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01. Called to Suffer 1

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
March 22, 2026 54m 58s

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GTWC Title - The Road To Calvary Collection - 95 Preached in Accra, Ghana. Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.

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Welcome to track number one of the Road to Calvary. Hallelujah, let's pray. Father, we thank you so much for this evening. Thank you for your blessing as we come before your word and Lord, as we come nearer to you today, to your word, to humble ourselves before you. And I pray, Lord, that you gave us the humility to receive what you have for us. Thank you for your blessing, for our churches, for our ministries, for the future, for the years ahead. Thank you, Lord. Lord, I pray that it will not be wasted time, but your blessing will be apparent upon us as we walk out of this conference. In Jesus name, Amen. You may be seated. Hallelujah. Well, we are all welcome here. I want to welcome you all to this conference. Amen. I don't know many of you, but I believe I'm I will get to know some of us as we go along. It is an honor for me to to preach to you. Amen. And I want to thank you for coming to honor this conference with your presence. And I pray that the Lord will bless us all in this time. And I believe that you, you will have a sudden impartation. Jesus said the word that I speak to you. They are Spirit and life. So when the word comes i

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Welcome to track number one of the Road to Calvary. Hallelujah, let's pray. Father, we thank you so much for this evening. Thank you for your blessing as we come before your word and Lord, as we come nearer to you today, to your word, to humble ourselves before you. And I pray, Lord, that you gave us the humility to receive what you have for us. Thank you for your blessing, for our churches, for our ministries, for the future, for the years ahead. Thank you, Lord. Lord, I pray that it will not be wasted time, but your blessing will be apparent upon us as we walk out of this conference. In Jesus name, Amen. You may be seated. Hallelujah. Well, we are all welcome here. I want to welcome you all to this conference. Amen. I don't know many of you, but I believe I'm I will get to know some of us as we go along. It is an honor for me to to preach to you. Amen. And I want to thank you for coming to honor this conference with your presence. And I pray that the Lord will bless us all in this time. And I believe that you, you will have a sudden impartation. Jesus said the word that I speak to you. They are Spirit and life. So when the word comes into you, the Spirit is coming into you and the Spirit is what we need in the ministry. Hallelujah. The ministry is a very difficult thing to do. It is a battle. And unlike, let's say you're training to become a doctor, where we have some good medical schools, we don't. Usually have good schools. For ministry, one of the one of the reasons is that you cannot really learn the ministry in school because when you come out of the school, almost everything that you learnt doesn't work. You see almost everything you've learnt and everything you know doesn't work and it is as you go along that you open your heart to the things of the Lord and you, you are ready to continue learning, that you really begin to learn how to work with the Lord and how to be a minister. I, I don't think anybody, no matter how many years you spent in the school, three years, two years, five years, you will never know ministry until you are actually in the ministry. Then when you hear certain things you find out that they now make a lot of meaning to you. So that is why we are having this programme. And then I believe that as we stay on and we stay in the presence of the Lord, we are going to experience more blessings and revelation for our lives. Hallelujah. Now, the theme for our conference is the cross. Amen. The cross and the ministry. I believe that the church, you know, has become a little, we are a little affected by the side effects of the prosperity message. You see, everything has a side effect, even paracetamol. If you take too much, it will spoil your liver and you will start to get jaundice and you start to get other problems. And before you realize you are dying from it. If you take too much of chloroquine, there are if you'll be surprised at what chloroquine can do to you. If you take too much of almost any medicine, there is a side effect. What that's good to you in this dose will kill you when it is more so the prosperity message, which is good for us, you get it at a certain dose. After some years of overdose of prosperity message, you get it. We begin to start to die from the same message. Are you listening to me now? The prosperity message came about because we had an overdose of this cross message. This is the message that