put on your dress and let's go out. Yeah. Are you there? Erections are a product of excitement. That is why adultery is exciting or brings. Erection the person cannot have. Erection in the house, but adultery has erection because he's stealing something. You see, He's very excited. Say hey, I'm doing something. Hey, or seeing something you shouldn't see on television or in a magazine that you shouldn't see the fact that you are seeing it, you may be. Excited. So that excitement is there with a bridegroom, as when you have the strongest of erections, after that the strength. Do you know that the. Most soul drug in the. World or is it soul drug is Viagra to bring about excitement it's. It's like you are. Boring. So your check. Your check should not be boring to you. Your check should be exciting. And that is why in our marriage, Councilman, we have chapters to be an exciting wife. It's just to cause revival. You're all looking at me as if you don't understand what I'm talking about. Your mouth? Like what? It's a message. So are you listening? Christians must be happy. I am excited about preaching. I'm excited about. Going for a camp I'm. Excited about seeing my people. It's something that excites me. It's not boring to me. We have to go again. And if you are here, you are yawning. Probably you are not called. There's no excitement about God. Brighter love is not there. Bridegroom and bride. Bridegroom and bride excitement interests. You should see them. Should I say that the things that I'm saying should? I say them well. You see that? How many? Of you are married. How many are not married? Let me see if there are a lot of unmarried people. You are not married. Raise your hand. Oh damn. I won't say, I won't say that they know all these things already. Interest. Think about it. How interested are you and your wife? You don't even notice when she's done her hair. You don't even notice when she's wearing new dress. I think that she has not. Bought a new dress for the last 14 years. Think about it, you see, I'm just showing you the relation with Christ has with that he didn't say the wife. And a husband. He said a bride in the pool, very different the interest. Level. Yeah. They don't. You don't even notice what is your hair? That she's beautiful. Some of some. People are married to very beautiful ladies they cannot see. This. They are going to sleep. They cannot even see the beauty of their own because it has changed from bride and groom to old wife and old husband. New wife and new husband. There is still some bride and groom remnants that are flowing in it. You. Many of you have not read the marriage counsel, but when you read it you see how to be an exciting wife, how to revive. I mean do certain things go out? You come, you don't bath, you don't change the nightie you have. When ladies are going shopping, they never go and buy. They never. Buy Nighties. They only buy they are going to buy a. Suit for church. I'm going to buy this to show whatever outside world when they. Come to the house they are turning to down. Syndrome in the house when? They were the girlfriends of. The. Minister of Highways, Roads and Highways. You should have seen them. Full of steel jumping all over the hotel. Room when they become. It's your message. I shouldn't say. I'll say all the things I'm saying. I shouldn't say you don't. Understand anything, so there must you see. If you are a. Shepherd of a church in Nottingham, Northampton, Southampton, Bournemouth. S Moth. Any moth. You must have excitement. You must preach with excitement. You must have fire many times when I'm counselling bridegrooms. On how I have a special counselling if you have a when I when they are going to marry for the first night or even how. To be most of the counselling has to do with cooling them. Down. Take it easy, I tell you have only. One chance to make a. First impression. Take your time, maximize the moment, spread it. Out. Don't just rush. I mean, you just go to the point that suddenly you have finished everything. That is what God wants. To bring into your ministry. Life that excitement, Reinhard. Bonke was saying that people. Tell him that he's the most untypical German preacher. Because he said he said. That I tried to change, he said. I tried to change. Twice. It didn't work. It was terrible. It was changed back to the normal what? Can you do when there's fire? Burning in you. You should see. When you were bridegroom and you were calling, see how they're always texting and calling? When their husband and wife. You forgotten to call. You forgotten to text. I just remembered that I'm married. So if you have. This in the ministry you you cannot even lose your. Members, The excitement, the interest. The attraction to the members. If it is there, the. People who said don't feel it. Because people, though, are not. Cared for people are not loved. Don't. Nobody has time for anybody. So when they send somebody fasting over, them fasting over. Them caring, interested in every. Aspect when they get. Married. They're not interested. In every aspect. You should. See them having oral sex. As if they haven't eaten. They're interested in every part. When they become old man and old man, they they do it. They are not interested in any any any of. These places. When you are a good pastor, you are interested in every aspect. I want to hear your finance, your marriage, your life, your days when that zeal, the bridegroom, bride, love of a pastor is there, I'm interested in your house. I'm interested in your furniture. I'm interested in your marriage, your finances, your