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04. The Purpose Of Shuffling Conference
Bishop Dag Heward-MillsAbout this sermon
Camp Title - Warnings of Purpose. Machaneh Collection - 69. Preached in 2010, Ghana (Cape Coast). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.
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Welcome to track #4 of warnings of purpose. Now the purpose of Shuffling Conference number one, John 1516, Shuffling conference is to ensure the continuity of the church beyond the life of the founder and beyond the life of any single human being. Amen. John 1516, you have not chosen me, but I have chosen you and ordained you that you should go and bring forth fruit and that your fruit should remain. Amen. Now that is the purpose of shuffling, one of the purposes of the Shuffling conference. Is to ensure that if. The founder is not there, the church will be matching unnaturally. That is why shuffling conference is very important for everybody to be part of it. So those of you who are against shuffling conference, you are against yourselves. You see, when there is a strong leader, right, he has usually multiple gifts working on so many things that he's doing are because of giftings that are several. He has management, gifts, administrative, financial, spiritual, anointing, pastoral, evangelistic, Apostolic. Different things are working at the same time. Few people have all such gifts at the same time. That person's time to be around is lim
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Welcome to track #4 of warnings of purpose. Now the purpose of Shuffling Conference number one, John 1516, Shuffling conference is to ensure the continuity of the church beyond the life of the founder and beyond the life of any single human being. Amen. John 1516, you have not chosen me, but I have chosen you and ordained you that you should go and bring forth fruit and that your fruit should remain. Amen. Now that is the purpose of shuffling, one of the purposes of the Shuffling conference. Is to ensure that if. The founder is not there, the church will be matching unnaturally. That is why shuffling conference is very important for everybody to be part of it. So those of you who are against shuffling conference, you are against yourselves. You see, when there is a strong leader, right, he has usually multiple gifts working on so many things that he's doing are because of giftings that are several. He has management, gifts, administrative, financial, spiritual, anointing, pastoral, evangelistic, Apostolic. Different things are working at the same time. Few people have all such gifts at the same time. That person's time to be around is limited. One day he will be gone. When he is gone, is that the end of a great thing? He should not be so shuffling. Conference must now. Run. The checks, even though the founder is there, that is the best way he should be. You must. That's why the bishops and general superintendents. I don't know who is in charge. All of you. You. Better exercise your powers, transfer people, make changes, move the touch forward, increase the attendance, do whatever and let people see that you are in charge without that's. Why? That is the reason why I don't come for shuffling. Hey, if I had I would come and you see something as shuffling. But I've left it so that you, you, you just starve them yourselves. If tomorrow you hear that I'm dead, then the next shuffling conference you attend, you take this issue. We are doing this, we are doing this, we are doing this, we are doing this. We thank God for the life of the founder and he is God and all that. So let's move on. That's all. And all of us have to be part of it. That's how it is. And respect it. And if you don't respect it and then all, what happens? Say, ah, this Bishop I knew. Bishop, Bishop he loved. Me, so me, you know, you know, may not know why I was in the Church and so on, but you know that, hey, look, look, that is what we don't want to hear. That is what we don't need. Because the idea was not to just have a check for yourself. Bishop is great, but hey, Bishop is very anointed. Oh hey, Bishop, he will. Hey, So what? It's rubbish if there are praises. Let's hear it in before the throne. When we stand the throne, he says it. There you are this, you are this, you are this. That is true, but your impression can never be right. We have to wait. And see you understand, So there's no need to get any praises or anywhere else. We want something that will be going. On. And that is why the staffing corporate must accept its authority and those who will not respond to it and will not obey what he's doing must be booted out now. So that we. See that the staffing court is what is actually ruling? I don't know. I equally read they said they have transferred this. Person they've moved it, they make change. I equally read the news and say wow, this what is happening. Great. I see that the appointing pastors, they do this, it's fine. Ask me, I'm just invited to. Be the preacher of the nation. I don't know who is being ordained. So say all of them are being ordained For these reasons of great, this is nice. I also come. Yeah, you see. The hammock case. Look at a yard. The man. In Togo who? February in Cote d'Ivoire Mobutu. Southeast Seku from 1965. He ruled up to 1998, he just ruled the country, you see. But I want to, I want to say that and I'm coming to the next point and the next point is that and it's unfortunate. The next point is that the shuffling company is to provide a better government for the check than anyone man can provide. One man. One man can be only limited even