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03. The Ministry Of A Sower

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
July 6, 2025 1h 21m

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Camp Title - Mission Africa ‘The Ministry of The Sower’. Machaneh Collection - 90. Preached in 2014, Zambia (Livingstone). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications

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Welcome to track #3 Cosmicians Africa. Hello Hallelujah Father, thanks for this opportunity in Jesus name Amen. What a blessing you baby seated. It is a blessing to see you all here from. How many of you are from Zambia? Wow. How many of you from Zimbabwe? How many from Malawi? Wow. How many from Lumumbashi? Right turn with me to Matthew, Chapter 9. Our theme is the ministry of the sower, so it's just a theme to launch us into what we really want to talk about. Matthew 9 verse 37 Then say, if he unto his disciples, the harvest truly is plenteous, but the laborers are few. Pray there for the Lord of the harvest, that He will send forth laborers into His harvest. Amen. Right. And Matthew 13, verse 30. Let them both grow together until the harvest. Everybody say harvest. And finally John chapter 4 and verse 35, Say not ye, there are yet foremans. And then cometh harvest. Behold, I say unto you, lift up your eyes, look on the fields, for they are white already unto harvest. And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal, that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together, Amen. Herein is that sayin

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Welcome to track #3 Cosmicians Africa. Hello Hallelujah Father, thanks for this opportunity in Jesus name Amen. What a blessing you baby seated. It is a blessing to see you all here from. How many of you are from Zambia? Wow. How many of you from Zimbabwe? How many from Malawi? Wow. How many from Lumumbashi? Right turn with me to Matthew, Chapter 9. Our theme is the ministry of the sower, so it's just a theme to launch us into what we really want to talk about. Matthew 9 verse 37 Then say, if he unto his disciples, the harvest truly is plenteous, but the laborers are few. Pray there for the Lord of the harvest, that He will send forth laborers into His harvest. Amen. Right. And Matthew 13, verse 30. Let them both grow together until the harvest. Everybody say harvest. And finally John chapter 4 and verse 35, Say not ye, there are yet foremans. And then cometh harvest. Behold, I say unto you, lift up your eyes, look on the fields, for they are white already unto harvest. And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal, that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together, Amen. Herein is that saying to that one soweth and another reapeth. I sent you to reap that. Whereon ye bestowed no labor, other men labored, and ye are entered into their laborers. Amen. Well, we are sharing about the ministry of the sower. Is that what it is? Yeah. Ministry of a sower. A sower went out to sow. The Bible says you're you know that story. It is Jesus's most important parable because it defines the work of God in a very marvelous way. But at this camp, what I want us to look at is the purpose of the ministry of the sower or the the reason why the sower went out to sow. The reason why the sower went out to sow was so that he could have a harvest. Amen. Harvest, all right, Is that not what the Bible teaches us? Why? Why would you go out to sew? What? What was the reason for going out to sew? It says, Then saith He unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the laborers are few. Pray ye therefore, the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth laborers into his harvest. Amen. So we are learning from this right here that Jesus, OK, is Jesus is teaching that there is a harvest. OK, there is a harvest and the sower. Goes out to sew. So that he can have. Is that Godwin's wife? What's her name again? Diah, How are you? Good to see you. The sewer goes out of sew so that he can have a harvest. What do you think? Yeah. So the sewer goes out to sew and doesn't get a harvest. Then we've got a problem, isn't it? So all this sowing that we've been sowing in the church is intended to give us a harvest. All right, Now Paul said something. Paul said something interesting. In First Corinthians Chapter 9, First Corinthians Chapter 9, verse 7, who goeth a warfare at any time at his own charges? And who planteth a vineyard all right, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? I mean who? Who? Who does that? You plant and you don't eat of the fruits. You get it. Say I these things as a man or sayeth not the law. Also that's 10 or sayeth he ate all together for our sakes. For, for our sakes altogether this is written, that he that plougheth should plough in hope, and he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. You see, when you sow a seed, you should sow a seed with hope and in great hopes and expectations. Yeah, so when a sower goes out to sow, he's expecting to reap a harvest from the seeds that he is planting. Amen. So as we are here in Zambia, in Malawi, in Zimbabwe, in Lumumbashi, all right, next time I'm not going to join you all together because I can see that most of the people in Zimbabwe didn't come. So next time I will not, I will go to God. If the Lord permits, I will go to Zimbabwe and then I will not allow anybody from Zambia to come there and I will come to Zimbab, Zambia and not allow anybody from Zimbabwe to come there. I think that is better, isn't it, Because when I went to South Africa I didn't allow anybody to come there. But we are all here, so next time but. If if you sow. In Zimbabwe we we are sowing in hope to have some kind of a harvest. Otherwise why are we sowing? Huh. If I sow love into your life. I'm expecting to reap some love. Is it not true? A greater love? If possible, I should reap some greater love than the original love that I put into you. I shouldn't reap hatred and wickedness and sadness after sowing. Love into your life do you see if we've we've spent a few