life, your health, everything about you. I I I like, I'm interested. I'm attracted, I'm interested. That's how they are when the. Bride group. Bride group OK. They want. Every everywhere, Everywhere is clean. Everywhere is nice. If it's a smelly place. It's nice as if you. Don't understand what I'm talking about all. Right, all right, all right. We want excitement and interest in what we are doing. I am excited. I'm going to preach as a. Crusader next week I'm. Excited. I'm excited about my work. I'm never tired. I just flew 13 hours. I landed here. I'm here preaching till tonight. I'm excited about what I'm. Doing. I'm interested in what I'm doing. I have interested in every. Aspect of what I'm doing. There is some stealing me still, it's not just. I've come. Till I'll preach 1 And I'll sleep, I'll sleep so I. Sleep and then I. Come in the evening, it's. Not like that. It's not like that. I come early and I'll stay too late and I'm interested I'm. Interested. That's a Good Shepherd. You're interested. You have the feeling. Of what you are doing, they said we should. They said we should come to the church by 8:00. By 8:00 to 9:00 is prior meetings and after 9:00 prior meetings we will be there till 11:00. Then by 11:30 we are back in the house. We are going to eat our empathy and distant fufu at 12:30. Auburn lawsuit party at 12:30. No, no, you are even sad when the church is. Over when the last person is going, you wish there were more people. Is there nobody else to? Talk to Is there nobody to? Visit. I used to go visitation with Bishopsaki. We used to work. We will be roaming. Is there anybody else in this area? It's not about. Bishopsaki, it is so cracking down to indifference. I think it's about time that we should return to the House. There's nothing like that. There is. Is there anybody else? Let's say I know there's somebody. Let's call. Let's find. Let's. Find when you are. When you are bride and. Groom. And you have come together. You are not tired. What one time a sudden husband and bride and groom got married? When they got married, the bridegroom. He, he just. Fell asleep, he just looked at me. Hey, the bride, the bride was the bride was lying there in her 90s that she had specially bought. She had bought even. I don't know if she lies back to. Her. She doesn't. She's one of those who don't. Lie but. That day, she bathed. She was wearing a special nightie, lying in the hotel, white bed sheets, virgin waiting and. The man look at her. And he went and laid down, and he turned his head the other way, and he slept. What do you think? How do you think she'll feel? Very bad. What, what, What? Depressed. Why would she feel depressed? Because she's expectant and excited and, and, and why? Why is she sad? What what does it mean? What? What could? It mean? It's spiritual. What could it mean? Doesn't feel appreciated. Appreciate what about? Doesn't love. It he doesn't love it, maybe he doesn't. Maybe what it's not working? It is not working. But he can get some Viagra. Viagra. Listen, what? What could it? Mean well, what would you think that? Woman would feel. Rejected. You don't like me. Am I not nice? You don't like my I did my hair. I did my hair. I did my nails. I did my toenails. You don't like my 90? You don't like my breast? I'm not nice to you. And the sheep, the sheep, the sheep in the church, they are saying why? You don't like me? Am I dirty? I'm not nice, you see. I have too many problems. You see? I have too many problems you see. I'm a problematic person, you see. I'm always bringing probable to the church, you see. I'm not nice. I'm not. Rich. You see, I'm not rich, isn't it? And I don't have. Money, you see. I don't I, I can't. Give a big offering, isn't it? That's why you don't like. Me, isn't it? That's why you're not interested in all my things, isn't it? I'm smelly. You see, I'm a smelly. Sheep, you see? Yeah. I don't have what Peppers I don't have. Peppers, you see, I'm not one of the people with. Peppers, I don't have a. House I don't. Have a car, I see. I'm a poor. I'm a student, you see. I don't have money, you see. I couldn't give 100. Pounds, isn't it? That's why I always give coins. So you don't like me, you see? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you don't like me? So she lay down. She lay down and he turned around. Beautiful. Didn't touch it, turn around, slept so the morning may you never. Do that to your sheep. Examine them carefully. Yeah, even the if it's the problem, problematic. And I like you. You see, that's why people don't have big churches, because every church starts with poor people, students, people with difficulties, diseases. Everything. Every. Church is like that. The real start of the church is like that. So when you don't. Like. And you don't aim at young people. Small boys. Non entities, poor people. You can never have a church, and you can't have ever. Have a big church, All the ministers, I tell them. I said. We have been in Ghana. For years I'm in Colegono Hall, now we are in Kaneshi. And you? You are a missionary from Burundi and you've come to Ghana. You are staying in Kaneshi. Why should my? Juicy members who I have. Been with for years. Leave my church in Kaneshi and come and join you, a Burundi pastor that has come to Ghana as a mission. They will not. Come. They will not come. And similarly if I. Send a poster from. A missionary from. Ghana and it goes to. Zambia or it goes to Burundi or Rwanda. Why? Should the big churches Why in? Rwanda and Burundi. Why? Should their members leave the? Juicy owners of pharmacy shops. And the members