if you are. Good. In your leadership, you will be blind in some areas because everybody has blind spots that he cannot see. Even when you are diving, there are some places you cannot see. Even when you look in the mirror, you cannot see some things. So why should the? And I myself could see that my blind spots were increasing as the church was growing. I could see that my blind spots were increasing. That is one of the reasons why it's not just for continuity, but because I realized somehow I go to a place and I realized that this whole plan has been forgotten. And I realized that I became more and more and more worried. About the church that I am. Overlooking so many different things. That is why I wanted a church to be decentralized in its running, so that people should also do their best. So that the limitation of one man. And since I'm still around, I am able to also use my experience and whatever I can offer to let the church work. And you see, it's like the Kodesh, I don't go there. I don't know, it's going back. So if I die now the only thing is just a funeral and then everything goes on normally. The only thing will just be. The funeral and then everything will just carry on. There's only like now on Sundays who should preach now whatever who is going to come here shuffling? I don't attend. I'm not, but only I'm a speaker and I don't say I can be speakers. So I've distracted myself from it so that it's working. It doesn't mean that that I mean very many of you before we we we are we are don't be thinking. That I will die before you. Think about yourself and be praying. Now the purpose of shuffling is to get a better government than one man #3 it is to provide a New Testament pattern of leadership. Amen. In Acts chapter 15, Bible says in verse 1, Certain men which came down from Judea taught the brethren, and said, Except you be circumcised after the manner of Moses, you cannot be saved. When therefore fallen banalas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas and certain other of them should go up to Jerusalem and to the apostles and elders about this question. Are you there? I mean, asked after 15 and I'm reading to you a problem that double said there was no small disputation and dissension about this question. And they decided to go to the apostles and elders, which were at Jerusalem to go and sort it out with them. Go to the Governing Council, the General Council, whatever council it is of apostles and elders. Now let me tell you something. You see, if you don't respect something. You will ask that. Then I say you've not thought it through when you say ho a church is a church governed by a paper. So a pastor he was, he was rebelling when the there was a they brought up the Constitution and they said this was the constitution. He said, is a church to be controlled by a paper or by the Holy Ghost. You see, you see, this guy has never been to school before. So the church be controlled by a paper. That's why he had a paper. He said should the church be controlled by a paper or by the whole? When the Holy Ghost is in the church, you say a paper. This is how he described the Constitution. Is, is, is very, very. He has no education. I have never been to school and cannot read or write literally. It's true. He has never been to school. I know in person he cannot read, cannot write, and that's why you talk like that. Because the church is It's absurdly. Reductio you reduce it to absurdity. So you when you don't respect the council of elders, you 2 When one day you become the council of elders, nobody will have time for you. You just look at you and damn you and walk away. Are you there? So let's read on. And therefore they had. No smoke. They went to the apostle and elders, and there. Arose upsetting of the. Sect of the Pharisees with beliefs saying that it was needed to circumcise, and when the apostles and elders came together to consider the matter, there had been much disputing. Peter rose up and said unto them, Men and brethren, you know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of God and believe, Amen. That is one example of the solving of the problem. About all people should be circumcised. What do you think? There were apostles and there were elders. So we have a general council and we have councils in each area. We are trying to have more councils, more. If you pass by on your way, you can look at the Cape Coast Church headquarters is being built just by the main on the main road. There you will see Cape Cape Cos God will need you to come next year. We can even we could even have a shuffling conference over there, but it's not yet ready. All those they are. We are making all of them. It's like you and all this place because Gilly stand up. Are you thinking about a simple zoo? Have you thought about the problem there? The church you see because you are where? Where are you in New Jersey? New Jersey, listen, you are not. Thinking of as simple. So what about soft pond? Have you been thinking about the soft pond issues? No, Bishop. Exactly so and I can't. Blame him for not thinking about the soft man issues. So I would rather like to have somebody days here, you understand and the Council here that will be thinking also about, but at the same time we are all connected at the same time we also so we have to have. More. More, more, more, more, more councils and more, you know, well, we and. You see, it's something that we are trying to respect and practice. Because we are not the first set to be glorious, beautiful and doing well that have come to. This world that after the exit of the founder. Finish no more. We've wasted our