brought us the need for the prosperity message. You get it. Because people were so sacrificial and heavily minded that we were not practical anymore. So we needed prosperity teachers like Kenneth Hagin Avanzini, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, and those who we know in the world, you know, Bishop Duncan Williams and all these other churches to come. Up and really. Show us that the church is not made-up of just poor people, that we can also be rich in the church, and that to be rich is not a sin. And there's nothing wrong with having a car or a house and all these things and that we meet practical prosperity for our lives today and. People were so. Heavenly minded and sacrificial in their thinking that it's like, oh, I don't need anything on this earth. I'll leave my school, I'll leave my job, I'll leave everything. I'll come and serve the Lord. Then the prosperity message came there, the prosperity message too. It's become so strong that it's like to prosper and to succeed has become the main thing in the church, so that the church is now what do you call it? Almost a success seminar, a permanent Sunday success seminar almost every time. If you watch, you listen to us pastors preaching. If you like, watch the television. Pastors are teaching and motivating people how to succeed, how to make it, how to breakthrough domination, dominion, what breakthrough expansion. I mean, what have you increase? And if you see the the tickets on our past year, my year of my year of what abundance, my year of what increase, My year of dominion, my year of breakthrough explosion, supernatural, I mean year of. But you don't hear my ear of the cross. My year of dying for God. My year of losing something for God. You get it. And. Then you see one of the things when you say success. One of the As soon as you say success, you just have certain images that pass through your mind when you say somebody's successful. He's a very successful person or success. Certain things flash through. Your mind like a video. You see a shiny car, you see a young person who didn't grow very old before he became rich. Isn't it? You see an easy. Life, you see. Somebody flying here and there and there are certain things we associate with the web success and one of the things we associate with it are speed, fastness of things, working out. Things work out quickly, faster than it usually takes to work out. So with that in mind, and also another thing that occurs to us. Is that there is no pain. You see breakthrough without sweat. Dominion is is when you are experiencing. Dominion is the one who is under you, who suffer by. You that are exercising the dominion, you don't suffer. So the mind is that I will never suffer. You get it because I have dominion. I I have this is the victory that overcomes the world, even our faith. You get it. We are. More than Congress in. Crisis. So I am the Conqueror, and others under me are the conquered ones. You get it. But after we've preached this for some time and I've been emphasizing it for some time, it has brought up two big things. One is that we have not conquered much. True. We have noticed that the people in our churches are not changing. We, the pastors are not changing, and the people we are preaching to have not changed. In fact, if somebody tells you I go to Lighthouse. And so he's honest. You know that it cannot be. You cannot. Guarantee that it's only because it goes to Lighthouse, or because it goes to Central, or because it goes to Winners. Chapel is it is equally is equally likely to be a cook as anybody who says I'm a supporter of House of Hoco or Kotaku. Yeah. In fact, saying that you belong to a church today is like saying I support a soccer team, I support House of Hoco as a Kotaku supporter. There's almost no difference. Even sometimes the person is more suspicious. Are you listening to me? And so you realize that our messages have now lost the power to transform the lives of people. We don't have power. Anymore you have people falling down and so. A lot of falling down happens because the people. Want to fall down? I'm not against falling down. I I fall down. People a lot. But I want you to know that a lot of people fall. Down because they want to fall down, but. That is not power. Because if you fall down and when you. Get up, you are as bad as you have ever. Been since you were. Born you're bad as you've ever. Been before and I want you to know that. You. We. Are not actually experiencing power, Amen. Because people are not really changing, Amen. Are you listening to me? So we need to experience power in our church, and we have. Lost the power. Oh yes, all our churches, even the names we have given to our churches are showing that we are prosperity. Breakthrough overcoming dominion minded churches. Are you listening to me? And so it's very, very, very important that all of us understand. So we have lost the power which we don't even realize that we don't have power to change the people