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02. Keys To Coming Out Of Obscurity 2
Bishop Dag Heward-MillsAbout this sermon
Camp Title - Coming Out Of Obscurity. Machaneh Collection - 54. Preached in 2008, Ghana (Elmina). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.
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Welcome to track #2 of coming out of obscurity. It's not his words. At all, and he's just Christian jargon. Recently, he even had a party. And so it was unbelievable music. And unbelievable, whatever that he was playing and dancing with it and so. It's not his words. That's not how he really it's. Just that because he was a gospel group. And he had to sing. A gospel, so he. Made it gospel. Or it's a Christian that is like it's more of this worldly side that is more natural to have a party flowing. Unbelievers, whatever you dance, whatever it's, that's how, That's how the person is. They've made a wild Christian song to add it to. Songs. That are of a certain level that it's only. If you have this. Seminar. At a certain level, you realize that this song somehow is not working. Are you there? There is a point that I'm making. When the thing. Is not in your heart and. You will not even have power to. Preach the people to make them pay tithe. They will not pay tithe every I'm. Look, I'm sharing with you. Keys to become, to come out of the obscurity and out of the hole where your churches. And where your ministry is? Is you have to pay t
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Welcome to track #2 of coming out of obscurity. It's not his words. At all, and he's just Christian jargon. Recently, he even had a party. And so it was unbelievable music. And unbelievable, whatever that he was playing and dancing with it and so. It's not his words. That's not how he really it's. Just that because he was a gospel group. And he had to sing. A gospel, so he. Made it gospel. Or it's a Christian that is like it's more of this worldly side that is more natural to have a party flowing. Unbelievers, whatever you dance, whatever it's, that's how, That's how the person is. They've made a wild Christian song to add it to. Songs. That are of a certain level that it's only. If you have this. Seminar. At a certain level, you realize that this song somehow is not working. Are you there? There is a point that I'm making. When the thing. Is not in your heart and. You will not even have power to. Preach the people to make them pay tithe. They will not pay tithe every I'm. Look, I'm sharing with you. Keys to become, to come out of the obscurity and out of the hole where your churches. And where your ministry is? Is you have to pay that so as to empower you in truth to minister about tithes, yes. That's, I mean, apart from any other reason. It's one of the reasons you have no power to speak about it. Are you listening to me? How many understand what I'm talking about? Yeah, because. It's not coming from. Your heart, I mean, you're just saying things. The Bible says this. Look, I tell you today, if you don't pay your tether, there's no power in it. The real. Power is gone because yourself, you don't pay. Tithes. Your wife doesn't pay tithes whatever doesn't pay. That's why I can. Talk about full time ministry. Because I'm in full time ministry and my wife is in full time ministry. I've brought my whole. Family, I dedicate my children to ministry, anything that I have. I give it to the Lord ministry. I've not held back anything. That's why I can talk with strength. There are things that I preach about some of. You cannot preach about that with that strength. Yeah, so sometimes God gives you an act to perform to empower you. To be able to have a certain message. Yeah, power. When you pay tithe from your business, from your life, from everything type, type is the foundation. And that was the Abraham pay tithe not under the law he paid. He believed. And he paid tithe. And and of all and the next chapter said he became very rich. All over the church where? We go, we see the churches, they are not always. Andy, remember when I came to your church, you were surprised that the church could provide money, isn't it? And stand up. And many of them were not. Paying tights, isn't it? I said. It takes your power. So your church is powerless. You are. You are unable to move. You are unable to build. You are unable to do that. I said that it's a key to coming out of the hole. It's to pay tight so that you have power to induce tithe giving in your congregation. Of everything. Why have you paid your tithe? You have to pay your tithe. Have you paid your tithe of this small amount? Write it down. Pay the tithe. It gives the power. Yeah, that's why most. Pastors, let me tell you something. If you send your children away from the ministry, what power are you left with to mobilize young people in the