hundreds of thousands of U.S. dollars in Zimbabwe, which we have to buy various buildings and so on. I mean the church should benefit from it The reaping is not even the money, but the. Church should benefit from it. If it doesn't, then something is wrong. Do you see? So we we are all people who are sowing that we should. We are expecting a harvest now when you don't. Get the harvest. You start to be disappointed and you start to question whether you have done the right thing. Amen. Now a certain king, yeah. He was looking for someone to be the heir to his throne and I think he didn't have a son, so he decided to do a sort of farming competition. Yes, a farming competition. And so he decided to assess several people who the population had chosen were very intelligent people who could be the leaders of the nation. So when he got that selection, he assembled them in the palace and decided to test then because the country is an agricultural nation, I don't want to mention which country it was, so he said. I want to see your agricultural skills and care over a period of three to four months. So he shared seeds to all of them, to gram plants, and he gave them specific flower pots because he didn't want anybody to have a different, yeah, different soil. Different. Somebody said that the soil was this, the fertilizer. Everybody had the same thing. So after three to four months, they all came back with their pots. Beautiful plants, Yeah, harvest. Because you are going to be, what do you call it, the head of state and the head of an agricultural nation. So you must know how to. So they were going to assess all the plants of the people. Some had grown very tall, some had branches, some had different things that they were all working with. And one guy came and his pot was totally empty. Yeah. So no, he didn't have skills, he didn't have whatever. So when the time for assessment came, the farming, whatever minister, they came, they assessed all of them and everything. Then the king also came and they had chosen the life, and they chose this guy with a very beautiful pot. And then the king came along and said, no, no, no, no. It's not just using Afghanistan. I agreed to that. The guy with the empty pot, what a shock, he said. Because all these people are lies. Before I gave the seeds, I boiled. All the seeds. I. Boiled all the seeds. All the seeds were boiled. And. All of them are lying because they all had boiled seeds which should never have grown out of there. So the only honest person amongst them is the man with the empty pot, and he chose that guy is. To be the head of state, Wow, isn't it not amazing. Now for some of us in the church work, it is as though we are planting boiled seeds. Yeah, yeah, yes. It's as though we are planting boiled seeds because things are not coming out of the pot as it should be. Yes, yes. But it looks as though the seeds we are planting are boiled seeds. Because we are not getting the harvest, you see, Because harvest is the vision of. The planter harvest is in the mind of the sower. A sower went out to sow and was thinking about the harvest. He must have been thinking about the harvest because that is the only reasonable reason why a sower should go out sow. It's because he's expecting some kind of a habit, even if he doesn't say so. Why? Why in Zimbabwe you have so many farms? Do you have farms like that in Zambia? Do you as good as are you as good as Zimbabweans in farming? I don't think so. I think Zimbabweans are better at farming. Yeah. So we as a church. Are looking for a harvest, and not just a harvest, but a bumper harvest of all the things that we have been planting. Now, if we as pastors, shepherds and workers in the church are sowing all these seeds, then our question is where is the harvest? Where is the harvest? Huh. Yes. We want to. Make some midstream corrections so that whatever is limiting the harvest, you see, that's why that competition that the king organized. It's it's a real competition only that that on that day he was not really looking for agricultural skills but honesty. But if he had given them normal seeds, you could have seen the different things that could have come up. But on that occasion he was looking for honesty. So when you have given you a seed that has been boiled and you have come up with a very tall plant, I mean it shows that there is something wrong with you. Are you with me? So we are looking for something that is going to increase the. Harvest Now Bishop Richard, I believe, was sharing with you about the advantages of a mega. Church. Now the advantages of a mega. Church. Are like the blessings of the harvest. You see if did you finish all the 25? Oh really? Did they show you that you'll get more beloveds? Oh, that's a very important one. When you have a mega church, there are more beloveds. There are more possible people to marry. Yeah. How many are not married? Lift your hand if you are not married. Wow, Where are you people? Are you from Zimbabwe? Zambians who are not married receive it. And you are from Zambia, Malawi. OK, now God wants all of us to marry. Because when you come into the world, it's a natural drive to have sex and to marry. And even when you don't marry, or even when you have sex, you still have an imagination of how it would be like. If you, you will be married, you still have an imagination, you have some delusion, idea, feeling what it will be like. You get it to be you and whatever happily ever after living. This is a kind of idea that you have. So a mega church builds a large community of potential beloveds, all types of beloveds. Now you can see from the different types of Coca-Cola that we have today when they are even offering you a drink these days. It's not a simple thing. Do you want Sprite Coke juice serving up cook light? Series Coke water zero Pepsi Fanta so and you'll be surprised people will choose everybody will choose something different so me when I go to a restaurant with I, I I like to say everybody cook don't start just to take a drink all that becomes a very. Long process. Meanwhile, it's all sugar that is being dissolved. Sugar. Either