and also. What has happened? Is that there is a certain feeling that everything is going to be easy, so much so that there is an unspoken message. And this is the unspoken message. Jesus Christ suffered for us so that we will not suffer again. Is it not true? How many, how many realize that that message is Jesus suffered for us so that we will not suffer. He became poor so that we will be rich. It's like he has experienced every bad thing for us. But ladies and gentlemen, that is a big delusion. You see, deception is there, then delusion is an advanced. Form of deception. So whenever you hear me using the word delusion, then I'm talking about an advanced form of deception, because a delusion is something that you believe in. Spite of contrary evidence, let's say they are. Showing you, and that is one of the symptoms of madness. You know what what there there are different types of mental illness, depression, psychosis, whatever. But when you begin to get into real mental illness madness, we begin to have what we call delusions, paranoid delusions, things that you are afraid of, that you believe. In spite of the fact that they tell you so. For instance, one time I was in the mental, I was in the mental hospital. There was this man who believed that he was working for the government as a spy or as a senior agent, doing some secret. Service. So he was explaining certain things at the Cup and he's a madman sitting loss, but he cannot see. I said, Oh yeah, this what he does here, he moves here he does this is that says to me that you are explaining to you, you are a patient. No, no, no, I'm not a patient. I work for the Security Service and policeman. I do this, I do that. Oh, you are in the. Metal. So I'm not in the metal. I'm in the castle. I'm somewhere based on the castle. I just seen the castle looking like this. Look at the couch, look at the beds. Do I know? No, no, no, no, no. No, I'm in the castle. I'm working. So that is a delusion. You believe something even when the opposite is being shown to you. And you find out that when we have a church where the opposite is being shown to us and yet we believe something else, then we are suffering from delusions. And a large part of the church is deluded and deceived. And one of the delusions is that Jesus Christ has suffered for us so that we will not suffer again. But there cannot be anything more erroneous than that, because Jesus Christ said, take up your cross and follow me. And I believe that the cross of Jesus Christ is the emblem of the shame and of the sufferings that are part of Christianity and more so a part of ministry. There is no ministry without the cross and without suffering. The ministry is not another job. If you are looking for a job, look, see me after church. I will help you to get a job. You show me what you can do. I know somebody who is employing a lot of people at Tema. I can get a job for you at the harbor at least I know. I know that there are jobs there and I also have somebody who is employing people at another harbor, Integrity. So if you need a job, I can get you a job. It will probably pay you better than struggling in the ministry to as if it's a job. It's not a job. The ministry is total job. Jesus was not an employee of anybody. He had a job before as a Carpenter, but he gave up everything and he followed his Lord. Hallelujah. So I believe with with all my heart that it is important for us to come back. Oh, I want to say it's a sad thing. You see, there's some years. Ago, if we met a sister and they tell us that this sister is in SU, immediately we know that she's a virgin. She hasn't slept with anybody before, at least when I was in secondary school. Today, if you say somebody is in Lighthouse or somebody is in Central or somebody is in action or somebody is in Winner's Chapel and she's not married immediately, for me, the thought that goes to her mind is multiple partners that she has had up till now. Plus abortions, plus. We need to. Do HIV tests if you like. Don't do HIV and. Marry I met a certain lady. She was telling me that her son had gotten married to this sister and her son was a pastor. She said after a few months after they got married, the wife developed diarrhea. I said she went to the hospital when they take HIV fully. Mother pastor was fully married to the HIV sister, just running stomach throughout. She lost all the weight and she died. Buried her after she was buried they checked the this is a real person. They checked the pasta. He also had positive sooner than later who he also started a running stomach fully till he also that she told me my son is dead because he married a girl who was HIV positive and my son in the church. Where? Where will you marry? In the church? So I hope you are getting what I'm saying. Sometimes you're going to say somebody is a Baptist. It means that he's like a Bible. He has Bible verses. I mean, he's a serious kind of person, you know, who does Bible studies and things like that. If you say