time. We did not fulfill John 1516. We did not bear fruit that abided anywhere. It's just fizzled out. Instead of fruit abiding, it fizzled out. If you look at our church in Geneva, many churches have come and gone, but our church is still there. It's been almost 20 years. That church is there. It's a good testimony that we, we are still there, that the fruit is abiding. It's not been easy, but we are there. Amen. What do you think? It's a good idea that we are still there. Otherwise it's just a one time 11111 time wonder. Amen. So, Gilly, what about? Amanzi annamabu, I don't even know where. You don't even know where you see now. You cannot tell me that the. People in Annamabu are not important. They are very important. Anumabu. I said Philippa. Don't you come from Anumabu? I said Philippa. You don't even know where it is. You also come doctor go comes from Anumabu. All of you should have. Interest in your hometown. So yeah, you must be a church in your hometown with the building, everything. You must have that interest. Amen. All right, you know, when Church of Pentecost was founded, there were other very powerful the divine healers, Church of Pentecost, Apostolic apostol S11 apostles church apostles several Today you see what is standing Pentecost. Pentecost, the founder, handed over to other people as chairman, chairman, chairman. He was alive. He was a liar. You preached at Lagoon. Bishopsaki was there. He preached a message from this one thing I do forgetting those things that that are behind I reach on. Is that not the message that he preached? Lagoon, you were you there? I was there by the Greece. Yeah, you were there. He preached there. He attended. He attended conference. He. Was 74 years. He attended a conference in Suedru. Is it? You told me and. What did you see there? I saw thousands of people at Gallet. I gave him my microphone. I mean, thousands who had gathered at a convention in Syria, National Convention, and they were singing in three songs. And that's where one lady came. You know, they sing the song they sing, they sing it by the spirit. And they all started learning, learning it. And they were singing in worshipping in three. He just fell on the floor, start crying. Thousands of who fell on the floor. The chief. The founder. The white man the. White man just lay on the stage and was crying as the people were just watching. Thousands, almost an end in Swedrow. And that became a song. That's when it was. It came. It came the lady just came on the stage wonder the likenesses came to sing it. Just watch your song and the atmosphere just changed. People are gathered. I mean he he doesn't understand the song himself, doesn't speak to. You. That's why you come here. Mission to a country you don't speak the language. If you have patience, wonderful and he fell on the floor, he. Was crying so very some way. Why was he? Crying, I think the mass, the gathering of the people and from. Everywhere he came 1940 something and came to Asaman Kazi and then to Swede Drew Winnieba and so on. Came to stay in Ghana all these years. I see he made the Cat 4 on with that and you see set of Pentacles is like if I said it's a white government because they just elect peacefully and they just change the Pentacles leader. You see that he's been changed. No, no, there is no question about it. His authority and the leadership oversect of pentacles. Well it's respected and understood. It is that pattern that we are also trying to follow. We are we are children. That's what we are trying to follow, so that if one day we are not here, you see that we come as a chairman of whatever is changed, another person can and we accept and respect the decisions and the movements of the thing and then we are working. But if you are not here, you don't participate in it. And then they come and because you are somewhere in some corner somewhere, then it's like when we say something or something is serious. What is shuffling? So small, small boys, they just get up to come and humiliate what is shuffling. They should sit somewhere so that I do what I have to do. I'm working for God. That is how people talk. We are doing the work and before you realise you, you send a letter. I here, where I am in New Guinea, there is no more lighthouse. There is no more lighthouse. The name of the church is no more lighthouse, but it's New Guinea Christian Fellowship. That's the name of the church, New Guinea Christian Fellowship. Because there's a country called New Guinea. We have Papua New Guinea, New Guinea. Now you say New Guinea Christian. You are a case already. Before you even start that thing. Why? I will teach you why the responses or they should be. At where they are. That is what I that's how I used. To be when I was in Calgary, when I was their leader, that's how I was. I was an Orangu, yeah. When they called for me, I said look. We are women, souls, that's how. That's me. That's an Orangu. That's why I don't just cut off people and. Kiss. People easily, I don't easily kiss. I will show you something, how David dealt with Absalom, his prayer for Absalom. And that's why it's important to repent and see in yourself the evil. Amen. In Acts chapter 6, verse one, at this time, while the disciples were increasing in number, a complaint arose on behalf of the Hellenistic Jews and among the native Hebrews, because their widows were being overlooked in the daily serving of food. And the 12th. Some of the congregation of the disciples has said It is not desirable for us to neglect the Word of God in order to serve tables. Select from among you brethren, serving men of good reputation, full of