color black, color red, color orange color dissolved sugar. Wow. In the same way, men have varied tastes and women also have varied tastes for beloved. I mean, you will see somebody who is going to marry. You would have thought that he would have married this person, but he said no, no, no, I don't like it. I want this person. He said no, no, no, no. I like this person. And they are always choosing somebody different. It's amazing sometimes when you are a pastor in manner of officiating the wedding, certain thoughts will be occurring to you at the wedding that why did this person choose this person? What did they see? But it's like the drinks that we order. Everybody has a different drink. When you have a big church, your type will be found in the church. If you like short ones, we have short. If you like fat ones, we have mega ones. We have people that fit on 1 1/2 chairs. Yes. We have small ones like mosquitoes. So it's an advantage of a mega church, it's a it's a blessing and we are looking forward to these things. There will be more weddings in the church. Church will have more. Weddings always. People are married. Maybe people are married. People are always. Happy. It's nicer to to to to get married than to die, you know, so. These are the blessings of a mega church, Amen. And these are sort of some of the things we are expecting to enjoy. We're going to have prosperous people in the church. Yeah. People who when you are coming for the camp, they will say my buses, two of my buses will bring their members. People who own the hotels who will say they can stay here as long as I'm the manager here, they should be here. Recently we had a crusade where I stayed. And a whole lot of other people stayed. The owner said it has the house has never been used before and this is the first time and she is giving it 100% free. For everything, we should use the house, and she's blessed to. Use the house. No pay, whereas other places they will charge us $5000 to stay there for four days. Yeah, yeah, that crusades. So there will be people who will just be giving away things and donating things. But when the church is very small. You may not really have such people, but we are too few. You get what I'm saying? Connections all over the place. There will be connections. Yeah. When? When you have a mega church, you pick your phone and you make a call. Yeah. When we were coming for the come one of the embassies of a certain country. There have been so. Many problems, you know. Then I took my phone and started making some calls and I got to the ambassador herself. I said there is a harassing peace Clippers in somewhere in your embassy, but you see where the church is not big, you cannot know the ambassador. Are you with me? So there are a. Lot of benefits, a lot of benefits of a big church apart from the spiritual benefits, physical benefits. So all of us should. Want the church to be big, and the bigness of the church is the harvest of the sower. The sower has gone out. To sow and the result of his work is what you are seeing. Amen. So if you deny us of the harvest, he said that he that flowers should plough in hope, and he that treasures in hope should be partakers of his hope. Now listen, if we have sown into you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? In other words, if we sow, is it a big thing if we reap? No. Is this to be expected? Yeah. If I've sown into your life, is it a surprising thing? One day I should benefit from having sowed into your life. You should never be angry with that. And you should rather want me to reap. Otherwise, you are trying to intervene in God's laws and preventing God's laws from happening. Yeah. You are trying to prevent what God has set in motion, that the one whose sows should reap. Now as we are all here, we are going to build a mega church and the churches that we are building and the wet things that we are sowing are things that can and should become large. The harvest. We want the harvest, I tell you. And we are not backing down from that vision. We are, we are determined. We are determined to experience. The harvest for which we set out to sow in hope, even if there are setbacks, even if there are slowing down of certain things, even if it's not as fast as we thought it would be. We are more determined than Alexander the Great. Yes, we will not back down. We will not return from our original idea that we set out with. Yes, we wanted to have thousands of members, not 10s of members, not hundreds of members, thousands of folks, thousands. That is what we set out for. And we, we cannot be turned back like go back to the house, go back to the house. It has not worked. No, rather we have to become more and more and more determined to see the harvest in Zambia. I cannot imagine why I should not be able to see more than 1000 Zambians. Only. When I say, when I say that I'm coming here, I don't see why I shouldn't see. I should see less than 1000 Zambians at a camp. I don't see why not. Yes. What is the difference between Zambia and South Africa? Because if I go to South Africa, I will see more than 1000 S Africans at a camp. Yeah, I, I, I see No. We didn't come to Zambia by chance like you know, so I met a pastor so any time you are passing through you can come to minister in our church. And I said I don't pass through California on the way to anywhere. There is no where in my Rd. that goes through California that none of my routes passes through California. I can't pass through California. So when he told me that, I told next time you are passing through Ghana, you can also what I'm. Trying to say is that we didn't go to Zambia or Zimbabwe, we didn't go to Zambia accidentally like we were going somewhere, then Zambia was on the way so we just passed through. Intentionally we go there. Intentionally we've planted churches. Intentionally, we are building the church and. Doing the work. Amen. Are you listening to me? Yeah. So it is important that we assess and ask ourselves, are we getting the harvest? That for which we came intentionally to Zimbabwe, to Congo, to Zambia, to Malawi, Are we getting the