somebody is Assemblies of God, then you have a certain mind that this is a serious kind of Christian or whatever. And you see a brother who is a leader of Scripture union. He is also a virgin. He fast and prays a lot. He doesn't do so anything. But today this is a pastor of International Angels Assemblies of whatever. Diocese Church, you don't know whether he sleeps with the people in the church. You don't know whether he has a child here, he has a child there. So that's what I'm trying to say, that that what it is, what we are producing. We can blame nobody but ourselves. We can only look at ourselves and see that the Church seems to have lost the power to change people. I tell you, with all our prosperity messages and with all our cars and with all the things we have, the power to really change people has gone and the power to change ourselves has gone. We have not changed anymore. I tell you, you know, somebody has been said. Can you imagine if I send a pasta and I send you to go to Zambia or I send you to go to Tanzania? I have sent somebody to Tanzania. Now the person is there. Supposing the person later tells me when we have spent a lot of money to build a church there and so on, an effort that now that church in Tanzania, I shouldn't come there at all. But I don't pay Social Security and I don't do this and I don't, so I shouldn't come there. What is that? And then you have to church, which are now fighting to the point that IGP, police and president have to come in. The Bible says let. Nothing be done through strife or vain glory, but in. Loneliness of mind, each esteeming the other better than themselves. But that is not what we have in the charismatic church. Charismatic church. It's like if you bring One day I was with a charismatic pastor, he said to me if he was talking about somebody slapping, said. He said if Muslims slap you, we don't tell her that we. He said to me, if Muslims slap you, you don't tell another cheek. You cut off the hand. It's like we are, we are, we are different from Jesus said if they slap you on your right, you tell the other cheeks. That's what Jesus said, that's also what Saviour said. But we don't believe in suffering, we believe in making others suffer or whatever it is that we are. So that's fucking suffer. A man of dominion, a man of faith, a man of blessing. And then we also use money to see whether we are called money and cars. I used to assess ministry, if you have So pastors use money to determine whether they are doing well. The Bible says in the last days some will come. Supposing that gain is godliness, financial gain is godliness. In the last days some people will come and they will suppose that gain is the same as godliness, that godliness ought to be godly, ought to be high spiritually, is to have gain. And when you see that his car is nice, and when you see that he has money, then you know that, yeah, God is with him. And we use that as our testimony. Most testimonies are about money in the church, not in the bank, in the church. Most testimonies are about money in the church. And you really wonder what is wrong with us? We. Are the most money minded people. That is why today banks Co pastors to preach in the bank. Last week I was invited by a bank to preach. Can you imagine it? I was invited to come and preach in a bank, not at a crusade, at a bank, and I was having a crusade. And I almost cancelled the last day of the crusade for them. And something told me before the crusade that if I cancel the meeting because it was the time was very close, I will regret it for the rest of my life. So before the program I called, I said, you know if I cancel this program because of a bank that I'm going to speak ice, I will feel very sad for the rest of my life. Said no matter what time they should sing songs and praises till whatever time I will get there. Because I have to pass through Kaswa traffic to Buddhuburam before I pass through Makati Hill and Sampa and the barrier, the barrier, there's a policeman standing there just to give traffic shining torch like that. Have you seen that guy before? I said something will pain me. But you see, we call it the crossover appeal. There are various, you see, there is whatever in the, the pastor has a crossover appeal that is his, his, he appeals to the Christian and he appeals to the finance. Well, so it's like he's a crossover appeal. Do you understand what it's like? It's like you're a man of God with a crossover appeal. Yeah, we we want to be man of God with a. Crossover. Appeal when the God. Call us to crossover. To cross over to where? That we want to. Crossover. So even though I would go and speak. At that, I don't consider that as a promotion. Actually, I consider it as a very serious question to my integrity as to whether I am still on the right course. Oh, yeah, I'm not saying it's wrong. Don't misunderstand me. Maybe invite me again. I'll go. I mean, it shouldn't conflict with that. But the person who was introducing me