the Spirit and of wisdom, whom we may put in charge of this task. But we will devote ourselves to God and to prayer and the Word. And the Phaedom found approval with the whole congregation, and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith, and the Holy Spirit, and Philip, Procorus, Nicano, Timon, Parmanus, and Nicolas, a proselyte from Antioch. And this they brought before the apostles, and after praying they laid hands on them. Amen. Another example of a group that were in charge of something. I'm giving you biblical example. This point I'm sharing is that we are. Following a Bible pattern? Challenge me on that and see is it not in the Bible? Was that not the council of apostles and elders? Should we not give the test to apostles and elders, experienced people and pastors and elders? Why do we not also have some? When it is in the Bible, yes, God has used me to do something, I've been able to take a lot of decisions and so on. It's nice, but we want to transition faster towards something that is more Bible looking. Thank God for what He has done. Thank God for everything, but we want to move on. How many will agree with me that if we have some pastors who do not come to shuffling, do not attend, and do not respect His decisions, we should relieve them of their positions now? We shouldn't wait to see I remove them when there is nothing else we are waiting. To see than that, Charlie, you people you see, when you meet an Orango who is spoiling what you have been building, you will see that it is the most painful thing. That's why I'm trying to help you. Even I'm assuming that you'll be here longer than me. You, you, you, All of you may go and I will still be here. But you see, even if you, even if I, I, I outlive all of you. The church should be running like that automatic autopilot long before. That's why I said that eating the kodesh by the grace of God, if I the only thing left is. Funeral and then we are moving on. The next. Following Sunday will be no different from the Sunday before and shuffling the same decision. This we are doing this, we are doing this, we are doing the same. That's all. Isn't it? Not powerful. The part that will be affected will be healing. Jesus. Crusades, the Crusades. But the crusader is not a church. Crusader is not a church. True, it's evangelism. Rather, you will live long. Nobody knows #4 Shuffling conference is to overcome the problems of distance in governing a worldwide ministry. Amen. Look up Pastor Gilly who does not think about Salt Pond. He doesn't know where Anumambo is. How can I put in charge of him Central Region of Ghana and when he is in America, will he remember these people? Maybe not. Is it past a big daddy who is just in Takrade? I cannot be sure how. Quickly he will remember the people in Saltburn because it is a different western and then we have come to Central Region. You think that it's nearby, but it's also far so the worldwide nature of the ministry requires more representation and development of a certain kind of more regional church, but not regional that you are taking off on an when you take off an anger, then we are also coming for you, Tally. Hey, you see the real pull him down. That is where you see pull him down. You see that that is that is the reason why people don't even have assistant pastors. You watch television, you see big, big churches, that assistant is their wife Finish. There's no other. Because they, they know as soon as you give people such privileges, they, they take off into other things. So as soon as you say, OK, you are in charge of America. Oh, we in America. That's why the Americans should come and travel. Because when you are in America, you are very, very isolated and deluded. Also, the Americans are really deluded. You know, American world is so different from the rest of the world and everything that is so is, is so unreal. And that's why you need to travel. You need to be part of everything. Otherwise you, you think that the world is America. So now when you hear the American pastors give my private jet and I gave 1 to this and this and that and I gave whatever so many cars and my house has this and my house helicopters over the house, all kinds. Look, it is not how the world is. Let's know how the world is. The world is not like that. Maybe you don't know. And so we expect many of the American pastors to become more integrated in the church. Otherwise you become disconnected. You don't know what is really happening. Very few people have those dollars that you may seem to have or have a life like yours. And you see as you stay. In America, you become more afraid of going out of the world. Because in America I have so many protections and so many things. So you see that the Americans are more scared than any group. They are more frightened than any group, more afraid of things, more afraid to leave, more afraid to go out, more afraid to be full time, more afraid of everything. Because they are, it is so secured by the lives that they have there and so deluded. And such a group can easily be deluded into separating themselves on a different angle. Oh yes, easily, easily. This is because your your seclusion in your world sets you into delusions. Very unreal things. About the rest of the world and about souls Switzerland also descend and sometimes when you sometimes the pastors come. So we want to spend $10,000 to rent A hall. Do you understand, like in Switzerland, in Geneva they are asking me now 8000 francs to spread the hall. Another hall will keep 2 branches. So between the two we are spending almost 10,000. Which is getting to 10 is almost 1 to one now