harvest? If not, we are going to ask the land to give up the harvest. Yeah. Supposing I went to medical school for seven years and after seven years you will not give me my certificate, Huh. I've been in this school for seven years, sowing seeds into my mind. Seeds of Physiology, biochemistry, anatomy, internal medicine, surgery. I have sown the season when I should just get the paper so that I can use the paper to explain to people that I am a doctor. You don't want to give me my paper. It's not going to be easy at all. I demand my harvest. Hallelujah. So we must ask ourselves, all these churches that we have started, we are going to start even more. Even a church, the church must be able to. Buy a car. For the pastor to be able to use when I came to here. I asked the pastor when did you buy this car? And he said to me, it is not my car, it is not my car. First of all, you shouldn't be driving somebody's car. Second of all, it is not his car, you know. But is he a church? Is he like my church? I don't struggle to have a car. Yeah, I've been the pastor of that church for 25 years, odd years and more. I shouldn't struggle to to know which car to use. I don't have to struggle all. These are, you see, all these lack of this lack of this lack of this is a sign of the seeds are being sown and the harvest is not coming. Yeah, I shouldn't struggle to have a car. By the grace of God, whatever. Car I think is good. For me, I should be able to to have one. I don't have to be at the mercy of people or even some of you can even even be able to sew cars and say this is a car we have bought for you. I visited a pastor friend of mine recently and then I saw a. Certain car that only certain people use. And he said this car, my test member has given it to me. He says I should use it. I don't, I don't use cars that you give me to because what about if I go and crash the car and then I become I have to do body works a car that I I haven't even bought while I'm doing body works on a car that I haven't bought before. But he said, he said the man has bought me a car. And this is, he mentioned the name of the car. Why should my children not buy me a car? Yeah, it's part of the harvest of sowing seeds in people's lives. Somebody gets up when they say I've bought a car because those who can buy cars can buy 2 cars. Many people who buy cars can buy 2. Many people who can buy one car can buy 2 cars and can decide. So when your tech hasn't got members with cars, you need members with cars. Amen. All these. Are signs of lack of harvest the returns? Amen and a pasta is not AI am not in the pastoral work to get a car. No no, no. When I was a student, my father bought me a brand new car. New with the rubbers on the car. Do you understand new new car. I never I was a student when I had my first new car. Yeah, a student in school and I, I I'm not preaching because of a car. Yeah, I've never had a vision, a dream to have a very nice car. My dream car was PEJO 405. PEJO 405 When I say dream, it is a dream that I had, that God should bless me to have a. Piggio. Is that how you call it here? Piggio Peugeot Fuja Fujo, Fuja, Fujat, Fujat Fujat Fujat, Pigot Fujat, 405. Pujat. How do you say it? In Zambia? Peugeot, Peugeot. But in Zimbabwe the T is loud. Pujat or Peugeot, That's not a very big car, is it a big car to have us a live stream? It's not a, it's nothing, it's not a special. And my dream, it was a second hand car. It was a second hand Fujat that I saw and I said Lord bless me that this man's old car not used abroad using Ghana that God will bless me so that I should have that second hand Fujat. I'm explaining to you that we are not preaching to get a car, but as part of the harvest. Do not be surprised if one day your church member buys a car and says, Pastor you have been going up and down with this old car or struggling without shoes from here to here. Take this car. And be blessed. There is nothing wrong with that pujat. Wow. Receive it if we have sown. Unto you spiritual things is it a great thing, if we shall reap. Your carnal things, it's not a great thing at all. There's nothing. All right, So all the benefits of a church cannot come when it is small. It's like the harvest is not a harvest until the harvest is really big. Look, when you are producing certain crops, unless it's in a certain quantity, it's not commercially viable. You just have to close down. Where was it that you told me something has closed down? It's not commercially viable recently. Huh. Guinea fowls. Not Guinea fowls. Something else. They were. They were producing whatever, but it's like they don't get enough of it. So it's not worth producing, you see. So there is a certain quantity above which we must produce. Otherwise it's not commercially viable and successful, even though we are getting some. So a church must cross a certain number. If it doesn't cross a certain number, certain aspects of the benefits of the Church never. Come out. Yeah, it has to cross a certain size, that's the fact. If the church doesn't cross a certain size, certain things which you you are supposed to benefit from and certain blessings for even miracle service. Look, it's not easy to have a miracle service with only 20 people in the church. Even the pastor will be afraid when he's praying for the sake because as he is praying 20 people are standing there and all of you stand at 1st 2:00. Rows 1/2. Suppose I'm having a. Miracle service. And these are the only people in the church. And as they stand there, what sickness can they have? Then I'll say maybe God is opening your eyes. Put if you cannot see, put your hand on your eye. But all of them are looking at me in their two eyes. And we know you too. And none of you have this blind. Do you see? Oh, I say, those of you who cannot walk, you're all standing. Wow. So if it's a miracle service with just a few people, it changes. It changes. Yeah. One day I was having just a few people like this, and then I finished preaching. The Lord told me to pray for the sake. I said Lord. It is not a nice. Thing that you are asking. Me to do now do you see you're trying to spoil the service