congregation to go and die on a field? Hey, you've lost the power because. Don't you? It's just not you. It's just simply not you. That's why I said when we talk about believing things, you believe things to a certain extent. Yeah, so tithe giving is one of the major keys, and you see it in Abraham's life. You see what you see here? It's the key that brought a person who whose name is. I even have a nephew called. Abraham, my sister's son, is called Abraham. Anywhere Kamali, there is Abraham. His name is great. Ibrahim is also Abraham. I didn't know that. Yeah. Ibrahim, what do you think? How many are realizing that I'm giving you a key? Yeah, very wild key look. Let me let let let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Yeah. Sit down. I went to a church to preach. I've never seen such a church before now. OK, so the second. Is you. Pay tithe and then the second thing is your wife and your church, everybody to pay tithe except. Power. I will make you very great. So you pay tithe everybody in your world. To pay tithe, make them pay tithe. But I first addressed the thing that removes your power to pay tithe, to get people to pay tithe. Listen to this one. I went to preach somewhere and when I went to preach, right? No, don't worry, it's OK. I won't come there again. When I went to preach there, I was preaching there for four days. They didn't take any offerings. No offering, no offering, no offering. The pastor just smiled at me. He said don't worry, I wanted to sell my books. Or if I said don't sell books here you don't like, if pastors come here to do whatever and so on, it would affect even what they will give you. I said what is that? I finished preaching. The pastor told me that our church. 1995 to. 99% everybody there pays tithes, he mentioned some figure 90 something percent of everybody there pays tithes. You don't have to bother struggle with offerings. They didn't take offerings. It's only Sunday. They took their tithes or whatever, and then after they've taken time, they said, now I want to bless this person. I've never seen anything like that before. Oh, yeah, In one offering, I could buy a house. The value of a house A. Church and the church. Is not very. So very big. In one offering I could buy a house Yeah meant is something they pay tithe and it talks. All these people have said they want to give this money to so they will bring it this and they all put. Yes, a check. Which has been. Induced and trained in. Tithe. It's a wild. Church see if. We can get the Kodesh Church to become tithe. Payers. We can be on television daily. In our churches. Only 20. Percent of our people pay tithes. Only 20% of our people pay tithes. True or not true. Yeah. And then the pastor also doesn't pay tithes. And the whole, the whole thing has gone down the Bush. But I'm saying that I've seen when you go to young, you choose church. You see the tithing thing. Cards for everybody of the seven. 100,000 everybody has a card come and pay tithes maybe stop a small thing so me I'm I'm giving you a key I'm just. Telling you because when you. Make it, you. Make it for yourself. When there's money in your church, remember you're the one going to use it. You go make your church nice. Get yourself a car. Travel abroad, Go here, visit other. Churches invite ministers, hold conventions, do whatever. If you make it, you make it for yourself. That's it. You're professionals and I'm giving you a key. The key is. It sounds as simple as. ABC Does it not sound simple as ABC? Wow. But I tell you, if you can go and think about what I'm saying, we can go. Home now, Yeah, We can go home now. We can go home now. Because, and now you see, whenever, let me, let me show you something, whenever you meet somebody who doesn't want to listen to you, let me show you a key to make the person listen to you. People follow someone. Who can teach them if you can teach them? I don't mean shout at them. I don't mean frighten them. I don't mean make them. Scared. If you can teach people, you can control them. If you can learn how to teach about tithes and about giving, give. And that's what the people who believe in prosperity and so on. I mean, that's what they've done. I mean, they've thought that people are telling the amount of money people give. See, I think we should get into some financial revelations to bring us out of obscurity. What do you think? Yeah, you don't have to have a big. It's like huge. No, just you see the people there like that. I couldn't. I could not believe. My eyes or my ears, they don't take off friends they sold our. People's tight and a lot of them, they're all staff members, they're all the school, our people, all of them pay tax. They even know. They know how much they're expecting. It's like a business. Are you there all right? Now that's mine. You know, I want to pray that God will touch your heart