almost $10,000 for how many people on Sunday you think about that, how many churches are is because you, if you have ever been to the North or been to some of the place that we are going because you have a global picture. That's why they come out of that little comma because it's a small comma. We were sitting, we were sitting in Ghana. We came to Geneva. We come to hell, we come all over this church is by 1 local church. If you don't know, let me tell you. And that is where a lot of the partition conflict comes because you, you are just thinking about that place. It's like, it's like one day I told my father. You know, I asked my father, my father's house. I asked him. I said that I wanted a land to build a house. And he told me, he said I have other children apart from you. I have other children. Yes. It's not that I can imagine. My father told me that I have other children because the house that he had was in a prime, prime place and I didn't have anywhere. So I asked if I can. Use the garden. A part of the garden to build a house there because he had he had sort of suggested it before. You see? Yes, sort of mention something in relation to that. So I said that I want the land to build the house. He said I have other children, but it's only her father. Even my mother, my mother was a pointer. One day my mother brought a father. So see what I've given to you, I've given to her. She show all her children the same, because her father is thinking of all the children. Are you in your corner? You are thinking of yourself. You don't know. You don't know it's because you are a child. And that's why I am saying that you, you, you should go and see where people are having church. You should go and see where there's no electricity, no light, no water, no toilet. They meet in sand, in dust, in the sunshine at 40° Celsius, 38°C. That's true. But you don't know because you are in your corner in America, you are in your corner in Switzerland, you are a corner in England. You are not with realities around the globe. Oh yeah. That's why I encourage people that sometimes people say want to come with you when you are going to Australia, come with me when I'm going to offer, come with me when I'm going to Salaga, come and let's go to those places so that you are part of what I am doing. Then we are all together. Then I understand and you understand. One pastor, a certain pastor, he came from another church. I will never. Even in my experience, if you bring me a path from nature, I will never accept such a person. But I accepted them. He came. And so when I wanted to make him a pastor, I decided to bring him to Ghana. Look, he was abroad in Europe, so I brought him to Ghana and I said, you know. Before I made. Him a pastor and I gave him the responsibility of that church. I said OK, go round. I sent him to Kumasi, Tamali, Takradi, different places, yeah. Because I sense that Orango isn't in him, but I wanted him to see Tamali hear, hear, hear different things so that he understands what we are trying. To do still he became an Orango after some years and even still after what I'm saying, some people will become and he will say, oh, the people over here in Switzerland, we need to have, what do you call it? We need to have a bus to bring the people. We need this, we need this. We have to do this, we have to do all kinds of things. And he did not. Understand the system that we have in the church. That's why today, as a lay pastor, he's taking money from the church too late as well. Yes, he's stopping from 2 breasts, the left and the right. Are you listening to me? Yeah. What? What is the point that I'm? Talking about what? What point am I talking about? Distance. You can ask Pastor Richard. When he was coming to, when he was doing this. I said go everywhere, everywhere. Go in Ghana, go to any, Go to the north, go to Burger, go here. Go ahead. Don't sit somewhere. Sitting in England, in some castle, somewhere, you don't understand what is lighthouse. You don't know what is lighthouse. Don't sit there. Come move around. Go and see. Practically be involved. In the team really don't sit somewhere in England and be talking. You don't know what is really happening. That's why you sit somewhere and say I'm I'm collecting money. I don't, I don't know what you are using the money for because you are in a corner. You are in a corner. And you don't know. That's why I will. Invite you to come so that we all be involved. That's why I, you hear me when I'm raising funds for him, just that I will welcome you to be our treasurer because it's only somebody that we did on the field. The person who disburses the money, you can, and I give you that post so that you'll be there. You you'll be sharing the money as you can do as a volunteer job for one crusade. You just be done. Pay for, pay this association, pay this group, pay this group, pay, pay for everything for us. Just be. Just do it for once as a volunteer. Oh yes, and that is the essence of that. When we sit down, this person will bring his remark from Switzerland, this one will bring it from England, this one will bring from Nigeria, this one will bring from Zambia, this one will bring from all of us together. Let me tell you, I'll. Tell you something, Lighthouse is strong because we are being together. The person who tries to disintegrate us into. Swabbing is trying to take us, take away our strength. If you don't know, that is why United States went to war, the War of the Union and the Confederates, what is it? The Civil War they had? Because the Southern people, this Memphis and Louisiana, those people even. Atlanta, all those people