but then I heard the Lord saying to me if you don't pray for the sake I'll kill you. I felt that that was what he was telling you. I. Prayed for the in Jesus name you cannot see. One person came and said, look, this eye has been blind and it has just opened about 20 people there. We are blind. Yeah. But you, you, you need to hear something. I will kill you or something before you. Because normally, normally when the church is small, it takes supernatural power to be able to do certain things. Yeah. So sit down. You find out that. God wants to bless us so much that the church must get to a certain level and the harvest must come to a certain place for all of us. For you to even benefit our miracle service, I'm telling you or for certain creates of people to be in the church or certain benefit for your pastor always sweating because he's always working and he's very sweaty. One day I went to a restaurant and the waiter was always sweaty and he had a special handkerchief for wiping his sweat and he used to hold it like this. So as we were keeping the order, I was looking at the guy that he would write you write the order. So as he's bringing you your food, you get it. He's he's sweating. He's sweating and he's serving you the food. It is not. Nice. If your pastor is always sweating as you see him, he's come to your house. He's wiping himself. He's struggling as he's presenting you the word of God. He's a straggler, sweating pasta, wiping his shoes. Is it nice? No. Fine. So God wants to lift the chest to another level, the level of the harvest, and we must harvest. We must harvest, and it's not commercially viable or sustainable. Unless the harvest gets to a certain dimension and I see us getting to that dimension, it's going to happen practically. Hallelujah. So I wrote a book that is called Church Growth that has several areas of importance for making the harvest. Come up. Many of us, because we don't realize the importance of church growth and of the harvest, are unable and uninterested in reading that book. It's true, not even reading it. But it's a book not to be read, but to be studied. It's a book not to be read in its entirety, but it must be analysed in small, small sections because there are certain things, if you look at them like you start reading it like a storybook, you'll not benefit from it because there are too many things in it to make a harvest come up. I can perhaps best analyze it with making a child grow up for a human. Being to grow and we are. We are the body of Christ. For a child to grow up. I mean it's just takes so many things working. The diet of the child, even the brain must not be damaged. The brain of the child when you give birth, don't allow them to keep you in the labour ward beyond a certain time. When you see that from the time that you started having contractions, you know there should be a certain time by which the baby should come out because if they contract and every time they contract, the blood flow to the baby's. Brain is reduced so that to help to squeeze the baby out. It's like that the blood flow and the oxygen is getting less so that the child is under stress. So you when you are monitoring the heart, you see that the heart, the child that is coming out is being squeezed. Very traumatic experience to come out into the world. And when it takes too long before you realize the head is stuck, some blood is not going. And when the child comes out, you beat the child. And instead of the child to cry, No, no, the child will be quiet. No crying. After some time. You'll be beat the child after, maybe after one minute or two minutes before you hear all those things. It's the they are very bad signs. Yeah, he should have cried immediately on seeing such a world class we are in now. You have started crying. You get it? Yeah. And you? See, not that it's a bad role that God made, but the devil, the Viper has bitten and it has affected the world. Are you listening to me? And. When the brain is damaged. You see a child which should grow. He cannot grow. Sometimes they are shorter, the brain cannot work and they cannot think, and sometimes they cannot move parts of their bodies. All kinds of things. You see the person he cannot develop. He's seven years old. He doesn't know when he wants to poo poo. Meanwhile the stomach developed. So he's no more eating milk, he's eating normal pap and meat. So the poo poo is not a child one. The child poo poo, it doesn't smell and doesn't have a certain it smell but not in the same way. You know that it's a Milky poo poo, but this is a real mature one. At the age of nine, you see that Charlie is. Just there in the house, No. Then he's put all over in the house, cannot develop, cannot grow. And you see that that is caused by a damage to the head. So This is why we are. Very concerned when a child is coming out and there you see that the biggest concern is the head and the brain. And that is the pastor of the church. The growth of the church is affected first before by the. Head. Before you haven't even eaten, you have not drank your first milk, but you will never grow even when they give you milk because of what has happened to your head. I say you haven't drank your first milk, but no matter what milk they give you and vitamins they give you cannot grow beyond a certain point because of the the head. Is not correct from the whole process that has come so test growth can be laid. Squarely, the failure of it or the success of it can be laid squarely at the feet of the pasta, the head. So when your chest doesn't grow, you're a pastor, you're a good pastor. You never blame the people. So the people are somewhere, the people are like this, the people are like this. There is nothing. Wrong with the. People, I have noticed many times you see that a chest cannot work. This is not good. And you change the pasta and bring in somebody to the same place that the person was saying that the people are like this, the people are like this, The people don't like this. They are not like the people here. If we were here, they would be good. But the people here are like that. You change the