said the right thing. He said that even though you are a pastor and you have made it clear that you are a preacher, the Bible says that eating the cramps, the dogs to eat the cramps. So we beg you for some of the cramps. I said OK, I'll give you some cramps. So I gave some cramps to the bank. Amen. Are you listening to me? How come? We are so. Different. If if Muslims slap you. You don't turn under, he said. Don't turn under. No, no, no, no. Christian, charismatic, but perhaps the SU are the. Baptist, I don't think they would have talked that way. So you see, we've changed. And people are not. Really changing, and it's likely that our churches are full of unsaved people who are traditionally charismatic Christians because we all want a church. So I believe that we need to come out of this delusion and that through this time that we are going to be here. Because I know that you are going to be surprised at what is in this cross. What is going to come out. You see one of the things that will come out is that when you walk on the road of the cross, you see the loyal people and the disloyal because it was through the cross issue that we saw who is Judas, who is Peter, who is Mary Magdalene and all the people in the church. The reason why you can't see some of the people clearly in your churches is because we are not working on a certain Rd. When you begin to walk on a certain Rd. you will be. They would, they would identify themselves suddenly. So when we get there, you understand what I'm talking about. But I'm just trying to give you an introduction to what we are talking about. We are talking about the cross. I said we are talking about the cross. We are talking about the message of sacrifice. You are not a Christian preacher without Christian sacrifice and without the cross. These songs that were sung are not false songs. We are false. We have to change and come back to the original gospel of Jesus Christ and come back to the way that God has determined for us. Are you ready for the cross? Do you want the cross of Jesus Christ? Yeah, Paul said that for the preaching of the gospel is foolishness. But unto us. The preaching of the cross is the power. The power to change is the preaching of the cross. That is why there is no power in the church, because the preaching of the cross is the power of God to us, which I say, the preaching of the cross is the power is this in the Bible. Our glory, our future, our reward is from this cross and from the sacrifices that we make for God. And it is because we are running from the cross. I have a message called running from the cross. We are running away from the cross. Instead of taking up the cross and following our Savior. We are having a completely different kind of church. And so I believe that God is bringing us back. The prospective message is not a bad message of don't be deceived. Don't go and tell anybody. Now they say prosperity message is a bad message. You are Satan if you say that Satan is using you. Prosperity message is a good message, but there is nothing in the word of God that you see standing alone. It always stands with other things. Bible says let your love abound in knowledge and in spiritual understanding. So you see strength or love is moving with knowledge and spiritual understanding and said. Follow those who through faith. And patience inherit their promises. So you see the faith is moving with patience, he said giving ordinance after your faith vets you and to vets you knowledge and to knowledge, self-control and to temperance and to this and to diligence and to love. So you see that all those things are moving together. Nothing is alone. And why is it that we have a faith movement? Where is the patience movement? Because there's faith and patience are to inherit the promise that we have faith movement. We don't have patience movement. Where is the patience movement? Faith worked by love. Where is the love movement? We have only faith. So you not all the gospel messages are connected. There's nothing that stands. So the prospective message, we need to connect it to the sacrifice message. Then we will becoming normal. And then we will be, we will be, we will be becoming normal, normal, normal. We need to return to a road, the road that Jesus took, the road of humility, the road of the cross. Hallelujah. So I'm going to give you a few scriptures just reading them out so that you will see. How? Much the cross is in the Bible. Amen. Luke 2426. It says now if you try to open. I wonder if you can no but. Listen, it says ought. Not. Christ to have suffered these. Things and to enter into His glory. Christ have to suffer in order to enter to glory. Are you not looking for glory? How many are looking for the glory? I am looking for the glory. I'm not looking for money. I'm looking to enter into glory. Why do you think I am a preacher? And I'm a. Pastor, because I am looking for the glory of God, one day I want to enter into my glory. I pray I will not be denied