wanted to be separated. We are not America. And they said no way. It is America, it is America. It's tough. And they fought. They fought over it and they fought more than 1,000,000 people. Died in that war. Yes, to save that union which has made America the greatest. Country in terms of finances and so many things in the world today because they fought for it and we are going to fight all the way. You got it. These are the realities that we are dealing with all that. It's my constant. I always, I always see people, I say you don't really understand the church. That's why I said to the person Rachel arise and be moving, be moving around. You cannot be so and so without knowing what we are really doing. Go everywhere and see for yourself and be real. Not Ghana. One guy UN, he worked for who and he went to, I think it's Gabon, Zigabon when he went to inspect the harbour, Zigabon. You don't know whether it's Gabon, one of these countries, I think it's Gabon. I think it's Gabon. When he went the minister of development, it is what he did. He said he wants to go to a certain area when he was driving with the minister of development, something like that. The guy said. I've never seen this place before in in the city and it's a major part of the city. The minister and he had been a Prime Minister and a minister for eight years, then after that this white. Man who worked for I said WHO? World Bank, he said. I need to go to the harbour. So he went to the harbour, the guy said. I've never been here before. He also Minister of Development son, I forget the exact. Word. That's the African leader. He's never seen it before. He's never been there before. He doesn't really know who he's living. He doesn't really know what he's doing. He doesn't know who he's in charge of. He doesn't really care and they can go to hell anyway. They can go to hell anyway anytime a black. Man is leaving you. You can bet your bottom dollar that the further you are, the more you will be forgotten. The further you are, the more you will be forgotten. Even the golf course, if you go to Achimotal Golf course, the hole that is in front of the office block, it's beautiful and it's green. The rest is not like that. The one that's in front of them, they they govern it well, it's green, it's different, it's nice, it's whatever. As soon as it's out of sight, that is it all right, all those who are feeling sleepy, just walk to the back. OJ and others, are you feeling sleepy to the back to the back. Anybody please just go to the back now quickly so that you don't, you don't make me change my message into something else. Number, number what I'm giving you #7 Shuffling conference exists so that we will learn to accept the future pattern, accept the pattern of succession and government. Please, if you are feeling asleep, you just get up now and move to the bank. Urinate. We, we drink water, coffee, whatever, because we are on it. Amen. Are you there accept #8 shuffling conference exists so that we will practice. No, I've missed two points. I will come back, but I'm giving you #7 you are getting #7 before. Sometimes you eat the dessert first, then you come to me, OK? Are you there? Shuffling complex exists so that we will learn to accept how things are going to be #8 shuffling exists so that we will. Practice it. Amen. Not only will you accept, but you. Practice. How it is we get experience? #9 shuffling complex exists so that we will achieve. And arrive there. Safely. Amen. We want to arrive in the future government now. How many are glad about that? We want to get there now, not wait to see how it may be. No, no, no, no, no, no. Are you there? We. Want to arrive there? Now we don't want to wait and see how it will be. No, we want it to happen now, once we are all here and we are thinking experience it now, we want to accept it, number 87. We want to accept it #8 We want to practice it #9 we want to achieve it now and number. Ten We want to respect the wisdom of this more enduring method of government and succession and respect it. We want to respect it, but when we respect it, we will like it and say that look, let's take this matter to shuffling conference. Do you understand? At that shuffling conference we will decide that means you have become to respect shuffling conference. Just like the disciples respected the presence of the apostles and the elders in Jerusalem and said let's take this matter of great disputation to the apostles and elders. It means they have become to respect that thing. Did you get this point #7 is that so that we won't accept it? Because you can accept it, but you don't respect it. They said we should come. They said this. They said this, but you don't respect, You don't think it's good, so you must accept it then #8 you must practice it. We have to be doing it. Doing it. And we see, OK, let's change over because from Pastor Richards that I told him that you have 4 years to practice, to do it after four years to hangover. And he's handed over that part. It has developed into more things. So he has also taken another position #9 so that we arrive in the future now and #10 so that we will grow to respect this method. We actually respect it and feel that we can decide when we go for chaplain. You wait. When we go for chaplain we will meet and we will all discuss it there, and by all means the apostles and elders will inform us what is the way and how things must be done. Hallelujah, Superluation. When we brought it up yesterday, I mean, like many people said we got the letters, we read them, we had questions, you know, and all that, you know, we discussed here, questions came up, we