pasta, a different kind of person, and suddenly you see that place becomes a main place. Yeah. And the church starts to wet in a certain way. Yeah, so the brain, the head, the head of the church is the number one person that affects the church. That's why in one of the sections here it talks about church growth and. Hard leadership or the type of leadership that you are supposed to have if you are going to have a good church. So when you are in a church which does not have a good pastor, you see that the the church cannot grow. It cannot grow. He cannot. It cannot grow. You may have a very good singer, you may have a very good keyboardist, you may have even a billionaire coming to join the church. But the church cannot grow because it starts from the head of the church. Yeah, that's a fact. So pastors would do themselves a great favor by humbly saying to myself, I am not a good pastor. So that you can be made into a good pasta. Because when you say, if you come to me and you come, you come to me in the hospital, the clinic, and you say to me, I ask you what is wrong with you. You say there's nothing wrong with me. Then I there's nothing that I can do. And I'll just say that, oh, how are you? Really? What's your name is? OK, so bye, bye. There's somebody outside who has something wrong with him. And I need to see the next patient. Can you go out please? You confuse the person who wants to bless you by saying that there is nothing wrong with you. When I was in medical school. Final year medical school final year the final, final, final exam of all exams. A boy was given to me. This boy was, I think about 12 years old or 14 years old. And when he came to me, I asked him what is wrong with you? He said there is nothing wrong with me. There is nothing wrong with me. Yes. And he was a child playing in the children's block and had been in the hospital for more than a year. So below he was playing around and there's nothing wrong with me, but he had a serious problem. But he said there was nothing wrong with me. His folder was fat like this. You see, I've been around for so long. His folder was so fat, so thick, and so even the father said there was nothing wrong with me. Even the professors who were examining me, when it was time for them to come, they themselves were going through the folder to try to understand the case before they came. So they ended up taking about 1 1/2 hours more trying to study the cast. I was also with the guy trying to understand, but the guy said there's nothing wrong with him. So when you come and you say there's nothing wrong with me, no. Then if you confuse the person who wants to help you, the person who can the way the help can come, it cannot come anymore because the person is put off and he is out of confidence. He has no nothing to give to you, you see. So pastors always need to think of themselves as something is wrong with me, something should be better. Even if you've been to the Bible school, that doesn't mean anything because a sword went out to sew, but the fowls of the air came and stole the seat out. So there are some people who went to Bible school is as though they never went because the seat has been taken out of their out of their out of their house altogether. So that's why sometimes you see people go to Bible school and when they come they are unable to do anything because the sword went out to sew. But fowls of the air have come for the seat and taken out. That is why you come. You come for camps, you come to Ghana, you come for whatever and a sower has gone out to and planted certain seeds in you. Sometimes you've heard it again and but each time the fowls of the air come, all the thorns choke that thing. But let's just stay with. Fowls. They take out the seed so it's like as though you have never even been trained. That is why we are finding out many of the people who came to Bible school are fruitless because the fowls of the air have taken away the very seed that was sown in them for four years in the Bible school. So. Sometimes you meet somebody as if the person has never been to a camp before, as if the person has never heard certain things before. How long have you been? Have you not been around for a long time? I've been around but I saw. Went out to sew and encountered fowls, fowls, Zambian fowls, Zimbabwean fowls, and you ask yourself, did you not hear messages on mega chat chat growth anointing this and that and whatever, But Canaan, have you not got whatever? But because as sower went out to Seoul and encountered fowls, fowls, fowls of the air came and took the very thing for which you went to have the seed planted in your soul. And it looks as if you have nothing. So a pasta often needs the seat to be re sewn. That is why we read. Books again. Klufio, Pastor Klufio, stand up. Do you remember one day you came to me? I came to Johannesburg and I was unpacking my bags in a hotel. What question did you give him? A microphone? What question did you ask me when you saw me unpacking my things in my in my bedroom, in my hotel room? I ask if he's still reading the same book that I first. I mean, he first got it. That was about after 10 years. You saw the book where? In your in your hotel room, among the things that you are unpacking, I put by my, I put by my best side, isn't it? I was unpacking my things. When you arrive somewhere and you unpack your things that you are going to use, isn't it like your Bible or whatever? So I unpacked my Bible and some other things, isn't it? And you saw it? And I saw it, Yeah. He was observing what I was doing. And not only was observing, but he was reading to see what I was. And then he asked me, what did you ask me? Are you still reading this book? Am I still reading this book? A book that I I found in Pretoria 10 years ago, 10 years before that time, yeah. I was, I was, I was with him. I must have been with him in that bookshop when I found that book. The final quest. That's why things don't benefit you, because you put it in you once. And the foul of the earth picks it up tomorrow. And it's also so many of us are like people as if we remember, as if you