of this and the members of. Parliament. Why should they leave? They will not leave the people who can come as students and young people and non entities, immigrants, prostitutes and. Those are the people that can come. To the church. So when you are aiming for these big. Shots and high flying people and so on you are. Interested in the wrong thing? You're interested in the wrong thing, and as your heart is changed, you find out that your church will now begin to work. All the people that are having a church, they all came. I started as nobody's. Nobody. Somebody like you can love somebody like me. Sometimes it causes. Me to wonder. You know that it causes you. It can cause. You to wonder. To travel that somebody like. Jesus can love somebody like you. What do you think? Is it fantastic? Is it not fantastic? Sound And if somebody can take away the ham from here, but just put on the sound first and just let the sound be on all the time, OK? All right, you've almost lost your chance to play start. Just to think that I was so bad. You knew all about in my past, but that didn't make. You knew any difference? You said you could fix all of that. I got so excited till my heart nearly escaped a beat. It feels so good to be understood. Do you know what I mean? Sometimes it causes me to tremble, sometimes it causes me to shed some tears, sometimes it causes me to tremble when I think that somebody, somebody like you, would love somebody like me. Just to think that somebody, somebody like you would love somebody like me. Sometimes it causes me to tremble, sometimes it causes me to shed some teeth, sometimes it causes me to tremble. Just to think that somebody, somebody like you will love somebody like me. When I think somebody, somebody like you, will love somebody like me, it was a perfect example. I'm living a life with no life, a life that was broken and charted in pieces that you put together again. Wow. When I'm down, when I'm feeling secure, that's when your love is gonna last. You said your love isn't just that emotion, it's just a matter of fact. Sometimes it causes me to tremble. Sometimes it causes me to shed some tears. Sometimes it causes me to tremble when I think that somebody, somebody like you will love somebody like me. Just to think that somebody, somebody like you will love somebody like, oh, sometimes it causes me to tremble, Sometimes it causes me to shed some tears, Sometimes it causes me to when I think that somebody, somebody like you love somebody like me, when I think somebody. Somebody. Like you. Like a nice person. Like you, you get it, A nice shepherd. Like you a pasta. When you go to their house, their students visit them. It causes them to tremble. Yeah, it causes them to tremble when they think of somebody like you who loves somebody like me. Wow, is it all amazing. I visited students. In the medical school. Medical. School. Did I visit you? Stand up if I visited you in medical school. And I visited you in school. Lay gone, you see now. Was IA pastor then? Where? And somebody like me will have somebody. Like you at what time 12? Midnight. Wow, lights out. No. Lights. I was standing downstairs. In the dark. Wow. And you came down or I came up. You came down a. Long time before I came. Wow. Somebody. Like me, will love somebody like you. And now, you see, she's a lawyer. She's a big person. She helped me in the church. You get it. She's doing a lot of things. It's one. She's an overseer, you see. But when I was when I was. Love somebody like her. She was. Nobody. I She didn't have even a beloved. Or you had a beloved. Don't look to your left. Or to your right. Somebody like? You will love somebody like me. That's that's that's. If you want. To have a good church and a big church, don't. Think about important people don't. Think about Rich people don't. Think about politicians. Don't think about owners of things or car drivers of cars. Think about people who use buses. Students, people who are. Immigrants, people who are visiting. People who are don't have papers, people who are. Refugees, these are your people. Follow them, go to their. Schools. Your church will work. I visited you. Several times in the medical school during exams time, normal times you sat in our room. I sat in your room. Yeah, even when I was a doctor at the House of Flats, you came there one time. Midnight 12 Midnight. Man. So many times you visited us, if I hope we're writing exams, it was as though we're writing with you, remember? You come to resolve this that that that's all that type. Yeah, I don't remember all. These things, but you see. That's that's the. Point you see then the. The person you see it causes it. Causes me to tremble. When I think that somebody like you is interested. In somebody like and not when he's doing exam, what does it have to? Do with me I've already. Done mine, I've already passed mine. It has nothing. To do with me. I'm already a doctor, I'm already OK. My life is OK, I'm OK. I'm all right. But I'm business student. Is it that's that's that's where the interest? I'm interested in that place. I'm interested in that part. I'm interested in that. Part. I'm interested in that. They'll never forget it. They'll even if they leave. You they'll still remember that you were. Interested in everything The 1st. The first time I came to Lighthouse, I remember it was, we were, we used to have games and then play table tennis and so on. And you, you bought, you got and you gave me one. I remember. I don't know why I can't forget, but it's a message. This message continues on the next track. Keep listening.