this glory. That is all I'm working for. But the Dennis, I don't think you let KLM so that you enter into money. No, you let so that you enter into glory fastest. That's what I'm saying to some of us, if we didn't come into the ministry for this. Right reason. Then you may have to reconsider. And opt out or try and get a job. Honestly, I'm not joking about that seriously apply and ask. Let us help through luck and other organizer I can help for you to get a job because the ministry is a serious thing. Jesus never know where this time that for anybody to come. Jesus. No, Jesus, he never lowered the standard. He never tried to let his disabled field whatever he told them you would suffer, you would pick tribulation, this trouble, whatever father against mother this and that. You think I came to bring peace? No, no, no, no at all. He would tell you the highest standard if you like him. Jesus is not lowering his standards today. He's raising the standard to the normal standard. The price for glory is the same. Do you want glory? You want the glory that Jesus had. You are going to have to follow the Jesus that we are all reading about in the Bible. Hallelujah. Listen, another verse in Acts 17, verse three. I'll read it for you. You can just make a note of it. It says opening and alleging that Christ must needs have suffered and risen again from the dead, and that this Jesus is whom I preached unto you is Christ. He said Christ must suffer, if Christ must suffer you and I. Must suffer. Amen. You must. None of us here is greater than our Master, I said. None of us here is greater than our Master. If Christ suffered, you will and must suffer. I have suffered to be here, and I am still suffering. There are many aspects of suffering I don't have. To be in the presence to be. Crucified before you know that I am suffering. Not all the disciples were crucified, Some died normal deaths. But there is a suffering that no one can escape from. No matter who you are, you will suffer because of Christ and because of what you believe. Amen, it says. Doubtless Philippians 38. I count all things but. Loss for the Excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord. For whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but down that. I may win. Christ posted. I have suffered and the way he suffered was he suffered by losing certain things, you see, and we don't believe in losing because we have dominion, prosperity, and prosperity means you are getting bigger and getting more things. So we don't believe in losing anything. But if we are to agree to lose, you have to lose. I said you have to lose, but instead of losing we are stealing. And that is why you can hardly even, you can't even know that somebody will suffer for God. Remember, he will more likely steal than to lose. Am I right or wrong? The average pastor today will steal. Yes, the average pastor will steal rather than lose. Let's say you are being paid and you are not being paid well, the average pastor will still learn to suffer loss. That's why there's no power in our preaching. One day I saw somebody preaching my message. I said, look, the the reason why when you preach my message doesn't change people. There's no power. You haven't sacrificed. You see what I'm talking about history. I'm talking the real experience. It's not just a theory. There are some messages. You can preach them, but it has no power to change because you you are not a practical example of it. You're not a good example of it. There's no power in your message. Suffering is part of Christianity. For you brethren, became 1st Thessalonians 214, became followers of the churches of God, which in Judea are in Christ Jesus. For you have also suffered like things of your countrymen, even as they have of the Jews. You have suffered from your fellow citizens. Suffering can come from fellow Christians, fellow Ghanaians. It can also come from other nationalities. Now notice this one first. Peter 221. It says for even here unto where you called, huh? Because Christ also started for us, leaving us an example that you should follow his steps. I mean, it's getting clearer, I said. It's getting clearer, OK, it says here. Until were you called, you were. Called to this to suffer for Christ, because Christ died leaving us an example. That we should follow. In his steps, the steps of suffering, of losing, we are supposed to follow it, I'm telling you. I am telling you there is nobody look when you read the ministers who have had have changed lives of people. Oh, there's no one that had no staff. Read Kenneth Hagin when he was preaching faith and he was called out there no money, his wife no money. When his wife wrote one book called The Price Is Not Greater than His Grace, how she had to borrow dresses. When she's going for a convection Bureau address from this child is they live in containers and they use newspapers to close the gaps. Because of the winter, the cold and they were suffering and how they carried their