don't have somebody who has written a book about A or you don't have somebody who has even preached about B, or you are like somebody who has never, ever heard a certain message like this ever before in this world. Yeah, many, many of my people are like that. And all the things that I'm preaching to you. They are all practical things, truly, but I, the theoretical ones, there are many things you can write about, but I, I, I, I it's so difficult to write a book that I avoid writing things about theories. It is what I have seen it before that I write. I write it what I have seen it before. Yeah. And that thing has been put into you. But it's as if you've never. You are just like the person outside who's the manager of this hotel outside there who has never had it before. Yeah. So that is how come you find lighthouse churches which are small, very small, although the founder of the church has a. Big church and has many big churches, but you see that the children as if he has never shared with them the secret, but he has shared it with them, but the thousands of them have picked it. That is why you need to sew and re sew and re sew. And so that after 17 sewings, they finally lodge it. Even this morning, the book that I was reading is a sequel to that book. I was reading it this morning. Yeah. Yeah, I was reading it again this morning and I saw something in the night. I saw it. In the morning I checked and then when I went to the toilet, like I tell people, when you go to the toilet, read it, I went to the toilet. I took it with me, with Joyner and I you see me that you think I'm doing something, whatever, but I'm actually getting revelation there. Oh no, the toilet. But it's a house. Of it's a House of. Revelation, House of Revelation. And on top of that, when you come to the people whom the fowls of the air have taken the seeds, and you take out the very seed which has been stolen from them, and you open it and say, I want to plant in you a seed which I planted last time but has been stolen. The reason I know it's been stolen because I can see there's no fruit or harvest. From it. They start to feel sleepy and they start to die in front of you when you even suggest that I am going to replant a seed. So most of the time when I'm preaching, I'm preaching from my books, but I don't say what book I'm preaching from because the very people whom the fouls of there have stolen that seed from are the very people whose pride, and a lot of pride is based out of nothing. It's called idiopathic pride are the very people. Who need the seed to be replanted? You. You cannot even preach to them the way the attitude will be. You even die out of preaching before you finish preaching. That's true. If you know something, you, you bear the fruits. Of it, yeah. Wow. Are you listening to me? Yeah. Sit down. So, ladies and gentlemen, it's it's not enough to have a book in your house or to have read it once, but to have sown the seed again and again and again, and if until you see the fruit of it, I don't think you should have. Because for me, if if I wanted it, if I wanted my church, I would take two books, check books and mega church. I will have them on my left and on my right and my two children, one on my left, one on my right. I will never. Leave those those two books until my church becomes big and it will become big. But once by opening it, you will see something. You just if it's like like like magic, just open anywhere you open. It's not a book. It's not a reading book like a storybook. So I finish reading it. It's something that a page is a revelation, and on that page is the revelation that you need for a certain seed to come. Well, if I if I sow a seed of church growth into you and you RIP it, you church will grow out of church will. Grow. Look, I went to Yong Gichou because I wanted my church to grow because his magazine is called Church Growth Magazine. Church Growth Magazine. His conference is called Church Growth International. His preachings are all all the titles of his English message start with the word church growth. If he's going to preach about prayer, he writes church growth and prayer. If he's going to preach about miracles, church growth and miracles. If he's going to preach about the cell system, the church growth and the cell system, if he's going to preach about administration, it's called church growth and administration. Everything is church growth and that. So now I want my church to grow. So I start to go to where those seeds are. Do you understand and try to invest in my life, the seeds in particular, that can lead to that thing. Because and, and and as I was leaning, I realized what Yongicho, many things you see in a book, you cannot apply it because you feel that you are different. But at a point you realize you can apply it but in a different way. For instance, when I read young Ichosbu, he was talking about the cell system and he said, look, everybody's house can be used as a cell. But in Ghana, people didn't have houses. Most of my members were staying with their parents, staying with their uncles, staying with their aunties. So I decided to do the cell system in the church on Thursdays. So the cells are in the church. That is what gave rise to ministries, Shepherds ministry meetings and fellowship, Shepherds ministry, Shepherds Chapel Shepherds, and so on. My sister here is really here. This. This one here are you from the No you, you, you do you. You have to go closer, otherwise you are going to. Spain, Are you from Zimbabwe or from Zambia? You know the answer. Are you from Zimbabwe? Zimbabwe. Fire. All right, now, are you listening to me? So the point, the point that I'm trying to make. Hallelujah. The point that I'm trying to explain to you. Hello. The point that I'm trying to explain to you is that your the seeds of what have been sown into you should should come can can give rise to the fruits. I sow the seed of Chet growth into my my life. Amen. I. Listened to the tapes over and over and over and over. Yeah, I listened and listened and I went to Korea. I was sowing seeds into my life. Church Growth. Today I'm benefiting