to really believe what we are saying. But Charlie, your life depends on it now. Yeah, and at the where we've reached. Did you see what I'm saying? Your life depends on it. I went to a certain church. They had made a banner several places I saw they have 100%. This is 100% tithe paying church. Everybody here pays tithe at the Long's Church in Britain, 100% tithe paying church as you walk through the corridors, see the money thing is the Britain the money thing is there. You know, you see that here financial controls are here of Kevin. Hey. So when you have your small congregation and you can. Teach them the concept of tithing even in. What do you call it? Farm farming? Bring your Youngs, bring your. Tomatoes bring your cows, bring your goats, and you teach even from Abrams flocks and heads and Isaac and Jacob. There are years of teachings. I see the power is gone when you don't have the power. What do you think? Yeah. And and you see. You yourself have to. Obey it because yourself will be poor and you have to pay ties. It's an experience. You have to have, well, you don't have much and you pay ties. If you haven't had that experience, you have not. Experienced Christianity. And that's the experience of everybody. Everybody starts paying ties. When he doesn't have anything, he'll grow and have more. Money and pay, bigger and bigger and bigger ties. Oh, you don't understand my message? Yeah. Your brothers and sisters. Let us have. 100% high paying church. I'll open the windows of heaven. I'll pour out all those verses. They are there. And if all of us go? Back and say I'm. Giving you obscurity coming out of obscurity keys. I've given you only three. I have 31 and I have warfare keys, leadership keys, and other keys. But these are. Coming out of obscurity, keys, if you can be, just take these 3 keys, you are OK. That's what I feel. How many think. So that's what I think. OK, now #4 long prayers, long hours of prayer. You see, you are professionals, are you not professionals? What is your work, ministry, Ministry. And especially if you are out there, you don't have much of an office and much office work. Don't imagine things that are not true. There's no office. Don't say there's an office. There's nothing. It's just you and you don't even need an office. I don't need any of those things. All. These people you see working in the offices and so on are there even my office I had to at first I thought, you know, I must have a desk so the first office I had, I went and got a big desk because the first time I went to Archbishop's office, I tell you the desk, the. Desk is from here to hear like this. And then it goes. Round like this round. Over here. So when you sit, you'll be like somewhere here. Where Julian is, and he was sitting somewhere here. The time I went to his office to give him an offering of 10 CDs or 10,000 or 1000, whatever it was, I was sitting, he was sitting there was in the big office, he was looking at me that this is ministry. So when I also had a. Chance I got a big. Desk. And I had my chair behind my desk because. This. I knew that it you need a desk and you sit for meetings. They come bored meetings, they sit on the side and you sit behind. That's what I thought, yeah. But one day I came to. Realize that look, there is nothing that I do behind the desk. Nothing at all. I don't write anything, I don't send any checks, I don't write anything. There's nothing that I. Do in my life. Behind the desk at. All so I decided that. I have to accept. Who I am that I am a. Shepherd. My working clothes are. Boots I used to walk. Through swamps and I used to walk through forest to find sheep. And fight with. Lions and I come back with wounds, bleeding. That's my work. I. Don't have a desk? Do pilots have desks? I don't have a desk. Your office is the. Cabin where you fly from. Do you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. So you, your work is to pray. Now we have about three or four types of long prayers. Three hours prayer is the first one. You understand 3 hours prayer. I'm not going to force you to pray because the financial implications of your own prayerlessness and powerlessness will exalt you. So I feel free as I'm preaching. I feel that I don't have to. Press too hard. Yes, I don't have to press too hard, push, pray. I don't know what you are right, but the first one is 3 hours prayer, the next one is. Five hours prayer. The next one is 7 hours prayer and the next one is 12 hours 12 hours. When you start at six, you end at six. Now as a professional, you get it. You must be able to pray without sending a text, answering calls, attending to things, and you must be able to be there for long hours. You must know how to pray in different ways. All these things are in the books, kneeling and praying. You have to know how to lie down like this. And pray like that. And pray come