children from chest to chest for years. They never had anywhere to stay. When they invite you here you go in preach, then you. Drive all the way here. And you preach there, then you drive here. For years the children were in the back of the car and they teach them at home school. You'll be surprised that Kenneth Hagin junior did not want to be a pastor. He didn't want to be in the ministry. He had a terrible accident one day and the Lord spoke to him and he decided to come to the ministry. Would anybody? Who has changed the? Life of of people through ministry the power to change people's lives is the power of the cross, I tell and. Christ has called you to suffer. And you see us when we are employed in the church. We don't want to suffer anything at all. And so we are forming routes and what do you call it? Unions. And it's like we look, go sit down. The guy is enjoying his dog is getting. I heard someone complaining about the dog of the pastor, the senior pastor, the senior. Pastor's dog. We are spending more money on the dog than on the assistant pastors in the church. This pastener person is getting this money and what am I getting? And look at my house and look at his house and look at my this and look at that dad. And we don't go sit down anymore and this and that because we, we don't believe in losing anything or suffering or experiencing any kind of hardship. The reason, one of the reason why I've had a lot of lay people that is pastors I don't pay is because of this. Until I can see that the reason why you really want to come full time is because you want to suffer loss for Christ. Before I will employ you, before I will employ you. Oh yeah, because you employ them and they start to say so. So what? What about I remember 1 What am I better do? What do I get? A car? Another one guy who was a butcher and he was some beginning to complain about a car. And so on. And I was saying to myself that when? You were a butcher. For how many years you were a butcher, Kathy Meat? Did they give you a car there? But when you come to the church, it's like you must not suffer loss at all. Once my first this person has a car, he must also. Have a car if we sell. His car we can buy 10 cars for all of. Us. It sounds very simple. It sounds very simple, but I tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that you see, if you have a certain mind, you will understand where you have come to work. You are not working in a bank, you are not working. And it's because we don't have these minds. That is why we we are even. We are not. Supposed to be full time. Oh yeah, and you see some of the senior pastors raping the church. It's like once I'm a pastor, I believe that the man. Of. God must be well taken care of. I believe the man of God and the man of God must have this and must have that and must have that and must have that. And because you believe. In that so much, you see, you don't have power and you don't have the power to lead your church and to change your church. I'm telling you, you can't, and there's no. Power look at our churches look, if you don't think Ghana will become Liberia, I'm warning you. ELWA Radio elwa we all used to listen to the Liberian radio. It means eternal love winning Africa. Eternal love winning Africa. Radio Elwa, we used to tune in. Liberia was the most Christianized nation. I I once, I never heard of Jimmy Swaggart coming to Africa, but I saw a crusade when I was looking through his memoirs or his pictures and so on. I saw he had had crusades in Liberia. I don't saw Liberians here. Yeah, good. Timmy Swaggart, Billy Graham and people have gone there. And we used, I used to tune my radio to hear the Greyhound preaching shortwave today. Where is it? Everybody in the church, Charles Stella, I think, is he a Deacon? He's a Deacon in the Baptist, whatever Baptist Church. These are people who are wanted for war crimes, genocide and what have you. These are Baptist deacons ashes Aquarius test the other guy Johnson, he was also what was he also a. Deacon. Where are my brothers from? Buliburam. Was he a Deacon or what was he? You don't know. Evangelist. He was an evangelist. 1 is a Baptist, 1 is a Deacon, 1 is an evangelist, 1 is whatever. And you see, if we would suffer loss, a church will be very, very different. But nobody will give you, nobody will lose any. I will not. Lose. You will not lose, so we will fight. That is the source of all that we have, which is so different. Oh, it's a different church, but the Scripture is considered here unto when you called. Thank you officer. I was asking some people in my office and what is your calling? This one said my calling is to teach. This one said my colleague is to pastor. This one said my colleague. I said you are. You are rude, your calling. Is to suffer. What's your calling? It's a good message even if you are not, and it's a good message from the Bible. Is it prosperity, people? We don't like such messages at all. From here unto hey, that means unto