answered the questions and the conclusion was that look, now we understand and we are in the floor, you know, or whether or not it, we brought it to the chaplain and we resolved it. And what the apostles and elders say is final because it's not that like we are coming to vote and say all Jews and all Christians, modern Christians going to vote, circumcise or not, bring your penis. Are we going to cut it or not? I said those who are circumcised cannot vote yes, so all circumcised. I said no, these guys are voting, they are already circumcised. Hey bring, let us see. Is it circumcised? No, it's not circumcised. No. And circumcised only will vote on the left, circumcised on the right. Hey. Let's check the apostles and see whether they are all. So we are going to arrive there now. And I believe that we have arrived and we are arriving. We are going to practice it now, isn't it? Like how is it? Do you practice? Isn't it? And then once again, we are going to arrive there. We are going to accept it, yes, that's the way it is. Amen. And then we are going to grow to respect shuffling and equally respect titles in crates as they happen at different places. But you know that the final thing will come to shuffling conference, just like in the Methodist Church. You see when? We. Do this. You see, we are, we are removing a test from our lives. What is the Methodist they have what they call conference. Is it, am I right? Those two of you who are Methodists conference, is that not their main thing or is it Synod? The main thing is conference Synod or conference? Conference is the main and Synod is what? Titus in Crete Synod is titles in Crete and Conference is Methodist Conference. And you see, I like my mother-in-law. My mother-in-law, the vice president of Methodist Church, so every time when she showed me whatever, she showed me the Almanac. That's where I learned it from Covenant sand. I learned it from Methodist Church, this conference. So I learned it from Methodist Church. John Wesley used to have, they used to have the conference. He was alive. Oh, yeah. They had this, organized it, and they were doing, they had their Methodist commit to decide. Yes. If you know the history of the church, that is how it is. So I'm just trying to. Follow. It's like few churches have lasted. A lot start but not lasting. The Methodist has lasted. So I got those. I went conference, that's when I went conference came. I don't have that translation and let I see this. Before this is what they are doing. So I said let's. Have the Church of pencils. I watched, I said to a guy he handed over. He was here. Let me also learn all those things. I'm learning from the people that they have done well, they've done well, They've gone. Their fruits are abiding, their churches are there. If you go just around here, you'll see a Methodist anywhere here. Just move. Just take your car and say and look, when I get a Methodist as I will return. You will see one just now. You'll come back just now. You'll see one just now, thousands and thousands worldwide ministry. Should we not learn from it? Should we not practice it? Should we not? Fight. Anybody who is trying to spoil things in a way, you should rather admire me for just relinquishing. Powers. And say that oh, have it decide do whatever. All the building projects now have left it for them. Every council is trying to build on its own. I've left it for them and they are building. So now I'm so happy to inform you that when you pass by and you see, for instance, just here in Cape Coast, is the council in these people are trying to establish this one so that they would disconnect. It's actually a divorce. They are trying to do that. They are doing something trying to settle them before so that they separate and then everybody is on his own. But I'm happy to say that many of these headquarters and different things and all of them, I'm not the one doing it. At least I used to do it with Alice, my construction person, when Notch let God send the Eagle to come and land. So I used to do that. Now I don't. I don't do all those. They do it themselves, the Bishop and other people. They are doing their own thing. And so when? You see, you can clap for them and say, oh you did well, you've done with a nice church you've built and all that. But about are you not building a? Church in where? Navrango. Because have you been thinking of Navrango? Is that Henry? Have you been thinking of Navrango? No, Bishop, tell the truth. Tell the. Truth No, Bishop not at. All what have you been thinking about? Kentish Town, Kentish Town, Swiss Cottage. And then Swiss Cottage and your business. You told me. Tell me, what have you been thinking about your employees, my employees, the business employees, how to make more profits. That's a big one. So you are not thinking of Navrango, isn't it? Should we not let them also have their counsel so that they can I thinking of Navrango? I don't think we can struggle too long about. I thinking of your employees and as a layperson, your childhood dreams. You are following your childhood. Dreams. Do you have a dream to be a CEO and you are a CEO club for the childhood dream that has come to pass? No. When we do what we are doing more, we will drive away the case. Of the. African black way of doing things look, Africa is the only part of the world in the last 30 years that has become poorer and poorer and poorer and. Poorer we are the only the whole world is gone down W actually we are far. Poorer Ghana is moving into primitive. We are now going into what we call primitivization. It's an economic web. It's not, I'm not inventing. It's an