from church growth. My churches have grown. The churches have grown. Literally. Yeah, literally grown. I went to Church Growth. I read Church Growth magazine, listen to rape jungle about every single book young Guichu have written Red successful cell groups, church growth anything by young Guichu because I'm interested in church groups and I saw and restore and restore and restore and reso together. Harvest Google's largest church in Ghana. You will see Google's largest church building in Ghana. Largest is largest. Google and see yeah. And from a point of view of somebody who is despised because in Ghana, people my color are despised, Yeah, when you see, they just shout red Lebanese man, Obroni, this, all kinds of names they shouted at not out of honor, but in a derogatory way. Yeah. So what I'm saying is that I'm trying to explain to you that. You can have a harvest. So nobody should be jealous of me that my church is grown. My church can buy me anything that I need, including a plane. If my church wants to buy a plane, we can buy the plane with. Cash tomorrow. With cash. An aeroplane. Oh yeah. I'm talking about a harvest. I buy an aeroplane tomorrow. I know how much a plane is. If I'm not buying a plane, it's because I don't want to buy a plane, not because it's just I'm not buying a plane, not a car, not a car. Yeah, tomorrow. Tomorrow we'll buy it. If that is what I want, that is what we need. All right, Maybe a small plane that we can buy. There is a plane. Wow, are you listening to me? Yeah. So I, I, I, I, I can see that the seeds you have been sown seeds into your life. It's true. You may have been to Babel Scuba. The birds of there have collected it already. It's true. Look at your members. 20 members, 10 members, six members, 14 members, 24 members, 32 members. I mean, it is not you. You have not. You have your the seed that of Ted group has not yet borne any fruits in you. Maybe we as a church were deceived and we've appointed you as a pastor. You get what I'm saying? Because we are men. So we may appoint you without knowing that, Asuma, you are not a pastor. Oh, not less spiritual, but challenge. There is nothing. There is nothing to you. You are just, yes, a boiled pastor. Wow, now how can we reach Africa with? Our small, small, small churches, you know, there are a lot of people in the world and more people are being born, you know, more and more people are becoming all kinds of things today, you know, and God wants us to rise up and do better because every single member in the church. All of you sitting here, you are All Souls that would have been armed robbers, thieves, HIV addicts, sexual machines. You like sex in Zambia, are you? Are you sexual in Zambia? Zambia and Zimbabwe would like sex more, huh Zambia? Wow. Zambian ladies are into sex. Wow. Zambians are into beer. What about sex? They are not into sex. You are into marriage. But I heard. Zambians know how to have sex where they are specialist, so the Zimbabweans like it more, but Zambians are more skilled. How can we reach the whole world with our small, small, small small churches when people are being turned into drunkards, drug addicts, homosexuals, sexual machines? How can we win a lost world with this very minimal harvest? You know, it's not yet commercially. You see, it's spiritually, commercially viable. It's like we have started farms. But no, I had, I had some cows. I've been rearing these cows for so many years. The last time I counted, they were 12, and I have had them for about 10 years, trying to let them increase to about 1000. Yeah, and it's not viable. It's not viable. I don't need anybody to tell me I have to be humble and I have to accept that I'm a bad farmer. And the truth is that. I am a bad farmer because my my eye is not on the cows. I don't even care about them. It shows. I've never bought any book about how to raise cows. I've never read a book about that. I've not watched any videos about. Cows. I'm just keeping them for fun. So a lot of pastors, you are, you are, you are just. Doing the church for fun. You have not invested in it in a way. Because if I was really I would accept the type of cows that I would get a meal, cross them, be checking to see if their cross, multiply them, mark them so many things. My eye is not on it at all, at all. So what I want you to know is that we must have our eye on the church growing and increasing and multiplying, because when the church is bigger, it's a sign of human beings who were out there at the mercy of the devil. And look at where you are here today. All of you guys stand up. All of you guys here. These guys are you students. Are you? No, no, not you. Not you. Yeah, you. Are you students. Where? What? University. Creso which countries are Zambia? Wow, if you were not in the House of God, where would you be? You are laughing. Where do you think you would be if you are not in the House of the Lord? Probably what I cannot hear Zunkards. Do Zambian men like drinking? What will you be doing? I'll be probably drinking almost every day. At your age. Yes. How old are you? I'm 28. Drinking every day. Every day, Bishop, What about this one? The same one. Sir, you'll be doing what? Drinking. Yes. More than sex. No, no, no. Sex. Drinking. What about this one? Yeah, drinking and sexting. Drinking and sexting. What about this one? Drinking and fornicating. How old are you? How old? Use the microphone please. 19/19/2020. So you'd have been drinking and fornicating, yes. And what about Alex? I think I'll be into girls a lot, yeah. Girls, wow, what about you? I. Think I'll be drinking? You think you'll be drinking? Yeah. Some are more inclined to drinking, some are more to girls. What about you? I think girls and maybe doing my assignments and medication. Doing my what? Assignments in school and girls? Wow. The average man would take hundred women to bed but one to the altar. Take one woman to the altar and hundred women to the bed. Well, yeah, I don't know. Hundred women to the bed. That one to the altar. What a shock. Amen. OK, gentlemen, sit down. Thank you. Thank God for his mercies. Thank God for his love.