here, unto here, here unto means unto here. Were you called? Then first Peter 318 it says. For Christ has also suffered words for sins that just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit. Jesus Christ suffered so that he might bring us to God. Amen. Have you wondered why we are not bringing people to God? Have you wondered why we are not bringing people to God? We are writing names in the book, but we are not bringing people to God. I'm telling you, look, I'll tell you something, eh? The best place if you want to make. Money is not in the church, at least go look. I met a millionaire. He said he was a pastor, he was a missioner in Philippines. He started churches. The churches are still there. And he said that the Lord forced him to go into business and he became a millionaire. And he said he has given millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars. He told, he told, he took us to his house, a house on a hill, beautiful house in millionaire. Only millionaires live there. And he said I have given millions to the ministry. He said my the worth, the cost of my house. I have given many times more of that money to the church. Maybe God hasn't called you to be in the church to use the church for getting money. Amen. Oh, I'm serious. You'll be better off doing business and then because you have been in the ministry before, you give a lot if your business works and if it doesn't work, you continue to. Suffer in it, that is. Better not to be in the ministry or force yourself to be in the ministry when God has not called you to be in the ministry. I beg you, I beg you. You see in the Tabernacle, when you enter the brazen altar, is there. You come to sacrifice, you go in to the holy place, the Candlestick is there, the things in the oldest place are brass, as we are going in, is wood covered by gold. But by the time you get to the inner place is gold, pure gold. It's more costly as to go higher in the ministry and it's also more dangerous because what you can do in the holy place and in the other place that you wouldn't die when you go to this. Place to do something. Before you realize you are dying. Yeah. And that is why the priests were all wearing bells, so that if they do something wrong, then they die. They will hear the bell will stop ringing, and then they pull them with the rope out of that place. What you can do outside that will not kill you. You do it in the church, it can kill you. You do it in the holy place, it can kill you. You do it in the ministry, it can kill you and will kill you. So if you want to stay around. Look at it carefully. The ministry is not a place. Look. If you think you are coming to this conference to hear some clever tricks. On how to move cleverly through the ministry by taking certain strategic decisions and so on, You must understand that the ministry is a spiritual thing. The church is a spiritual thing, operate by spiritual principles. It's not an all boys association, it's not a club. It's the it's the ministry of God. Regina, he speaks a lot about sacrifice. The other day I was listening. I was Christ surprised someone the Lord told him you cannot earn a salary. You must not live off a salary, only put aside whenever, no salary, he said. To how he became poor. And the Lord told him that. That is what he has to do. Nobody who you see advancing. In the ministry or? Going higher and higher in the call of God has done that without putting things down. You have to pay the price, and God will make you pay the price first. Peter 41. It says for as much then as Christ has suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise I'm yourself likewise. In other words, prepare yourself in the same way I'm yourself likewise with the same mind. For he that has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin. Are you seeing that when you suffer in the flesh, you stop sinning? And the reason why the Church has lost the power to stop city is because the Church does not suffer at all. We do not suffer in the flesh. We do not accept sufferings. We do not accept anything that brings pain or anything that is not dominion and success and prosperity. And that is why we have not seen from steel. Oh yes. Oh yes, I tell you. Listen. God will use you greatly if you understand what I'm saying. God will use you to change people. People don't trust fastest. Isn't it true? People don't trust fastest. We are not trusted anymore. Nobody believes us anymore. We are seen as clone men. We are seen as swingless. We are seen as thieves. We are seen as manipulators of poor people to get their Queens and their pennies and enrich ourselves. We are seen as liars. We are not respected by we are not respected by anybody. It's one of the lowest jobs to have to be a pastor and it is a we. We are the ones we have to blame ourselves. All of us try and understand, oh, this is the gospel of Jesus Christ. Hallelujah, are you there? Wonderful. This message continues on the next track. Keep listening.