environment. Everything is good. You take your child to school, let's say school, secondary school. Now they stop using toilets. They use KVIP now. Yeah, I can mention classic school that some, you know, good schools in that they've stopped using toilet, they use KVIP now. They've changed the dining halls into dormitories. Change laboratories into class for everything is spoilt, I'm telling you. It's the type of leadership you have. Politics is everything. Voting. That's why I don't want. Voting. Let's use spiritual prison. This person should do it. No vote. For the voting changes, everybody chooses. Them by a different method. The whole nation. I tell you Rd., there's everything. One of our pastors, he took his child to school. They don't use water, they use cave that he returned quickly with their child. My child, they fall inside, my child is drowned inside toilet. They will stop fishing with outboard motors because the fuel they cannot pay, they cannot repair the motor. They using paddling. Whatever. All industries should be closing down, factories closed down, everything closed down. All those are deindustrialization, depopulation, primitivization. You return. Back to the most basic form of life. Because anything is just normal. It's a type of hammock. Leadership and confusion. So what we are doing, we should rather embrace it and say, look, this is anti cash leadership, antithesis and I want your support. Yeah, I want to feel that. I want to feel that we are running the church. We are going to do our best. Bishop, you sit down and see how things grow. You know, I remember. When we started a shuffling conference, we were how many churches? It was some number about Aman. Where is Aman? How many were will you remember shuffling cover when we started? And I remember we came and I said, look, we should have a vision to have more churches than we made a banner, whatever it was nowhere near 1000. Yeah. So you see that under the the leadership of the shuffling conference, the church has gone past the aims 1000, whatever before it was way before and we are moving on. And you see, we have the true statistic. This is how people say we will not fill forms again. You say you are. Why? Why not a hammock system? That is why you say we will not fill forms again. Yeah, because that is hacker. When we say we've got a church, we know the attendance, we know what was preached. We know what? If you don't bring a hacker, we are just deluding ourselves and just send ourselves like there's a church, there's no church. So he said we will not fill forms again. You want to take us back into the dark ages? You must admire all these things. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to let you admire. You know, I went on a golf course with one of my pastors yesterday. Well, and then he was talking and he said, you know, it's amazing that Ghanaians will not choose somebody like this because the man who owns this hotel, he stood for elections and Ghanaians, 1% of Ghanaians chose him. But this pastor, I was very happy to hear his comments because I realized that my teachings on leadership are beginning to sink into some people because he said that it's amazing that Kenyans would not choose somebody like this who has come to a wasteland and create this. These people who have impressed are just doing politics. Politics they have never done built anything. See Ghana is a wasteland with. This to be made nice and built so we. Need somebody who has that. Ability, not just somebody who has been in the party for a long time or can talk and say, I don't see why I should. I should work in a hotel that I cannot sleep in. But somebody who can build something real, create and build from zero, they will not choose him. Canadians will not choose this man. They will choose some on another basis. That's why we don't want voting in the church, because you would choose. Because you say Fancy has never been the leader of Lighthouse. It has always been guns. It was Bishop that he was means he was a gang and then Bishop, IE he was a gang and and so on. You start to make it. So we want a Fenty to have an opportunity. So we're hey, during the last election we voted for Professor Mills. He became the president. There was a big billboard in the Central Region, Cape Coast. They have written Khanna's President Pam in Kruma from the Western Region, Hila Lehman from the Northern Region, Kufur from the Ashanti Region, President Rollins from the Volta Region, Achampon from the Ashanti Region, Ankara from Greater Accra, Agan Busia from the Bronga Hafur region and then rolling from the Volta Region. Even Kutuka was also from the Volta Region and from West Central Region. No 0, no one has from Central Region of Ghana can. So that is the basis we need. It's our hotel. We need to have somebody from here. That's it. But you see people who look at it, it's true from the harbor. Region, we had one, Ghana we had one, Northern we have Western Region, we have Upper Region, Eastern, Akufuando, Eastern Region, everybody has been only central has not been. Why should we should also have ours? Why? That was the question. Big question. Why look at that. So we are going to accept it, we are going to practice it, we are going to do what, achieve it, achieve it and then we are going to grow to respect it. And the last point, we are going to love it. Isn't that fantastic? Now I gave you #7 isn't it? I jumped from what? Number four. So now I'm going to #5 shall I give you a break? I think so. I'm going to give you a short break. How many minutes do you want? 10 minutes. 10 minutes, starting from now. You're blessed. Praise the lad.