by. And not sleep. And not watch CNN. Kabaya baaya mambaya kababaya. Help me Lord, I was lying on my blue carpet in Panorama Hotel when the Lord said keep thyself holy. I remember I was The carpet is blue. Do you remember the carpet blue? I was lying. It was smelly, but I was lying on it and he said to me give yourself holy from now to the ministry 20 times that he radically changed my direction. I was lying on that capital Yeah keep watching keep watching. It works. I'm. Giving you these keys. So when I came to a missionary and asked what do you do? During the day, you understand and you find out that you tell me. I watch movies confidently, you see. I watch movies. Now. I watch. I watch movies. This weekend I watch Rambo. Four. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just it's just an interesting, it captivates you till. Till the film is over. I'm not saying I don't watch any film. Occasionally I watch a film I don't spend. My life watching films, Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday to Friday, watching films, movies. It shows that you've not understood the ministry at all. And I don't want to go and collect money and send to you again, and I won't send any money to you again. I would. What do you think? Oh, you don't understand what I'm saying, But I think you can become very powerful. A person who prays for a long time. There is some aura. You read it in the transform book. Are you there? I remember when Prophet Khakra became full time, he used to just stay in the house. What do you do? What do you do in the house? Yeah, just in the house. Just staying in the house. You always see the difference in the ministry that that comes from that person, from this thing. Just the house. Yeah. Just you have to be in the house. You have to be in the house. When we even have building projects and all, it becomes a disturbance to a real minister. Yeah, I even sent my administrator once to him. He didn't come out of the room. You know how Neiman the Syrian came to see Elisha? He didn't come out. He said tell him to go back the River Jordan. When Alice got there, he didn't come out of there. He said tell her to go to manpower. Do you understand If you are not like that, you haven't graduated to that. That is where that concept of thinking shots, you know, thinking shots, it's something that you wear in the house. Is your house operational uniform? Yeah, you see. And then you. Wear and you are just. Room, you are just. There, it's a house dress and you are just moving out. Learn it, learn it, learn it, learn it. You'll be different, I'm telling you. You will see that you see and now there must be a difference between a full time person and a lay pastor, even in the. Type of church the size of the church the. Income of the Church at. A point we should clearly see when we put full time pastors, churches and lay pastors. Oh. You should be able to see that child in ministry there. It's something that and only full time. Only full time. Unless you're full time, you cannot take the thing seriously. Do you understand what I'm saying? That's what that's what we have to see. We have to see that difference clearly, that it's your profession and so far the. Church we have has been built by lay people 90. Percent of the church. Even the income and everything is the product of lay. People's efforts. See. But as the years go by, something that someone. Takes as a profession and something that someone. Does at weekends. I mean, we should see. What does he say? Give thyself. Holy, that thy profiting. May appear to all. And that's what the Lord told me, so you know my greatest. Thing that I was looking for in the ministry was. Always the sign. Of my profiting, is it worth it? Is it worth it? So when I started to travel a bit to Geneva, started church, and so I used to think of it as OK, If I was working at Colaba, I couldn't have come to this place. And few things I began to see that, well, I couldn't have done this. If I was working here, I couldn't have done this. If I was working here, I couldn't have done so. Then gradually I started to see the. Improvement in the Ministry from 1990 from 19/19/91 first January. I started to see the gradual. Improvements in the ministry. That's what we are expecting. To see but you. Can't get it by watching movies. Now let me talk about watching of movies. It was surprising to know that. It has been a symptom that I have seen. In ministers for years and it's. Something that sometimes. I notice I said this person just films Nigerian. Anybody who likes good, What is that? Those people. Those. Bad people that used to come on there, good, good and good and beautiful. Nigerian films, sunset, whatever. Usually that person is not being led by the spirit. You can sense the person is not flowing with the Spirit. Oprah Winfrey, people who like Oprah, all those. People, usually they are not. Of a certain. Spiritual level. It's something that I've. Noticed just as by noticing. Not something I've seen in the Bible, you know, but when you read the Bible it says. As many as are LED. Let me show you go to Romans. Have you found it? Verse 12, Eight chapter 8. Verse 12. So then, brethren, we are under obligation not to the flesh to live according to what? Verse 13. For if you are. Living according to the flesh you must die, but if this by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body. For all who are being. Led by the Spirit, these are the sons of God now. Notice that this favorite. Verse of ours is. Actually associated with the flesh is actually showing us. We use it for something else. But it's actually showing us the contrast. Between somebody. Who follows the Spirit and how? He doesn't follow the flesh. He doesn't. Fulfill works of the flesh. Any time being led. By the Spirit is talked about. The primary things you see. Is that a person is not following flesh, that person is under the. Influence of the Spirit. And another amazing place where this word as. Many as are led. By the Spirit is is found in the. Same context in Galatians. Where he talks about the works of the flesh just before he talks about the works of he says, as many as are led by the spirit. Let's go and look at it. Galatians, Have you found Galatians of the five? Verse 16 says, But I say, what by the Spirit do you not carry out the desire of the flesh? For the flesh sets his desire against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh for these idle position, so that you may not do the things that you please. Now look that there's 18 if you are led by the Spirit. The exact same phrase if you are led by the Spirit. You are not under the law. Then it goes on. Now the deeds of the flesh are evident. You see, it's connected to the. Deeds of the flesh so as soon as you are being led by the. Spirit The. Deeds of the flesh. Fall out. Of your life, they start changing because the Spirit leads you. Away from those things. And what are those things you see them? Immorality, Impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, and it is now strife. You see strife issue the strife in your dialysis. You are not being led by the Spirit. Most of the time when you were having a lot of strife in your dialysis, if the Spirit was leading, you would have led you away from the strife. It's the direction of the Spirit. That you failed to. Catch. You would have gone around it. It's when we are flying a plane. They. They would. They would say that there's turbulence. Ahead. So we are making a detour, then they turn left, you see, they just go around it and then they will say what we are seeing. We don't want to pass through, so we're going round the storm. Yeah, we are LED. You'll be LED just as you'll be LED away from a strange. One by the Spirit. LED away from fornication. The Spirit's always leading you away from impurities and all these things. The Spirit also leads you away from strife. Confusion. I'm happy. To get the. Strife of this person. I can see a spirit leading me in another direction. Yeah, I can say the Spirit leading me in another. Direction away from this. Confusion. Quarrel with someone. Strive with your wife, strive with your life. To the left please. To the way to the way to the left. One time and. He's leading you away from enmities and. You have an enemy, an enemy in the church, an enemy where. Which person is this? The Spirit hasn't LED you as many as are led by the Spirit. They find themselves going in that direction all. Together from the flesh. Yeah, how do you have an enemy? Jealousy out Best of. Anger. Disputes. Disputes this you ask yourself. Issue a meeting for 7/10 hours with disputes you think the spirit LED. You for such a. Meeting distinction and confusion. You have to sack such people straight away. Do you understand? But the Spirit is not leading the church into conflict. There are some people who have to say, look, you either you go or I go, yeah. Because we're going to have confusion. Disputes factions, you know, and you say again. If you are led by the Spirit, if you are led by the Spirit, you find yourself circumventing these flesh things so you can go and study it for yourself and you get a revelation of how being led by the Spirit takes you away from certain things. He will lead you. See this strife? No, you see this? Issue No. You see this one, I'm going this other way, this impurities. So when you see people. Who are just giving? Themselves to Nigerian film of corruption, murder, last betrayal, witchcraft and was so going towards that for ministrations for hours. Usually that person does something. But these things, you can watch it. Limited and it affects you. Like bold and beautiful. It teaches you about adultery. Yeah, You should sleep with this. You should sleep with this. You should sleep with this sleep. With that, sleep with. Everybody. Yeah, it teaches you bad things. Clearly the Nigerian film is bringing armed robbery to Ghana, teaching how to do armed robbery, carry guns, run here, do this. That's why we're having more and more and more armed robbery in Ghana. Do you see? So. Long ago I used to see that. That was something when I see somebody's watching a lot of. Films. There's this doesn't. There's something not correct about the person's spiritual. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, but the Spirit will lead you. One day I was. Watching a film, The law said. The film you're. Watching with your eyes, Is it these eyes? You want to see visions with I couldn't watch a film. For a long. Time after that? Are you there? All right. So long prayers, huh? Yeah. Kachale is your profession. 3 hours is nothing for you. What is 3 hours? How many agree with me that three hours is not? Five hours. 7 hours. 7 hours. Is just 4:50, 4:50. Most of the time. When you speak, there will be a. Certain whatever about it. And as you are listening to tape fibration, reading the Bible, praying and. Oh, you know your profiting will. Appear people will start also what is. What is what? What is in that place? And as I say, it's like you have you have got something there. Do you know that? Actually my profiting has increased to the point where I realized that even sometimes when people come who left me Ghana years ago and they come, I realized that they are having a problem with the blessing that they see. Yeah, we have a problem. I don't get what I'm saying. It's like why should you prosper here? Why we went abroad to Quen struggle to get. This is the first time we have been able to come back in nine years when we can. We've seen that you have all that we went to look for, which we didn't get, and we are owing and you are not owing. Are you there? All right, So these are powerful keys, and I believe that God will bless you. Let me give you the last key for now, and then we'll take a break. The key of sacrifice. I wonder whether I should really talk about that. But when you sacrifice, you get it. You, you will always benefit from it. Amen. Nothing moves without sacrifice. There's always going to be sacrifice. Somebody somewhere is going to pay. And if you are enjoying something that you didn't sacrifice for, it means somebody sacrifice for you to enjoy. That's how it is. And until you sacrifice, you may never move from the place you are. You see, like you stand up this boy Chris, where is he has sacrificed for you to be in Uganda today. He starts to pay the price. You don't even know the price is paid that you are enjoying now. So you may think that ministry doesn't involve sacrifice because by the grace of God, I just came from London. I flew tickets to a boat. Did you buy the tickets yourself to go to Uganda? It was bought. And your wife? It was also bought, sent. Did you rent the house? It was rented when you got there? It was rented. It was a car. Did you buy a car? There was a car there. There was everything there. Do you have a car now? Do you have a car? There was a car, everything. Somebody, somebody, somewhere has made price, paid, taken, offering, done things. You are there. Somebody paid off, Somebody's gone. There live in somebody. 'S boys quarters. Live in. Somebody's house had. Conflict with different people. Forced to buy the land. Do this, do this, do this. So you may think. It's a division. That ministry is something that we just flow by setting strategic obediences and setting wisdoms that I had. I entered into my rest for you to move on. What we haven't yet seen in Uganda, there's a big. Price to pay big. Very high price and unless. Somebody pick up movement is like the wheel of movement, the wheels. Is the wheels are sacrifice, Rejoinder said something he said that the. Church never. It's in this book Shadows of Things. Look at the beginning of one of the chapters. He said that the church only advances when there is sacrifice. The only time a church advances when there is sacrifice. That's what he said. Church advance only on. What do you think? So all of you inheritance. Of people's churches. Pastor Brian you are inheriting prophets sacrifice when he was using photocopier to live, you know that use a photocopier to whilst we were working at Guinness he was making photocopies and selling. Yes this is not true. Stand up as a Brian. You have also inherited do. You understand? Yeah. But you see that that Church can never move forward unless there is a further sacrifice. But it's not only the. Sacrifice of Christ, but he said. Now you take up your cross. You do you have a cross. So that is not only me to. Take up a cross or Jesus to take up a cross, you have a cross. All of us have crosses. That's why we all wear crosses.